Thread: Israeli PM summons US ambassador amid UN vote row

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Since a larger percentage of the region was theirs from the start.

If you say so.....

Doesn't matter, Yahweh gave them all the land.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Of course. As always.
Hey, this entire thread is antisemitic, isn't it?
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I don't believe so MN. But I find the anti semetic line is used like mysogenist, islamophobe, homophobe, climate denyer and many more usually ending in "ist" by the politically correct lobby to stifle free speech or a dissenting view regardless of the validity of the argument.
To clarify my political position, I am a far right socialist.

Yeah, I was being sarcastic.
However, I disagree with you that the "antisemite" label is thrown around by the PC brigade. On the contrary, it's the right wingnut Israel supporters who have no comeback to criticism of Israel that bandy the term around. It once had weight since antisemitism was supposed to be as despicable as racism. The word then gained a power of it's own and became a description for something perceived to be worse than racism. But it is hackneyed now, and people see through it's disingenuous over-use.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Maanaam

No, not masterly, just the typical spoilt brat manipulative woman posturing.

Eh? How did women get brought into this??????

The allusion is to the fact that Israel acts like a manipulative woman. Devious, ruthless, manipulative, but screams bloody murder at the slightest perceived affront.
And acts like a spoiled brat.

Ooo'hh- feel the Butt hurt.

UN vote tops Wiesenthal list of top 10 antisemitic, anti-Israel cases in 2016

The US abstention from a reccent vote against Israeli settlements at the UN Security Council topped the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s annual list released Tuesday of the 10 worst outbreaks of Jew-hatred and anti-Israel incidents.

The Jewish human rights organization ranked the Obama administration’s move as the top case, charging that it erased Jewish history.

“The most stunning 2016 UN attack on Israel was facilitated by President [Barack] Obama when the US abstained on a UN Security Council resolution condemning Israel for settlement construction. It reversed decades-long US policy of vetoing such diplomatic moves against the Jewish State,” wrote the center.

The organization added: “It also urges UN members ‘to distinguish, in their relevant dealings, between the territory of the State of Israel and the territories occupied since 1967,’ effectively endorsing BDS.”

UK Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn along with former British politician Baroness Jenny Tonge ranked second.

According to the ranking, “antisemitism in the [Labour] party has greatly escalated. Corbyn, who previously called Hamas and Hezbollah his ‘friends,’ also promoted his strategy adviser Seumas Milne, a Hamas proponent.”

France earned the third spot for “singling out Israel. Amid a backdrop of devastating and murderous Islamist terrorist attacks, continued targeting of French Jewry and reports of the refusal of some Muslim police officers to guard synagogues, the French government became the first member of the European Union to implement the requirement of labels on all Israeli goods produced beyond the Jewish state’s 1967 borders.”
UN vote tops Wiesenthal list of top 10 antisemitic, anti-Israel cases in 2016 - Diaspora - Jerusalem Post


Failed attempts to erase Palestinian history anyone? Illegally and brutally occupying and colonising someone else's land anyone? Yep, it's all anti-Semitism innit. Pass the KY.

The World and global community doesn't buy your bullshit, Israel. Got the hint yet?

NZ isnt going to be worried with losing trade to Israel they only export between 20 and 30 million NZD of goods to Israel per year they do far more trade with Arab countries.

Trade benefits for NZ in UN resolution - expert | Radio New Zealand News

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I am a far right socialist.

As a far left fascist I can't agree with your views.

^^ I doubt any of the Security Council members are-

Five permanent members: China, France, Russian Federation, the United Kingdom, and the United States,

and ten non-permanent members elected for two-year terms by the General Assembly (with end of term date):
Angola (2016)
Egypt (2017)
Japan (2017)
Malaysia (2016)
New Zealand (2016)
Senegal (2017)
Spain (2016)
Ukraine (2017)
Uruguay (2017)
Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of) (2016)
Members of the United Nations Security Council


It is Israel that should be more concerned about doing trade with them.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

...a manipulative woman. Devious, ruthless, manipulative, but screams bloody murder at the slightest perceived affront.
And acts like a spoiled brat.

Talking from experience, I gather.
I hope you have better luck next time.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

If you say so.....

Should one expect any form of knowledge of historic fact from a site established 21 years ago?

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Maanaam

...a manipulative woman. Devious, ruthless, manipulative, but screams bloody murder at the slightest perceived affront.
And acts like a spoiled brat.

Talking from experience, I gather.
I hope you have better luck next time.

And once again, so very very wrong.


How do you not let your low self esteem show? You hide it so well.

Originally Posted by sabang

UN vote tops Wiesenthal list of top 10 antisemitic, anti-Israel cases in 2016

As predicted.

It's truly incredible how outraged they get when they know full well that they're committing all sorts of crimes.

What gets me about the whole Palestine/Israel thing is that both Palestinians and Jews are both descended from the same ancestral groups living in Palestine 2000 years ago.

Yes, to a large extent- contrary to popular myth, most Jews were not exiled from Palastina by the Romans after the Jewish Revolt- most remained, and most of them in turn became assimilated with the indigenous people (along with the Phoenicians, Philistines etc). Jews and Palestinians are closely related- in fact there is every chance a Mizrahi or Sephardi Jew is considerably more closely related to a Palestinian than to a blonde haired Ashkenazi Jew from Sth Africa.

Doesn't seem to help them get along though.

TYPOS I READ OF SEMETIC
KINDLY PASS THE EMETIC
WHATSOEVER VIEWS YOU CHOOSE
HOW ODD OF GOD TO PICK THE JEWS
HER CHOICES QUITE ECLECTIC

Originally Posted by david44

TYPOS I READ OF SEMETIC

Now you're being anti-semantic.

Originally Posted by sabang

Yes, to a large extent- contrary to popular myth, most Jews were not exiled from Palastina by the Romans after the Jewish Revolt- most remained, and most of them in turn became assimilated with the indigenous people (along with the Phoenicians, Philistines etc). Jews and Palestinians are closely related- in fact there is every chance a Mizrahi or Sephardi Jew is considerably more closely related to a Palestinian than to a blonde haired Ashkenazi Jew from...

Ukraine...
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articl...shkenazi-Jews/

I see they've been working hard on Wikifakia to undermine this...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar...hazar_theories

...a simple DNA test will clear it up in no time.
MtDNA haplogroup projects - ISOGG Wiki

They can't have their cake and eat it... be a religion and an ethnicity at the same time; be "European" in terms of football and Eurovision song contest, and "Semitic"... They've been getting away with this for way too long.

Stating the obvious I guess, but:-

Israeli hysteria over UN vote is solidifying country’s new status, as a rogue state

President Obama’s decision to allow passage of a UN Security Council resolution condemning Israeli settlements as illegal has done more to change the shape of the conflict than any other action in the last ten years, even than Israel’s massacres in Gaza. He has nudged Israel, and the media, toward recognition of the country’s new status, as a rogue state; he has split the Israel lobby right down the middle, or down the side anyway; and he has given huge impetus to the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS).

That is why Israeli leaders are going crazy this weekend, flinging accusations against the president on the cable networks and national news too. Because what Obama did is so meaningful.

Israel’s supporters long claimed that Israel only makes progress if you embrace it and tell Israel you love it. (Dennis Ross says this all the time.) Obama heeded that advice for years and got nothing. Now he has made one gesture against Israel, and the progress in a few days is amazing.

The media are talking about settlements as never before. Every time I turn on National Public Radio, I hear a story about the settlements. It is about time our country talked about the occupation, as it approaches its jubilee year. And any reasonable person hearing this discussion accepts the simple truth of the U.N. resolution: Israel should not have transferred its population into territories conquered by war. It has destroyed the two-state solution by colonizing the 22 percent of the original territory that the two-state solution treated as Palestinian

....But will Trump reverse Obama’s actions re settlements? I don’t know. His tweets have actually been careful on this subject; suggesting that he might take Obama’s side against the spoiled child of Israel. Whatever Trump does, the lobby will continue to fragment. That is the larger process at work, and it is good news for Americans and Israelis and Palestinians. .

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Originally Posted by ENT

What gets me about the whole Palestine/Israel thing is that both Palestinians and Jews are both descended from the same ancestral groups living in Palestine 2000 years ago.

...it's almost like Man U and Man City, innit?

not the first time jews killed their own tribes, did it all the time back in the good old days 2500 years ago when they had 2 kingdoms and would rage battle one against the others

Originally Posted by sabang

Stating the obvious I guess, but:-

Israeli hysteria over UN vote is solidifying country’s new status, as a rogue state

[I]President Obama’s decision to allow passage of a UN Security Council resolution condemning Israeli settlements as illegal has done more to change the shape of the conflict than any other action in the last ten years, even than Israel’s massacres in Gaza. He has nudged Israel, and the media, toward recognition of the country’s new status, as a rogue state; he has split the Israel lobby right down the middle, or down the side anyway; and he has given huge impetus to the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS).

It's that Nobel Prize magic, working again, innit? I wonder how the 10% of Russian Jews might influence Israel looking towards Russia for support in the region? There are a noticeable number of military projects together, as well as the oil relationship.
I wonder what that will do to America's influence in the Middle East? Or maybe America is becoming more concerned about its influence in the Far East now? After all... that's where all the money is!

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Of course. As always.
Hey, this entire thread is antisemitic, isn't it?

I don't believe so MN. But I find the anti semetic line is used like mysogenist, islamophobe, homophobe, climate denyer and many more usually ending in "ist" by the politically correct lobby to stifle free speech or a dissenting view regardless of the validity of the argument.

Originally Posted by sabang

UN vote tops Wiesenthal list of top 10 antisemitic, anti-Israel cases in 2016?

Essentially, Israel has dined off of having this special word for a special kind of "racism" that is just for them, and nobody else. It's a convenient catch-all cryptonym for evil to throw at anything remotely unenthusiastic about them. The trouble is, that "racism" doesn't exist, because "race" doesn't exist; and "anti-<chosen-one>-ism" doesn't exist... it's all about ethnocentrism colliding with other ethnocentrisms... always was.
The actual existence of the term "anti-semitism" is effectively discriminatory to every "gentile" on the planet... so on the Dreyfus tip... J'accuse THEM of innate "racism" towards everyone else.

Originally Posted by Mrgolofkin

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I am a far right socialist.

As a far left fascist I can't agree with your views.

All lefties are fascist - by definition

Originally Posted by sabang

Obama ...... he has made one gesture against Israel

Even the person who wrote this has fallen for the Israeli hoodwink.

Is it "a gesture against" a criminal if an entity declares that criminal to be a criminal, or is it merely stating the obvious? Should a rapist cry "unfair" that a cop alleges rape? Does a murderer have the right to be angry at people who call him a murderer?
If the hat fits...
You made your bed, Israel, now lie in it and stop complaining that there's a pea under the mattress.