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    Chinese farmers take over former white-owned farms in Zimbabwe to cash in on tobacco

    Chinese farmers have taken over formerly white-owned farms for the first time, investing millions of pounds into tobacco production.

    Farms that were badly managed for nearly 20 years, after Robert Mugabe’s mass seizure of white-owned land, are now being worked again in the hope of reaping a potentially huge reward.


    At least five farms have attracted Chinese investment in Mashonaland Central, a region to the north-west of Harare, that was traditionally one of the country’s best tobacco-producing areas.


    Safe in the knowledge that Mr Mugabe’s policy of strengthening ties with China will offer a degree of protection, they have poured money into machinery and are taking advice from international experts.



    China has become the largest investor in Zimbabwe, the economy of which is still reeling from the land seizures of 2000 and hyperinflation, has taken a nosedive once again.



    Unemployment is running at about 90 per cent and the regime is so short of money that it cannot pay teachers or civil servants.


    The dire economic conditions have prompted rare protests against Mr Mugabe’s regime by a coalition of opposition parties.


    Yesterday, a heavy police presence in Zimbabwe’s capital Harare stopped a planned mass demonstration, as activists claimed police used live ammunition to disperse small protests.

    While Zimbabwe’s land reform process has empowered around 60,000 small-scale black tobacco farmers, who grow lower grades of tobacco, many of the bigger farms distributed among Mr Mugabe’s cronies have not fared so well.


    Farms just north of Harare lie fallow amid broken fences, fields scorched by fires and scarce livestock. There are few surviving indigenous trees as many were felled by new farmers who could not afford coal to cure their tobacco.


    A generation of evicted white farmers have moved abroad or live hand-to-mouth, waiting for promised compensation.


    One farm worker in Mvurwi, about 60 miles north of Harare, said there were now plenty of jobs in the district after years of difficulties following the departure of the white landowners. “The Chinese are spending money,” he said.


    Experts believe that the five Chinese-run farms will, despite their limited experience, grow and cure about 1,500 acres of tobacco this year. They said the new infrastructure including equipment manufactured by US company, Valley Irrigation, must have cost at least £7 million.


    An insider in the tobacco industry said the Chinese company would be paying a hefty rental for the land they are now using to the “political” men who now own the farms.


    “The Chinese will pay a percentage of the income from the tobacco as rent,” he said. “Some of that rental should be shared with the white farmers who left their homes with nothing and received no compensation from the government, but they probably don’t know their old farms are now about to start making money again.”



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    sounds like local cannot farm but whites and chinese can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowman View Post
    sounds like local cannot farm but whites and chinese can
    No shit sherlock.

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    One hopes that a coon virus in the chink host will see off both.

    Won't the world be such a nice place without them?

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    Like I said: Locusts.

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    Many of them have ended up in Australia, the White Farmer and the Chinese!

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    Filter tips needed for Infilter Asian

    Wonderful idle locals second class whitey and chinese filling the top slot reminds me of somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Filter tips needed for Infilter Asian

    Wonderful idle locals second class whitey and chinese filling the top slot reminds me of somewhere
    So living there somewhere in Thailand, makes you second class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowman View Post
    sounds like local cannot farm but whites and chinese can
    Too much like work; apparently they're no different there than the ones we have in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    One hopes that a coon virus in the chink host will see off both.

    Won't the world be such a nice place without them?
    Can we find a way for this virus to spread to Israel too?

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    They're probably packing the crates with every endangered species they can find, too.

    So they can make another fucking potion that they think grows their tiny dicks a millimetre.
    Last edited by harrybarracuda; 28-09-2016 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    One hopes that a coon virus in the chink host will see off both.

    Won't the world be such a nice place without them?
    Can we find a way for this virus to spread to Israel too?
    Asians, Blacks, Jews... You must be one of those equal opportunity racists.

    No discrimination in who you illogically hate eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
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    sounds like local cannot farm but whites and chinese can
    Too much like work; apparently they're no different there than the ones we have in the US.
    No different as they originated from the same genetic pool, only the living conditions are different, Rhodesia had a handful of white farmers in the 70's & 80's who produced so much food that it was exported to the rest of Africa and Europe.
    Then the Black government took the successful white run farms and gave them to blacks. The exact same Farms became dust bowls under black ineptitude.
    Britain loved it, now they could supply them with aid.
    Don't forget Christmas is upon us and the BBC want you to give money to Children in Need.
    The Blacks in Zim are skinny, unlike the fat welfare fed cousins back in Obama's land.

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    Err, we all descend from the same genetic-pool.

    As disappointing a reality as that may be in light of some comments on this forum.

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    Wait until the Zim's start working for the Chinese. They will wish their dear leader did not kick out the white farmers.

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    This is the truth, when they see how the Chinese treat them, they will really miss those honky imperialists, and that burgeoning economy of the 80s so full with promise, now cruelly snatched away by a hideous grasping old goblin king.

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    One hopes that a coon virus in the chink host will see off both.

    Won't the world be such a nice place without them?
    Can we find a way for this virus to spread to Israel too?
    Asians, Blacks, Jews... You must be one of those equal opportunity racists.

    No discrimination in who you illogically hate eh.
    Nobody hates fit ethnic flirtatious women, just the tedious mendacious grasping hideous majority.

    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Err, we all descend from the same genetic-pool.

    As disappointing a reality as that may be in light of some comments on this forum.
    Well, that's true if you go further up the evolutionary tree, and include all primates, but there's definite evidence of inter-species admixture underlying the different "races" - neanderthal for "white" and denisovan for "yellow" etc... it's a bit weasal-wordish to use the phrase "genetic pool" without really defining what you mean - a bit pseudo-scientific - very "Grauniad"...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuRY1skaH4M

    we are all figments of our own imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
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    sounds like local cannot farm but whites and chinese can
    Too much like work; apparently they're no different there than the ones we have in the US.
    No different as they originated from the same genetic pool, only the living conditions are different, Rhodesia had a handful of white farmers in the 70's & 80's who produced so much food that it was exported to the rest of Africa and Europe.
    Then the Black government took the successful white run farms and gave them to blacks. The exact same Farms became dust bowls under black ineptitude.
    Britain loved it, now they could supply them with aid.
    Don't forget Christmas is upon us and the BBC want you to give money to Children in Need.
    The Blacks in Zim are skinny, unlike the fat welfare fed cousins back in Obama's land.
    Yep, Zim was formerly alluded to as the "bread basket of Africa".

    After Mugabe rewarded his militia henchmen for brutalizing his way to power by seizing and awarding them the formerly white-run farms, it became merely the fucking "basket case" of Africa.
    Nice one, Robert. *golf clap*

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    Zim was formerly alluded to as the "bread basket of Africa".
    Same same Sudan back in the day.

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    From Basket to lice bowl in a generation, thanks Mugabe

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    Not really sure what's wrong with Africans. On an individual level they can be perfectly normal, intelligent people, no different to any other humans. But put them in a group and they'll be naked, dancing around a fire before you've had a chance to crack open your next beer.

    Not limited to Africans though. The Irish for instance very much display the same traits. Still pretty tribal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Door Knob View Post
    Not really sure what's wrong with Africans. On an individual level they can be perfectly normal, intelligent people, no different to any other humans. But put them in a group and they'll be naked, dancing around a fire before you've had a chance to crack open your next beer.

    Not limited to Africans though. The Irish for instance very much display the same traits. Still pretty tribal.
    It's a big question really... when you look at the history of the world, the first civilisations emerged along large rivers and were a byproduct of the invention of agriculture.



    It looks like African civilisation was stunted because of the increased size of the Sahara, that basically led to Africa's large river civilisations along the Niger and Nile to wither, and later civilisations, including in Zimbabwe, to be too late to the party.
    China, and other civs peaked too soon, and it was the necessity for Europeans to cope with harsher climate and fewer resources that led to expansion and innovation. Conquest (sex and death) seems to drive technological innovation. The warm parts of the world, had less drive to advance their cultures at a faster pace, and hung onto pre-industrial (and pre-mediaeval) belief systems and cultures, and when faced with the more advanced European civilisations, they collapsed like dominos before they'd ever reached the stage of embedding fundamentals like rule of law and systems of rights and responsibilities. This now plagues them, as the deeply entrenched attitude is still pre-industrial (and pre-mediaeval), might is right, and trust in your fellow-ethnos is weak, and so you end up with constant gangster governance - despotism. It is only the cultures and states that admitted or absorbed some European cultural input that moved towards prosperity, and retreated from it when they purged it - Zimbabwe being a classic case. They see the advanced European culture, and they want to emulate the status they perceive as they interpret it through the prism of their pre-industrial world-view, and translate it into just another form of despotism; Singapore is yet another example.

    This description of the developing world, where you have Europeans on top, Orientals below them, Latinos below them, Asians below them, and Africans below them is of course regarded as deeply "racist", but it is also self-evident to many people. The way developing world cultures value things that seem more European, whether it's ethnic appearance, or material possessions, is a thing they all recognise as a tension within their own world. We benefit from it here, with our yellow lady friends, who value and desire the things of the Eur-American world more than those of where they're from.

    Eventually, once Mugabe is dead, and the Zims have tired of the Chinese, they may well return to where they were; the leadership of South Africa is important. Mandela was not quite the reforming hero he's made out to be, and South Africa is grappling with a corrupt African legacy, and the challenge of breaking away from the curse of Africa, and embracing it's European side, and the implicit benefits that come with that.

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