Thread: 'Veterans have done f*** all' Woman who urinated on war memorial insults heroes in co

Well yeah, some of the ex-skinheads on here are getting a bit too worked up, I'll give you that.

Originally Posted by Passing Through

this is a religious crime

See what I mean?

Giilmour's boy got 18 months for swinging off the cenotaph during a demo in Whitehall.

Mind you, I rather think he got potted because he was a silly wanker with way too much money and privilege courtesy of his father's Pink Floyd wealth.

If he had been a lower end oik working as a warehouse man for Iceland I daresay he would have been simply fined or given a community service order.

This woman has been banged up on remand for over seven weeks which is quite a price to pay for a drunken piss on some old concrete and plastic poppies.

Blair lies to Parliament and the entire fucking nation, dragging us into a war which cost the unnecessary loss of life of thousands, including 500 Brit squaddies.

And you silly wankers are wittering on about respect?

Originally Posted by cyrille

Originally Posted by Maanaam

is the LM law supported by any members outraged by the OP?

I don't see any parallel at all there.

Actually Maanaam has a point; punishing her any more than someone would be punished for urinating in public anywhere in London only serves to buy into the idiot notion that respect for your war dead is a reasonably debatable topic.

Mental patient is likely the best description of this swine.

She's an alcoholic who had an urgent need.

We're all God's little children.

Mind you, if she'd been a nigra and had taken an alfresco piss in Minnesota I daresay the cops would have blown her away on the spot, quite literally putting a cap in her ass.

It's not silly.

I was being sarcastic. Both lese majeste and this kind of thing are very similar. All societies pick out their own versions of the sacred and use state resources to protect them. Thais have the King, in France they've recently decided that the bare female body is one of theirs, and in Britain we have this weird ancestor worship, made manifest in our veneration of atavistic priapic monoliths.

Show me a sacred cow and I'll butcher it on the high altar of hypocrisy.

Har, har.

Originally Posted by BobR

punishing her any more than someone would be punished for urinating in public anywhere in London only serves to buy into the idiot notion that respect for your war dead is a reasonably debatable topic.

You see. Even thinking about it is taboo.

Originally Posted by Passing Through

It's not silly.

I was being sarcastic. Both lese majeste and this kind of thing are very similar. All societies pick out their own versions of the sacred and use state resources to protect it. Thais have the King, in France they've recently decided that the bare female body is one of theirs, and in Britain we have this weird ancestor worship, made manifest in our veneration of atavistic priapic monoliths.

Quite right.

My pet hate is that awful mantra spouted by the mawkish lower end when they go through this tedious ritual every November claiming the " fallen had died for us " as if it had fuck all to do with socio-political obligations prevailing at the time.

A lot of contradictions in her defence case.

Her plea was Not Guilty.
Alcohol presented as a mitigant.
But even stone cold sober in the dock and portrayed as a different person by counsel, she yells and screams in an asbo quality display.

I think she'll get six months, minus time off already served.

She's been charged with ''Outraging public Indecency'', not for insulting the war dead so you can't really compare it to the LM law in Thailand. If she'd walked past the Cenotaph, told it to Fuck off and not got her fanny out and pissed all over it, she wouldn't have been arrested in the first place.
There's kids walking about eating lollies and that fat trollops acting like a filthy animal.

Originally Posted by BobR

Actually Maanaam has a point; punishing her any more than someone would be punished for urinating in public anywhere in London only serves to buy into the idiot notion that respect for your war dead is a reasonably debatable topic.

Mental patient is likely the best description of this swine.

Originally Posted by CR7CristianoRonaldo

Her plea was Not Guilty.
Alcohol presented as a mitigant.
But even stone cold sober in the dock and portrayed as a different person by counsel, she yells and screams in an asbo quality display.

I think she'll get six months, minus time off already served.

It is her attitude that will get her into deeper trouble. Urinating in public is an offence. The sensitivities about the location are overplayed here.
Plead guilty, apologise via the court and show some remorse.
Compound the problem by denial and the abuse of the judge, and she will be very fortunate to get off with probation and time served.
If she performs again at sentencing she will go down.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

micturated

What is the point of using this word geticles? Why cant you just say urinate. Intellectual masturbation.

I stand corrected, it is pretty similar to the LM law. Though she wouldn't have been charged with anything if she had just told it to fuck off. It was the getting her fanny out and pissing all over it part that sealed the deal. But, you only have to fart in the wrong direction to be charged with LM in LOS.

For sure. This and LM aren't the same but they have their roots in the same soil.

Of course LM and U.K. War memorials are one and the same, both are based on fantasy.

^ Fucking retard.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

She's an alcoholic who had an urgent need.

We're all God's little children.

Mind you, if she'd been a nigra and had taken an alfresco piss in Minnesota I daresay the cops would have blown her away on the spot, quite literally putting a cap in her ass.

Funny, I was as pissed as a parrot last night but still felt no need to go and piss on a war memorial.

Personally, I think it's a shame that Britain abandoned the stocks.

I think having the stupid bitch padlocked up so that people could humiliate her and throw rotting fruit at her would be a suitable punishment, an adequate deterrent, and far less a burden on the taxpayer.

Oh, and for added irony, you could put her outside a pub so that departing patrons could use the opportunity to empty their bladders before the journey home.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

I think this act was a terrible indictment on the chronic lack of public conveniences that is now blighting Britain.

If there had been a toilet nearby I'm sure the woman would not have micturated thus.

Fair point and definitely extenuating circumstances. Austerity has resulted in the closure of public libraries and toilets. You must feel for the predicament of conservative MPs and employees of the BBC who now have to seek out rentboys at less convenient locations.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Show me a sacred cow and I'll start thinking of sausages.

FTFY.

Har, har.

Originally Posted by Somboon

Tie her down and get people to take a dump.on her.

Well that's...weird.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Somboon

Tie her down and get people to take a dump.on her.

Well that's...weird.

Obviously a big fan of Danish and German porn.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Somboon

Tie her down and get people to take a dump.on her.

Well that's...weird.

Obviously a big fan of Danish and German porn.

Or is he very young? Infantile almost.

Ok, some are getting my point despite my lack of stating a clear case.
Or they made the same point themselves, only better.

Lambaste the woman for public indecency (kids with lollipops etc). Charge her with public urination. The fact that it's a veterans memorial deserves no more castigation IF you're a despiser of Thai LM law.
If you support Thai LM (excluding the rampant abuses of the law), and punishing desecrators of Jewish graves etc, then your opinion is your own, and there's no double standard at outrage at urine on a veterans memorial.
But you can hardly be outraged at grave desecration and what this trollop did, and not be supportive of Thai LM.

I think her worst crime was all her profanity in court.

^ Think you are reaching a bit far there.

To me the nearest equivalent is the old "burning the American Flag", which drives some people into a tizzy i.e. the desecration of an object or symbol that people hold dear or cherish.

In America as I understand it, flag burning and similar acts are protected under the first amendment as "free speech" (although hotly and regularly debated).

The UK does not have such a strongly entrenched equivalent, and as noted she is being done for "outraging public decency" and not "public indecency" a very fine line.

So, the question is, does someone have the right to be deliberately offensive to a cherished symbol? Well, as there is a law of "outraging public decency" the answer in the UK is no, one does not.

Bang her up.