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    It also happens to be a sure sign of narcissism. It gives a sense of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I think your "taking the piss" detector is defective.
    One is to deduce all your posts are lies. Thank you for your clarification.
    Last edited by OhOh; 12-12-2020 at 09:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It depends. Rising temperatures have more effect on corals.

    Certainly in shallow areas the high temperatures have killed off corals.

    But lower "high" temperatures have created an environment where corals can flourish.

    The problem is that whole ecosystem around large coral reefs has been destroyed, so just having new corals growing is only part of the process.

    Which the Russky cuntos don't want to point out because they want to keep selling oil.
    This ain't the global warming thread piss nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One is to deduce all your posts are lies. Thank you for your clarification.
    As usual your 'deductions' are up your arse . . . aren't there Mandarin forums/fora around for you to engage with your peers?

    Maybe that way you'll actually understand the conversation.



    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    This ain't the global warming thread piss nuts


    Seriously, why do you go out of your way each time to prove how dense you are. Read the thread, follow the thread (more than one post or sentence) and understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One is to deduce all your posts are lies. Thank you for your clarification.
    One is to deduce you're too stupid to realise I was talking about someone else's post, you dumb shit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Maybe that way you'll actually understand the conversation.
    This is skidmark you are talking about. He's as thick as shit.

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    China Passes Law Allowing Coastguard to Use Force Against Foreign Vessels


    China passed a new law Friday granting the China Coast Guard (CCG) more leeway in asserting the nation’s claims in the contested South China Sea and authorizing the use of force against foreign vessels.


    The National People’s Congress passed the Coast Guard Law of the People’s Republic of China to help the CCG defend China’s “national sovereignty, security, and maritime rights and interests.”


    Since it was founded in 2013, the CCG has operated across the South China Sea, which is the site of overlapping maritime and territorial claims between China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan, Malaysia, and Brunei. In 2018, the CCG was transferred from the State Oceanic Administration to the People’s Armed Police, making it part of China’s military.


    The CCG already has a reputation for confronting and sometimes clashing with fishing boats and other vessels of neighboring countries in contested waters in the South China Sea, which Beijing claims virtually all for itself.


    Analysts see the new law as an attempt to provide grounds for escalating CCG’s assertive behavior in the South China Sea. University of New South Wales Emeritus Professor Carl Thayer told Radio Free Asia that “China is just trying to dress up whatever it does and say ‘Our laws cover it’.”


    Article 22 of the new law authorizes the CCG to “take all necessary measures including the use of weapons to stop infringements and eliminate dangers” when “foreign organizations and individuals” infringe upon China’s “national sovereignty, sovereign rights, and jurisdiction.”


    Article 47 permits CCG personnel to use hand-held weapons when foreign vessels resist orders from the CCG and other stopping measures fall short.


    Article 20 allows the CCG to stop foreign countries from “constructing buildings, structures, and setting up all kinds of fixed or floating installations” in China’s “jurisdictional waters” or on islands and reefs claimed by China. It also authorizes the CCG to demolish these structures.


    Other articles in the law give the CCG the right to track and monitor foreign vessels in China’s jurisdictional waters, detain or forcibly remove foreign vessels operating in China’s territorial seas, and forcibly evict foreign military or government vessels from jurisdictional waters.


    Another section allows CCG personnel to use shipborne weapons, airborne weapons, and hand-held weapons in anti-terrorism operations, during “serious violent incidents,” and when CCG ships and aircraft are attacked with “weapons or other violent means.”


    Data from the China Power Project, a program of the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank in Washington D.C., shows that CCG ships and other Chinese maritime law enforcement vessels are involved in the majority of major incidents in the South China Sea.


    A previous Radio Free Asia investigation found that CCG vessels work with China’s maritime militia to maintain a continuous presence in contested areas.


    The Coast Guard Law will come into effect on February 1, 2021.


    There was no immediate reaction from neighboring governments to the passage of the law on Friday. But it is likely to intensify concerns that China could use force in disputed waters. Coastal nations fish the South China Sea intensively and conduct exploration for oil and gas there.


    China Passes Law Allowing Coastguard to Use Force Against Foreign Vessels — Radio Free Asia

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    Japan Becomes Latest Nation to Contest Beijing’s Claims in the South China Sea


    Japan has joined a growing list of countries that are challenging China’s maritime claims in the South China Sea.


    On Tuesday, Japan presented a one-page diplomatic note to the United Nations rejecting China’s baseline claims and denouncing its efforts to limit the freedom of navigation and overflight.


    Japan’s note is the latest in series of recent criticisms of China’s position, joining submissions to the U.N. from the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Malaysia, Australia, Indonesia, Vietnam, the Philippines, and the United States.


    This backlash suggests that China’s excessive claims and its assertive behavior are setting off alarm bells in in a growing number of capitals—both in Southeast Asia and beyond.


    “By joining the United States and several European and Asian nations in formally protesting China's claims, Japan is joining a diplomatic (and maybe operational) effort to reject specific elements of China's South China Sea claims,” said Isaac Kardon, an assistant professor at the U.S. Naval War College.


    In its submission, Japan explicitly rejects China’s claim that the “drawing of territorial sea baselines by China on relevant islands and reefs in the South China Sea conforms to UNCLOS and general international law.”


    The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea is an international treaty that covers maritime jurisdictions, the use of sea resources, and the freedom of navigation and overflight. Baselines are imaginary lines on a map connecting the outermost points of the features of an archipelago and are meant to circumscribe the territory that belongs to it.

    Deeper Southeast Asia ties


    Although Japan is not among the claimants in the South China Sea, this is not its first foray into those turbulent waters.


    Japan has deepened security ties with several of the Southeast Asian claimant nations in recent years, and in October 2020 carried out anti-submarine exercises in the South China Sea.


    Japanese companies have signed onto joint offshore energy projects with Vietnam, and Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga recently set a defense export agreement with Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc.


    Similarly, the Philippines has acquired coast guard vessels and radar systems from Japan. And Japanese vessels have participated in exercises in the South China Sea with forces from the United States and the Philippines.


    Japan’s decision to challenge China’s position in the South China Sea is also likely related to its dispute with China over the Japanese-occupied Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea.


    “The timing of the note is crucial,” Pooja Bhatt, a PhD candidate at Jawaharlal Nehru University, said, “as it was released a few hours prior to a reportedly high-level consultation on maritime issues between China and Japan where the latter lodged a diplomatic protest over increasing Chinese belligerence near the Senkaku Islands.”


    More broadly, Bhatt said Japan’s action reflected a trend of non-claimant states that “seek safety and freedom of trade and navigation” and hope to “uphold the rule of law and internationally accepted norms in the high seas of the South China Sea just like any other global commons.”


    Because “the waters of the South China Sea beyond the territorial sea are high seas that impact global peace and security,” Bhatt explained, claimant and non-claimant states “are increasingly vocal to register their concern through diplomatic notes to the United Nations at the multilateral level.”


    At odds with UNCLOS


    For example, France, Germany, and the United Kingdom submitted joint notes to the United Nations in September 2020. They contended that China’s baseline claims and historic rights claims were inconsistent with UNCLOS.


    China claims straight baselines around the Paracel Islands, an area in the northern South China Sea disputed by Vietnam, China, and Taiwan. Assessments of these claims have long concluded that China’s baselines in the Paracels are at odds with UNCLOS requirements. China has not yet claimed baselines around the Spratly Islands, the site of overlapping claims between China, Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, Taiwan, and Malaysia.


    In July 2016, an UNCLOS tribunal ruled that China “is constituted principally by territory on the mainland of Asia and cannot meet the definition of an archipelagic State,” which means that any future straight baseline claims around the Spratly Islands will not find any support under international law. The arbitral award also invalidated China’s historic rights claims within its so-called “nine-dash line.”


    The UNCLOS tribunal at the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague issued this arbitral award in response to a legal challenge brought against China in 2013 by the Philippines. China refused to participate in the arbitration, rejected the PCA’s ruling, and has continued to defend its baseline claims.


    In the years since the UNCLOS tribunal ruling, the legal battle over China’s South China Sea claims has continued. According to Kardon, Japan’s recent note to the U.N. is part of “a series of such diplomatic notes that began with Malaysia's December 2019 submission of extended continental shelf claims to the United Nations Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf.”


    China responded by asking the Commission to “not consider” Malaysia’s submission. “This provided another target for claimants and other interested parties to voice formal objections to specific aspects of China's claims,” Kardon said.


    Japan’s note to the United Nations is a response to China’s retort to the joint notes that France, Germany, and the United Kingdom submitted in September 2020.


    Japan’s note also expresses concern about China’s position on freedom of navigation and overflight in the South China Sea – specifically over what are called “low-tide elevations,” features exposed at low tide but submerged at high tide that do not generate a territorial sea.


    Japan specifically accuses China of protesting “the overflight of Japanese aircraft in the airspace surrounding Mischief Reef” – a low-tide elevation in the Spratly Islands that China transformed into a major outpost through land reclamation.


    Japan Becomes Latest Nation to Contest Beijing’s Claims in the South China Sea — Radio Free Asia

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    Article 22 of the new law authorizes the CCG to “take all necessary measures including the use of weapons to stop infringements and eliminate dangers” when “foreign organizations and individuals” infringe upon China’s “national sovereignty, sovereign rights, and jurisdiction.”
    I look forward to the chinkies trying this on a US or British navy ship.

    But of course the cowards intend to use it as an excuse to sink tinpot SEA navies trying to stop them plundering other peoples fish stocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    But of course the cowards intend to use it as an excuse to sink tinpot SEA navies trying to stop them plundering other peoples fish stocks.
    . . . and drilling of course.

    Vile creatures

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    I look forward to the chinkies trying their new found powers.... of course it won't happen, they are all mouth.

    TAIPEI (Reuters) - A U.S. aircraft carrier group led by the USS Theodore Roosevelt has entered the South China Sea to promote “freedom of the seas”, the U.S. military said on Sunday, at a time when tensions between China and Taiwan have raised concern in Washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I look forward to the chinkies trying their new found powers.... of course it won't happen, they are all mouth.
    They'll wait until they find a lone Philippine or Cambodian fishing boat and then WHAM China, the mighty

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    Fishers group urges PH gov’t to denounce China’s Coast Guard law


    LUCENA CITY –– A militant fisherfolk group urged the Duterte administration to strongly condemn Beijing’s recently passed Coast Guard law which they branded as a “severe measure imposed by the Chinese aggressors” and “is virtually a declaration of war” against countries that are legitimate claimants of the Chinese-claimed marine territory.

    “The Coast Guard Law was obviously part of strengthening China’s naval forces to swarm the West Philippine Sea,” Fernando Hicap, chair of Pambansang Lakas ng Kilusang Mamamalakaya ng Pilipinas (Pamalakaya), said in a statement.

    He added: “The Philippine government must decisively denounce this law and protect the Filipinos against Chinese aggressors”.


    The law passed by China expressly allows its coast guard to “take all necessary measures, including the use of weapons when national sovereignty, sovereign rights, and jurisdiction are being illegally infringed upon by foreign organizations or individuals at sea.”

    “We fervently condemn China’s egregious display of aggression and military might,” Hicap said.


    He argued that the measure “contradicts the principle of freedom of navigation recognized by international maritime law.”




    The group calls on other claimant countries of the South China Sea to “collectively assert” their respective sovereign rights and promote demilitarization and freedom of navigation in the contested waters.


    The Philippines, China, Brunei, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Taiwan have overlapping claims in the South China Sea, one of the world’s most important waterways.


    The new China’s law, according to Hicap, “is an affront to the national sovereignty.”


    “This is a serious threat to Filipino fishers who would be conducting fishing expedition in our very own territorial waters,” he stressed.


    China in recent years had transformed reefs and islands into outposts fitted and equipped with harbors, airstrips, missile shelters, and communication facilities, which expanded its ability to monitor its and rivals’ activities in the South China Sea, which Beijing claims to own.


    The 2016 decision by the United Nations-backed arbitral tribunal in The Hague ruled that Beijing’s claims have no basis and its South China Sea construction frenzy is illegal.



    Fishers group urges PH gov’t to denounce China’s Coast Guard law | Inquirer News

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    Duterte won't do anything meaningful, he has his snout in the chinky trough.

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    China Builds New Housing on Key South China Sea Island to Support Growing Population

    China is set to construct new housing to accommodate nearly 400 people on Woody Island, a sign of its effort to support a growing population on this key outpost in the disputed South China Sea, Chinese government documents and satellite imagery show.


    Bidding documents acquired by Radio Free Asia, a BenarNews sister entity, show that local officials started planning the public housing facility in mid-2020. It is the fifth such facility to be built on Woody since 2012, when China established Sansha City on the island to administer the Paracels, Spratlys, and other contested areas.


    According to the records, Hainan Fangcheng Construction and Engineering Group Company Limited, a private enterprise, won the construction contract earlier this month. One of these documents reveals the planned location for the new building along Beijing Erheng Road, about 200 meters away from the city government headquarters in Sansha City.


    Satellite imagery reviewed by RFA shows that an area on Beijing Erheng Road corresponding to the location described in the document was cleared in August 2020. The cleared area is between another public housing building and the city’s public security bureau, both of which are named in the bidding document.


    The new housing project underscores how China is working to grow and support the populations of its remote island outposts in the South China Sea, notwithstanding the contested nature of China’s sovereignty over the features it is building on. Taiwan and Vietnam also claim the Paracel Islands.


    International attention typically focuses on China’s assertive behavior at sea by its coastguard and maritime militia – which often operate out of Woody Island and China’s other outposts. Last week, China adopted legislation authorizing its coastguard to use force against foreign vessels, which was protested by the Philippine government, which described it as a “verbal threat of war.”


    But China’s little-watched construction work in the Paracels and the Spratly Islands further south also sheds light on an important aspect of its ongoing strategy to assert its sweeping territorial and maritime claims.


    RFA reported last week on how China has in recent months been reclaiming more land on Woody Island and reinforcing its coast against erosion, in a sign of its effort to ensure the long-term viability of its settlement there.


    A bidding document for the new housing project specifies that the building will be 23 meters high, occupy 2,000 square meters, have 214 rooms, and accommodate up to 391 people. That will expand the current pool of accommodations. Two five-story public housing buildings were reportedly completed in June 2014, and the city started a second pair of public housing buildings on Woody Island in 2015. In the same year, Sansha City started constructing a new residential neighborhood on the island for fishermen.


    China has worked to improve the infrastructure and living conditions on Woody Island and other settlements within the city’s jurisdiction to reduce the hardships of living there. Local officials, provincial authorities, central ministries, private and state-owned enterprises, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), and other entities have coordinated the development of seawater desalination plants, green energy installations, storm shelters, and a wide range of other facilities.


    And as this infrastructure has grown over the years, so too has Sansha City’s population.


    In early 2013, Sansha’s party secretary and mayor claimed that the city had 833 permanent residents and 233 household registration-holding residents by the end of 2012. (At the time, the city's leader did not explain the differences between these two categories of residents, but "permanent residents" may refer to people who live in Sansha full-time while remaining registered elsewhere). According to official statistics from Hainan province, the city had 427 registered households with 600 residents by 2017.


    As of Jan. 27 of this year, Sansha City’s website reported 1,800 permanent residents, not including soldiers stationed in the city, and 621 household registration-holding residents. Other sources suggest the city had 2,500 permanent residents by 2017, again not including soldiers.


    Because these figures do not include the PLA, they only capture a portion of Sansha City’s population. The PLA maintains a significant presence on Woody Island and other occupied features in the Paracel and Spratly islands. For example, when Sansha City was established in 2012, a Chinese news outlet claimed that, between military and civilian personnel, China’s telecommunications infrastructure in the Paracel Islands had nearly 4,000 users.


    Local officials have described attracting residents to Sansha City and promoting formal household registration as a means of asserting China’s sovereignty. And many of these residents — ranging from civilian bureaucrats to maritime law enforcement personnel — perform important duties related to defending China’s claims in the South China Sea disputes.


    The city government subsidizes the bureaucrats, workers, soldiers, and fishermen who live in the city, particularly encouraging fishermen to live in Sansha for at least 180 days per year.


    Beyond building public housing projects on Woody Island, Sansha City is supporting its expanding population through other means. The city recently was recognized as a “National Sanitary City” for its public sanitation, environmental protection, and public health efforts.


    The city’s government has also built housing projects on other occupied features to provide a higher quality of life on once-desolate outposts. For example, in October 2019 it finished a major housing project on Tree Island in the Paracels, reportedly completing 53 houses grouped into nine larger buildings.


    Bidding records from late 2020 indicate that Sansha City is planning additional housing projects on Tree Island, namely a three-story public housing building with 140 housing units, a dining hall, and other facilities.

    China Builds New Housing on Key South China Sea Island to Support Growing Population — BenarNews

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    China Accuses Philippines of Spreading Fake Info in Maritime Disputes


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    Beijing’s embassy here hit out at the Philippines on Monday for what it called “false accusations” about a new law allowing the Chinese coast guard to use force in South China Sea waters claimed by the Asian superpower.


    In a statement on its Facebook page, the Chinese Embassy in Manila said its Coast Guard Law had been “misinterpreted” and was “a normal domestic legislative activity.”


    It also claimed that “forces in the Philippines” had “fabricated and spread relentlessly fake news” about the China Coast Guard harassing Filipino fishermen, and “sensationalized” the entry of a Chinese scientific survey ship into Philippine waters as an “intrusion.”


    The Philippines last week filed a diplomatic protest against China, with Foreign Secretary Teodoro Locsin Jr. saying that while enacting a law was usually a sovereign prerogative, this law had implications that affected other nations with claims in the disputed South China Sea.


    This law, “given the area involved or for that matter the open South China Sea – is a verbal threat of war to any country that defies the law; which, if unchallenged, is submission to it,” Locsin said.


    Gregory Poling, a senior fellow at the Washington think Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the law was vague.


    Beijing’s “vague definition of Chinese waters … makes it likely that the law will be used as an excuse for further coercion off the shores of Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines,” he told VnExpress news site on Friday.


    China claims nearly the entire South China Sea, including waters within the exclusive economic zones of Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan. While Indonesia does not regard itself as party to the South China Sea dispute, Beijing claims historic rights to parts of that sea overlapping Indonesia's exclusive economic zone as well.


    ‘No storm, or strong waves’


    Meanwhile, the Chinese Embassy said its research ship was “seeking humanitarian shelter in Philippine waters due to unfavorable weather and sea conditions in the Pacific.”


    However, a Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) spokesman told news site Inquirer.net on Monday that Jia Geng, the Chinese ship, entered Philippine waters without Philippine government clearance.


    The Department of Foreign Affairs told PCG that the Chinese embassy requested diplomatic clearance on Jan. 29 for the ship to take shelter due to bad weather, but at the time, there was no storm nor were there strong waves in the area, the spokesman was quoted as saying.


    The Chinese ship also refused to allow PCG personnel on board to inspect it, citing COVID-19 restrictions, the spokesman said.


    It has since left the area – Cabugao Bay in Bato, Catanduanes – escorted by an Islander plane to oversee its departure from Philippine waters, the report said.


    Separately, a Filipino fisherman, Larry Hugo, last week accused CCG of driving fishermen away while they were fishing near the Philippine-occupied Pag-asa Island, which is also called Thitu.


    The Western Command Armed Forces of the Philippines said, however, that “there was no reported incident of blocking or harassment” by a CCG vessel at the time Hugo claimed the incident occurred.


    WESCOM said that a CCG vessel was indeed in the area but it was “improbable” it blocked fishermen where Hugo claimed this happened because “the water in between the two cays are too shallow for any ship to venture without risking running aground.”


    In June 2018, a widely circulated TV video caught members of the China Coast Guard confiscating the catch of Filipino fishermen near a disputed shoal within Manila’s exclusive economic zone.


    Romel Cejuela, one of the fishermen who appeared in the video, said Scarborough Shoal was a traditional fishing ground but the Chinese coast guard “started blocking our path and then completely prevented us from fishing,” beginning in 2012.


    “We can only fish in the perimeter. We’ve tried going in (but) you’ve heard that they water canon the boats. They chase us with big boats,” Cejuela said. “Since then, we don’t dare go in.”


    China Accuses Philippines of Spreading Fake Info in Maritime Disputes — Radio Free Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    China Accuses Philippines of Spreading Fake Info in Maritime Disputes
    They've got a fucking nerve eh?


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    U.S. Carrier Strike Groups, French Submarine Conduct South China Sea Operations


    Two U.S. aircraft carrier strike groups conducted dual operations in the South China Sea on Tuesday, the latest in a series of U.S. military maneuvers in those turbulent waters.


    In a sign of growing international pushback against China’s expansive claims and assertive behavior, French Defense Minister Florence Parly confirmed Monday that a French nuclear attack submarine and an accompanying support ship recently completed a patrol in the South China Sea.


    The operations point to the expanding role of non-claimant states in the South China Sea, which is contested by China, the Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei and Malaysia.


    Earlier in January, Nikkei Asia reported that Germany is considering sending a naval frigate through the South China Sea as early as this coming summer – indication of an increasing willingness among such nations to deploy military assets to back up their diplomatic messaging.


    The United States is at the forefront of this pushback.


    The deployment of the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group and the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group was the second dual aircraft carrier operation by the U.S. in the South China Sea in little over six months.


    “The ships and aircraft of the two strike groups coordinated operations in a highly trafficked area to demonstrate the U.S. Navy’s ability to operate in challenging environments,” the U.S. Navy said in a statement.


    “Through operations like this, we ensure that we are tactically proficient to meet the challenge of maintaining peace and we are able to continue to show our partners and allies in the region that we are committed to promoting a Free and Open Indo-Pacific,” Rear Adm. Doug Verissimo, commander of the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group, was quoted as saying.


    The last dual carrier operation in the South China Sea was in July 2020, involving the USS Ronald Reagan and USS Nimitz.


    Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Wang Wenbin criticized Tuesday’s operation, noting “the U.S. has frequently sent warships and aircraft to the South China Sea as a show of force, which is not conducive to regional stability and peace.


    “China will continue to take necessary measures to firmly safeguard its national sovereignty and security, and will work with regional countries to resolutely protect the peace and stability of the South China Sea,” Wang said.


    Last week, the USS John S. McCain Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer conducted a freedom of navigation operation (FONOP) in the Chinese-occupied Paracel Islands, which a Chinese military spokesman described as “seriously violating China’s sovereignty and security.” It was the first such FONOP since President Joe Biden took office last month.

    And earlier in January, the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group carried out routine operations in the South China Sea, including maritime strike exercises and coordinated tactical training between surface and air units.


    Allies involved


    Other countries are joining the fray too.


    In series of tweets on Monday, Parly revealed that the SNA Emeraude, a nuclear attack submarine, recently completed operations in the South China Sea.


    According to Parly, the SNA Emeraude was accompanied by a support ship, the BSAM Seine.


    “This extraordinary patrol has just completed a passage in the South China Sea. A striking proof of the capacity of our French Navy to deploy far away and for a long time together with our Australian, American and Japanese strategic partners,” she said.


    Parly added that operation was meant to affirm international law, and that France intends to protect its sovereignty and interests in the Indo-Pacific region, where it still controls numerous territories.


    U.S. allies Japan and Australia have also participated in military exercises in the South China Sea in recent months.


    Meanwhile, a growing number of non-claimant powers have formally challenged China’s maximalist South China Sea claims in the United Nations, including the U.S. but also Australia, Indonesia, France, Germany, and Japan.


    For instance, in September 2020 the United Kingdom, France, and Germany submitted joint diplomatic notes to the U.N. rejecting China’s baseline claims in the Paracel Islands, its “historic rights” claims, and other aspects of China’s position.


    According to specialists, outside countries have long pursued their interests in this contested body of water. Hoang Viet, an expert on the South China Sea, told BenarNews that European countries are particularly concerned about upholding international law and in particular the navigational freedoms granted by international law.

    U.S. Carrier Strike Groups, French Submarine Conduct South China Sea Operations — BenarNews

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    We are flexing there and the Chinese are not able to respond. Fuck them.

    Biden in the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    We are flexing there and the Chinese are not able to respond. Fuck them.

    Biden in the house.


    YOU!! ESS!! EH!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Duterte won't do anything meaningful, he has his snout in the chinky trough.
    Exactly what I was thinking Harry.

    I'd like to know what percentage of their overall trade countries like Vietnam, Brunei, and other regional countries involved have with China. I'm guessing significant. In the long game this is going to play a major role in determining the eventual outcome of the dispute. I'm pleased the US is being allowed to step back a little and let others nations be more involved.

    In any case I'm pleased with these developments. Time will tell.



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    Oh fuck yes. I'm surprised the Chinese haven't already relinquished all claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I'd like to know what percentage of their overall trade countries like Vietnam, Brunei, and other regional countries involved have with China.
    Dated 2019 so there will be some changes since then.

    Numbers:

    China Imports By Country
    Value Year
    South Korea $173.55B 2019
    Japan $171.52B 2019
    United States $123.24B 2019
    Australia $119.61B 2019
    Germany $105.04B 2019
    Brazil $79.20B 2019
    Malaysia $71.63B 2019
    Vietnam $64.08B 2019
    Russia $60.26B 2019
    Saudi Arabia $54.26B 2019
    Thailand $46.13B 2019
    Singapore $35.23B 2019
    Indonesia $33.99B 2019
    France $32.58B 2019
    Canada $28.03B 2019
    Switzerland $27.40B 2019
    Chile $26.29B 2019
    South Africa $25.93B 2019
    United Kingdom $23.83B 2019
    Iraq $23.81B 2019
    Angola $23.31B 2019
    Italy $21.42B 2019
    Philippines $20.17B 2019
    Oman $19.46B 2019
    India $17.97B 2019

    China Exports By Country
    Value
    Year
    United States $418.58B 2019
    Hong Kong $279.62B 2019
    Japan $143.22B 2019
    South Korea $110.98B 2019
    Vietnam $98.00B 2019
    Germany $79.71B 2019
    India $74.92B 2019
    Netherlands $73.95B 2019
    United Kingdom $62.28B 2019
    Singapore $54.96B 2019
    Malaysia $52.48B 2019
    Russia $49.48B 2019
    Australia $48.10B 2019
    Mexico $46.38B 2019
    Indonesia $45.69B 2019
    Thailand $45.62B 2019
    Philippines $40.76B 2019
    Canada $36.83B 2019
    Brazil $35.48B 2019
    United Arab Emirates $33.45B 2019
    Italy $33.41B 2019
    France $33.10B 2019
    Spain $26.82B 2019
    Saudi Arabia $23.92B 2019
    Poland $23.91B 2019


    https://tradingeconomics.com/china/imports-by-country
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Dated 2019 so there will be some changes since then
    Thanks for posting those..

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    China Exports By Country

    United States $418.58B 2019
    Hong Kong $279.62B
    Wondering that the HKer need so many goods as a half of USA. Obviously it's for re-export - guessing where to...

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