Thread: Aleppo battle: UN says hundreds of men and boys 'missing'

Hundreds of men and boys appear to have gone missing after crossing from rebel-held areas of Aleppo into government territory, UN officials say.

Forces led by Syria's government have seized at least 75% of eastern parts of the city from rebels in recent weeks.

Tens of thousands of civilians have fled those districts, with more than 8,000 leaving during a humanitarian pause on Thursday.
Rebels were also reportedly stopping people from leaving, the UN said.

At a briefing in Geneva, Rupert Colville, the spokesman for the UN High Commissioner on Human Rights, said up to 100,000 people were trapped in "ever-shrinking" areas of eastern Aleppo.

Reports differ on how many people remain and how many have fled eastern Aleppo, but Mr Colville said the UN had gathered evidence that "hundreds" of men may have disappeared after leaving for government-held areas.

"Given the terrible record of arbitrary detention, torture and disappearances, we are of course deeply concerned," he said, referring to the Syrian government.On Thursday, Russia, an ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, said fighting was suspended to allow civilians to leave.
By Friday morning, more than 8,000 people - including 3,000 children - had left, Russia's military said.

The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said ground forces continued their offensive, and that rocket attacks and air raids were launched overnight.
"Helicopters, warplanes and rocket bombardment like every day," one Turkey-based official with the Jabha al-Shamiya rebel group told Reuters. "Nothing has changed."

The civilian rescue group known as the White Helmets said 46 civilians were killed and another 230 injured on Thursday in east Aleppo. Three barrel bombs carrying chlorine gas were dropped, it added.
The past two days have seen some of the heaviest civilian casualties in the past fortnight in east Aleppo.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38260388

Originally Posted by ENT

Aleppo battle: UN says hundreds of men and boys 'missing'

I think the UN might find them in Germany.

What's up with the stealth font colour Ent?

Originally Posted by Looper

Aleppo battle: UN says hundreds of men and boys 'missing'

I'd imagine the Mossad CIA will have realized that location is up, The Turks,Kurds,lebs done a runner and local conscripts will be minced and turned into dog food for Australia or Pies in the third world

Originally Posted by Looper

Originally Posted by ENT

Aleppo battle: UN says hundreds of men and boys 'missing'

I think the UN might find them in Germany.

What's up with the stealth font colour Ent?

No idea. Black on blue or black on white, or white on blue is the best I can get posting any cut'n'paste articles. excerpts etc on teakdoor recently.

Any ideas as to how to sort that out?

Aleppo battle: UN says hundreds of men and boys 'missing'

Yes here they are





Tomorrows no shit sherlock headline:

Aleppo battle: UN says money and smart phones 'missing'

Originally Posted by ENT

No idea. Black on blue or black on white, or white on blue is the best I can get posting any cut'n'paste articles. excerpts etc on teakdoor recently.

Any ideas as to how to sort that out?

Dunno. Never have any issues with CP using FF. Just CP into notepad first if I ever do.

My thoughts exactly that they are in Europe. Angela Merkel conscripted them into her army offering free money and care for life. In Merkels army young Syrian conscripts fight for "Human Rights "

These refugees seem like Cowards to me- and I suspect they are mainly Islamic militants fleeing their losing cause- leaving their women and children behind.

They receive no sympathy from me, and I resent what taxpayers money we waste on them.

Why does Europe and the rest of the world continue to take in muslim immigrants? Just a few examples why they shouldn't.

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com

^
You need to be more critical of the sources you use, you seem quite intelligent judging by your posting history.

By comparison, it doesn't surprise that ignorant nonsense such as "Angela Merkel conscripted them into her army offering free money and care for life." gets posted, considering the source.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

There is no such thing as a good source

What utter crap! All that means is that you have no discriminatory ability. That's a failing on your part and by no means universal.

Ok, give me five examples of what you think are good sources and why DrBob.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Ok, give me five examples of what you think are good sources and why DrBob.

Seriously? I find it really difficult to believe that you can't do this yourself.

I) Multiple witnesses whose accounts can be verified by other independent witnesses. Example: accounts of executions in Palmyra, most regular news

2) Photographic or video evidence which can be verified as having been taken at the time and place specified and has been tested to verify that it shows no sign of fraud. Example: Jeff Widener and Tank Man.

3) Accounts whose testimony can be verified by technological means. Examples, tales of anti-Rohingya pogroms which were later verified by google earth data showing the pattern of destruction by burning of Rohingya villages over a period of time.

4) Testimony which can be verified by physical evidence, example the mass-graves of Kashmir

5) Verifiable evidence provided which could only possibly be provided by somebody with direct access to that evidence. e.g. wikileaks, watergate

6) Accounts provided by the person who did it and who can provide evidence for it! Example

"I did it and the heads are in my fridge". Jeffrey Dahmer

and so on and on and on...

I dont have a horse in this race but I must say re the above.
WTF???
How many bottles of whiskey have you drunk?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Ok, give me five examples of what you think are good sources and why DrBob.

Seriously? I find it really difficult to believe that you can't do this yourself.

I) Multiple witnesses whose accounts can be verified by other independent witnesses. Example: accounts of executions in Palmyra, most regular news

2) Photographic or video evidence which can be verified as having been taken at the time and place specified and has been tested to verify that it shows no sign of fraud. Example: Jeff Widener and Tank Man.

3) Accounts whose testimony can be verified by technological means. Examples, tales of anti-Rohingya pogroms which were later verified by google earth data showing the pattern of destruction by burning of Rohingya villages over a period of time.

4) Testimony which can be verified by physical evidence, example the mass-graves of Kashmir

5) Verifiable evidence provided which could only possibly be provided by somebody with direct access to that evidence. e.g. wikileaks, watergate

6) Accounts provided by the person who did it and who can provide evidence for it! Example

"I did it and the heads are in my fridge". Jeffrey Dahmer

and so on and on and on...

Missed the mark on sources DrBob. Sources as in news sources, not actual video fact. There are no good news sources.

The battle for Aleppo has been won by the Syrian government. The fighting has stopped.

Great fun reading the bias reports in the news about it -
The rebels - the resistance vs the regime, etc

There has been a ceasefire, and the fighters allowed to leave - so they can fight it out again and destroy another area of the city or country ..

Officials from several rebel groups told AFP it had been agreed to allow civilians and fighters to leave Aleppo for opposition-held territory to the west of the city.

“The first stage will be the evacuation of civilians and wounded, within hours, and afterwards fighters will leave with their light weapons.”

Guns fall silent in Aleppo as deal lets civilians, rebels exit but atrocity reports prompt U.S. to demand observers | The Japan Times

The rebels are islamic nutters working for Daesh,

and the US is negotiating for them ? hello earth ?

about time Trump come for the cleanup of that whole ME mess

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

The rebels are islamic nutters working for Daesh,

Correct. Good to hear that those vicious scumbags have been defeated. If Assad has any sense he'll have every single captured "rebel" executed.

I think the UN should stop taking it's 'facts' from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Meanwhile, while you fuckwits talk about who's got the biggest tits, in Aleppo.

Children trapped in building under attack in Aleppo, doctor tells UN
Spokesman describes ‘complete meltdown of humanity’ as troops loyal to Syrian president close in on last opposition-held areas.


Children are reportedly trapped inside a building under attack in besieged Aleppo, the UN’s children agency has said, amid reports that forces loyal to the regime of Bashar al-Assad are carrying out extrajudicial killings in areas of the city recently reclaimed from the Syrian opposition.

“According to alarming reports from a doctor in the city, many children, possibly more than 100, unaccompanied or separated from their families, are trapped in a building, under heavy attack in east Aleppo,” Unicef said in a statement. “We urge all parties to the conflict to allow the safe and immediate evacuation of all children.”


The UN’s human rights office said earlier there were reliable accounts that pro-Syrian regime forces have been entering homes in the last remaining rebel strongholds in eastern Aleppo and killing civilians on the spot.

Multiple sources told the UN that 82 civilians had been killed across four different neighbourhoods. “The reports we had are of people being shot in the street trying to flee and shot in their homes,” Rupert Colville, a UN spokesman, said. “There could be many more.”

Unverified accounts of extrajudicial killings by forces loyal to Assad, as well as mass detentions and arrests, have surfaced in recent days. In one image circulated by a pro-government parliamentarian, dozens of Syrian men and boys from east Aleppo stand in a detention camp in front of Syrian army soldiers.

The Turkish foreign ministry said it was horrified and outraged by what it described as a massacre of civilians, in serious breach of international law.

“We’re seeing the most cruel form of savagery in Aleppo, and the regime and its supporters are responsible for this,” foreign minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu said, adding that his country was was negotiating with Russia to implement a ceasefire. “The wounded are not being let out and people are dying of starvation,” he told a news conference in Ankara.
Meanwhile, the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, said Moscow was fed up of calls from the US to halt the fighting. “We are tired of hearing this whining from our American colleagues in the current administration,” he told journalists. The US was urging Russia to halt military action while doing nothing to separate moderate rebels from “terrorists” in Aleppo, he added.

Voices from Aleppo: the situation is apocalyptic – video report
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said there were corpses abandoned in the streets with residents too terrified by the shelling to bury them. Real massacres were taking place in the city, the war monitor said. Jens Laerke, a UN spokesman, said it looked like there had been a “complete meltdown of humanity” in the city.

The Red Cross has urgently appealed for civilians in east Aleppo to be protected “before it is too late”, adding that it was ready to help with evacuations if an agreement could be reached as Assad’s forces closed in on remaining opposition enclaves.

“We need to act now,” said Pawel Krzysiek, the head of communications at the international committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), who is in Aleppo. “We need to depoliticise the process of protecting civilians. We need to put their lives first. And we need to do it now before it is not too late.”


Tens of thousands of civilians remain trapped in a shrinking patch of opposition territory in east Aleppo, weeks into an offensive led by Assad’s military and Iranian-backed militias, and supported by Russian airpower, that has brought them within reach of a key victory in the war.

People in east Aleppo, who have issued distress calls and appeals to the international community to rescue them from retribution, continued to post farewell messages overnight and into Tuesday morning, predicting they would either die by the ongoing bombardment or be tortured and killed if they surrendered.

“Please just tell our stories to the world, please let my son be proud of his father,” said one resident of east Aleppo in a text message.

A doctor described the situation as “beyond a tragedy”, with corpses in the street and people attempting to flee to government-held areas as a result of hunger and cold.

“We are besieged from all sides and death is coming from the air,” he said. “Remember that there was once a city called Aleppo that the world erased from the camp and from history. This is a farewell message [from a doctor] whose fate along with that of his companions is death or arrest at any moment.”

One resident said the airstrikes had subsided by Tuesday morning due to lower visibility and rain, offering a brief respite to civilians who were still on the move and seeking shelter in the rebel districts. Some of those attempting to find shelter away from the frontlines were carrying blood and IV drips as they marched through rebel-held districts, another resident said.

The Syrian army and its allies are in the “last moments before declaring victory” in Aleppo, a Syrian military source told Reuters, after rebel defences collapsed on Monday, leaving insurgents in a tiny, heavily bombarded pocket of ground.

The bombardment of rebel areas of the city continued nonstop on Monday during the day in what residents called a “doomsday” scenario.

“The battle in eastern Aleppo should end quickly. They [rebels] don’t have much time. They either have to surrender or die,” Lieut Gen Zaid al-Saleh, the head of the government’s Aleppo security committee, told reporters in the recaptured Sheikh Saeed district of the city.

The ICRC said: “Thousands of civilians’ lives are in danger as frontlines close in around them in eastern Aleppo. As the battle reaches new peaks and the area is plunged into chaos, thousands with no part in the violence have literally nowhere safe to run.

“A deepening humanitarian catastrophe and further loss of life can be averted only if the basic rules of warfare – and of humanity – are applied.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-aleppo-syria
It's a complete tragic clusterfuck and ANYONE involved should be ashamed. There's no good or right side here but in my mind anyone backing the opposition/rebel forces is in the wrong.
It's shocking what happens to people given the right set of circumstances. Germans Serbs, Japanese, Cambodians. Where does the hate come from.

The rebels occupy less than one third of Aleppo, and it is shrinking weekly. This is war- and it isn't nice. The IS 'fighters' are mostly foreign jihadi's anyway. Either they get out- or they will be eliminated, with all of the human tragedy that entails.