Thread: Bali Executions

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

For trafficking 5 grams of processed drugs the "death penalty may be imposed".

Technically, if you're in possession of 5 grams you could be charged with 'intent to traffic'.
That's the law for 5 grams or more.

To me any of those penalties are 'death-on-earth' for what --- a fookin' 5 grams - just a weekend party with your mates 'n their hoes.

What penalty would the prosecution impose for 5 gr possession in Tazmania - 10 AA classes and court costs ?

I'm really unsure what you are on about mate.

Urm,

Arn't these two charged with setting up the Bali run by strapping up the mules with Ten Kilo of smack.

Correct me if I'm wrong please.

This is a shit load of drugs huh.

Regards the 130K bribe.

If I had just been busted with 10 kilo of heroin in Bali and the trade off was 130 K I would cough it up in a heart beat.

Given I had it of course.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Indonesia like some other countries will sentence you to death simply for possession of drugs. That is their code of law.

Nope,

That's a pile of shit right there mate, If that was true Indonesia and Asia in general would not have enough bullets to Execute the dumb arsed Aussie tards that have been caught smuggling or carrying drugs.

Out of the Bali Nine only these two are being topped as they set the gig up.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

For trafficking 5 grams of processed drugs the "death penalty may be imposed".

Technically, if you're in possession of 5 grams you could be charged with 'intent to traffic'.
That's the law for 5 grams or more.

To me any of those penalties are 'death-on-earth' for what --- a fookin' 5 grams - just a weekend party with your mates 'n their hoes.

What penalty would the prosecution impose for 5 gr possession in Tazmania - 10 AA classes and court costs ?

I'm really unsure what you are on about mate.

Urm,

Arn't these two charged with setting up the Bali run by strapping up the mules with Ten Kilo of smack.

Correct me if I'm wrong please.

This is a shit load of drugs huh.

Terry, you're smarter than this.

Read what I wrote in the context of what you wrote (above) re: "That's a pile of shit..."

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by taxexile

terry, you truly are a silly arse at times.

you seem to have no conception of the insidious and destructive nature of corruption.

Yes I do understand what you are saying and you are correct.

But given the choice of dying or paying 130K what do you recommend is the correct cause of action. ?

Given it was your neck on the line huh.

pay of course, but the point i made earlier in this thread was that the indo justice system and those who operate it cannot be trusted.

whilst the two australians may in theory deserve the death sentence according to indonesian law, the others waiting to die, notably the filipina girl, most certainly dont and what is the point of a death sentence if you can buy your way out of it by bribing the sentencing judge. it is just an income stream for him.

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The 5 gram law is on the books and if they crack the shits I suppose they could top the Smuggler.


They do not though do they,

All the dug smugglers put to death have been convicted for trafficking large quantities of Class A drugs.

Small amounts like 5 grams get banged up for a long stretch in the pokie.

Mate, at the end of the day its a hard call to howl down Indonesia's right to in-force its law.

You seem to think Indonesia walk smugglers out the back and top them over 5 grams. ?

Not true that is it.

I get no joy to see these two killed by the way, just facing facts that's all.

Originally Posted by taxexile

pay of course, but the point i made earlier in this thread was that the Indo justice system and those who operate it cannot be trusted.

Whilst the two Australians may in theory deserve the death sentence according to Indonesian law, the others waiting to die, notably the Filipino girl, most certainly don't and what is the point of a death sentence if you can buy your way out of it by bribing the sentencing judge. it is just an income stream for him.

Well, the drug smuggling game is a very dirty business and kills many people by its addictive nature at the end of the line.

The Indonesian justice system is rotten to the core, everyone knows that.

At the end of the day you have two criminal elements playing each other off.

The people who indulge in the drug game can play the system to save their own life if they have money

Does not concern the normal punter going over to Bali for a Surf and a few Bintangs.

Another retard Australian was busted the other day for smoking mull on the beach.

I mean ya gota laugh huh.

Something seriously fuked up with us Australians at times.

I suppose we could cure the corruption money payed to the Indonesian judges by simply not smuggling drugs.

Now there is a fair idea huh.

What's 'mull'?

Whacky Tabacci?
Way Out Woodbines?
Left-handed Luckys?
Doobies?
A Spliff?

Originally Posted by terry57

Regards the 130K bribe.

If I had just been busted with 10 kilo of heroin in Bali and the trade off was 130 K I would cough it up in a heart beat.

Given I had it of course.

Originally Posted by taxexile

pay of course, but the point i made earlier in this thread was that the indo justice system and those who operate it cannot be trusted.

And there is no guarantee. You may a lawyer, who takes a cut and then gives it to a middle man, he takes a cut and then delivers it to a judge, maybe.

Who keep the money and then maybe give a verdict or want, or maybe not.

Plenty of examples of people paying money for nothing with the Indonesian justice system.

Originally Posted by terry57

Does not concern the normal punter going over to Bali for a Surf and a few Bintangs.

Bullshit. It most certainly can involve set ups or accidental charges.

Ask Neil and Ferdi how guilty they are (not).

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Mull = The green shit mate,

One can smell it for miles around so here we have the great Aussie retard sitting on Kuta Beach blowing a dobie.


Look,

I love to have a smoke but not on Kuta beach and certainly not in places where the authorities are going to tear you a new arse hole if they catch you.

Jesus, heaps of mull in Australia and little consequence to suffer if only busted with a joint unlike Bali where they throw ones arse in Jail.

See what I mean about drug users and drug smugglers in Bali.

They ask for everything they get, this is why the Judges extort them and the system kills them.

Warned loud and clear before even stepping foot in the country yet they still have a crack.

Fuk em basically, not my problem.

Jesus Willy why are you being such a silly coont regards this subject . ??

Of course there is no guarantee the money will save ones arse but if one's looking at a death sentence one will try it.

Regards setups,

The vast majority of normal punters have nothing to fear and you know it.

Yes it can happen but it can happen in any country.

I think it's quite creepy the way these 2 guys have been made to wait and wait, with the threat of imminent death hanging over them.

Anyone who has been to the headmaster's office to get the cane knows that the waiting is just as bad as the punishment.

We can only hope that all this bluster is to save Indonesian face, and that there will be a last-minute reprieve.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

I think it's quite creepy the way these 2 guys have been made to wait and wait, with the threat of imminent death hanging over them.

Anyone who has been to the headmaster's office to get the cane knows that the waiting is just as bad as the punishment.

We can only hope that all this bluster is to save Indonesian face, and that there will be a last-minute reprieve.

Yes, the American prison system doesn't make prisoners wait on death row, sometimes for decades.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

We can only hope that all this bluster is to save Indonesian face, and that there will be a last-minute reprieve.

It's not and there will not be.

Originally Posted by terry57

Jesus Willy why are you being such a silly coont regards this subject . ??

You mean speaking the truth ?

Originally Posted by Koojo

Yes, the American prison system doesn't make prisoners wait on death row, sometimes for decades.

That had occurred to me as I was writing, and I think that's creepy, too !

I've been reading articles recently about how strange the American corporate prison system is.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by terry57

Does not concern the normal punter going over to Bali for a Surf and a few Bintangs.

Bullshit. It most certainly can involve set ups or accidental charges.

Exactly, there are numerous examples of miscarriages of justice throughout the world but some, for reasons best known to themselves remain oblivious. The Filipina girl in this case has been framed and if you look harder at the events in China it was very much the same regarding at least one of the condemned there too!

Originally Posted by Latindancer

I think it's quite creepy the way these 2 guys have been made to wait and wait, with the threat of imminent death hanging over them.

Jesus, this thread gets more stupid by the second.

Here we have LD crying a river because these two have been banged up on Death Island waiting for the courts to make a decision on a possible reprieve.

Suppose he would of been more happy if they executed them before the result of the appeal was known. ?????

The worst part is he is ignoring the actual crime they have committed and are now paying the price for.

Is there pain more than that of the scores of young people their drug smuggling has affected and ruined those peoples lives and future ?

I think not.

Originally Posted by terry57

Is there pain more than that of the scores of young people their drug smuggling has affected and ruined those peoples lives and future ?

I think not.

Uh what? Don't these people who consume drugs have the choice of saying no?

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by terry57

Jesus Willy why are you being such a silly coont regards this subject . ??

You mean speaking the truth ?

Willy,

You have been to Bali heaps of times and more than likely will continue to go there the same as myself and millions of other tourists.

In fact, I will be there in 5 weeks time. Most tourists are climbing over each other to get in so obviously the vast majority are not concerned with being set up.

The chances of set up is considerable if sourcing drugs on the street or being involved in similar dodgy activity.

For the normal tourist they're is a tiny chance they will become involved in some set up by the Filth.

In-fact its no more of a risk than any other Asian third world country.

In all the times you have gone there you would of been involved in no more trouble except breaking your fingernail when applying your makeup.

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Spot on Ronin.

I further do not remember the drug users suffering from a shortage post the arrest of the Bali 9.

Originally Posted by Ronin

Uh what? Don't these people who consume drugs have the choice of saying no?

Mate, that's why the world despises Heroin smugglers and distributors.

That shit can hook people after 1 try, people ruin their lives chasing it.

Young people experiment by nature. Young people have trouble saying No.

Smack ain't like banging down a few bongs huh.

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You on the crack again Mandy.

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Nicotine is just as addictive as heroin.

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Yep,

Just as I figured.

Mandy has downed too much hot milk and Ya-Ba so is now on line again.

Originally Posted by terry57

That shit can hook people after 1 try, people ruin their lives chasing it.

So how would you treat-
baccy smugglers?
people smugglers?
Tabmules? (pharmaceuticals)

Oh, and random question- How many times have you chased the dragon? Did it ruin your life?

Originally Posted by terry57

Smack ain't like banging down a few bongs huh.

Never tried, never will. But I have heard different opinions.

Should endangered Wildlife smugglers be shown more clemency than drug smugglers?