Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
There is no evidence the death penalty deters, read the statistics and the facts.
They are not FACTs. They are statistics and statistics can be made to say lots of things that are not true and do not take all factors into account. Only a total cauliflower brain could fail to see the blindingly obvious deterrent effect of the death penalty.

Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
It doesn't, people only imagine it does.
Do the avenged victims only imagine the warm feeling of satisfaction from revenge or do the really feel it. What is the difference between an imagined sensation and a real sensation?

Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
Read the part in bold.
I did. You are still off topic.

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Your phrase 'so we make it happen' confirms this. You cannot make it happen.
Why can we not make it happen? Where there is a possible democratic consensus there is a way.

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You are dead right; one of my beefs with the death penalty is, it is only a matter of time before an innocent party is executed.
You can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.