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    How many times do they have to tell the stupid chinkies they are not going to negotiate over their own waters?

    Mind you they need to do a bit more than just write letters saying fuck off, chinkies.

    Sinking their shit boats would be the best move.

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    Strangers take over part of your home . . . you tell them to get out. They want to negotiate how much they'll give back.

    China making enemies left. right and centre . . . India, Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam, USA, Australia etc etc etc etc

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    China Resumes Dredging at South China Sea’s Woody Island

    China is dredging in a bay at Woody Island, its biggest settlement in the South China Sea, a likely effort to expand the artificial island’s northwest corner, satellite imagery shows.


    This development in the disputed Paracel island chain, in the northern part of the sea, comes amid mounting concern in Southeast Asia over China’s assertion of its sweeping territorial claims.


    In an unusual move Friday, Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) leaders called for maintaining free airspace over the South China Sea in reaction to reports that Beijing’s plans to establish an Air Defense Identification Zone over the region.


    Woody Island, where the dredging appears to have been under way for several weeks, includes Sansha City, China’s main administrative center in the Paracels – an archipelago of rocks and reefs disputed between China, Vietnam, and Taiwan.


    Commercial satellite imagery between April 17 and June 25 shows the shallow fringing reef off Woody Island’s Northwest coast, right next to the smaller of the island’s two harbors, has had a chunk dug out of its center. Also visible are a web of new land bridges that could be a foundation for more land reclamation, to expand the island.


    Cranes or heavy machinery can be spotted working in the same spot on May 8. Based on BenarNews’ review of the imagery, sand was likely dredged out of Woody Island’s shallows to create this new structure. The coastline nearest the foundation has been been reinforced with what looks like a sea wall and several smaller artificial jetty-like structures have been built at points along the coast to the east.


    Woody Island often hosts ships of the China Coast Guard (CCG) and China’s maritime militia before they deploy elsewhere, harassing shipping of other South China Sea claimants. Satellite imagery taken on Friday shows three CCG ships in the island’s harbor, along with what looks like a barge carrying material or supplies.


    China undertook a massive land reclamation campaign between 2014 and 2016 to create new artificial islands in the South China Sea, destroying the natural environment and militarizing the occupied rocks and reefs.


    Virtually all of China’s occupied features in the South China Sea have had parts dredged up to make way for new settlements and military outposts. But the four biggest bases China maintains in the South China Sea – Subi Reef, Fiery Cross Reef, Mischief Reef, and Woody Island – are virtually unrecognizable since land reclamation was finished in 2017, granting them deep-water harbors, airstrips, and living facilities. But small-scale dredging has continued, as this latest satellite imagery shows.


    Dredging concerns


    The new dredging on Woody Island comes at a sensitive time.


    Last month, Indonesia joined with Vietnam, the Philippines and Malaysia in denouncing China’s sweeping assertion of sovereignty over the entirety of the South China Sea in a series of notes to the United Nations. Indonesia cited a 2016 ruling by the Permanent Court of Arbitration that struck down the legal basis of most of China’s claims to the disputed waters, definitively stating none of China’s ‘islands’ could generate exclusive economic zones and were only rocks.


    More recently, China has tried to intimidate Vietnam, another claimant in the South China Sea, from exploring for oil within its waters with an international partner by sending a government-operated survey vessel into Vietnam’s exclusive economic zone on June 17.


    Vietnam chaired Friday’s virtual summit of ASEAN leaders. All the claimants to the South China Sea were taking part, save for China and Taiwan.


    “While the world is fighting against COVID-19 pandemic, there are irresponsible actions, violating international law, effecting to security environment and stability in some regions, including the ASEAN region,” Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc said in his opening remarks.


    The 10-member ASEAN bloc has struggled to reach a consensus on issues related to the South China Sea, so Friday’s joint statement implicitly criticizing Beijing’s reported plans for an ADIZ was an unusually pointed expression of concern over rising tensions.


    On Sunday, China adopted a revision to its law governing the People’s Armed Police (PAP), a paramilitary branch of its armed services that has been placed under the Central Military Commission alongside the People’s Liberation Army-Navy (PLAN).


    The reform may signal that China wants to beef up the security forces it can draw on to police the South China Sea. The amended law tasks the PAP with “maritime rights enforcement” and allows it to participate in joint exercises with the People’s Liberation Army. The China Coast Guard is a constituent part of the PAP.


    This week, navies of several governments have been on maneuvers in the South China Sea – which is widely viewed as an effort to push back against China’s assertive behavior.


    Japan performed a bilateral training drill with Singapore on Monday, and a bilateral exercise with the United States in the same area on Tuesday. The U.S. and Taiwan both sent maritime patrol aircraft south of Taiwan on Wednesday, seemingly tracking Chinese submarine movements in the area after a submarine was detected by Japan in the East China Sea last week.

    China Resumes Dredging at South China Sea’s Woody Island

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    ASEAN stresses freedom of overflight above South China Sea

    HANOI/SINGAPORE -- Leaders from the Association of Southeast Asian Nations on Friday stressed the importance of "freedom of overflight" over the South China Sea, sending a strong message to China, which has not ruled out imposing an air defense identification zone over the area.


    The leaders, attending a virtual ASEAN summit hosted by Vietnam, also agreed to address public health care challenges by establishing a regional pandemic fund and building reserves of medical supplies. With COVID-19 testing the bloc's resilience and trade ties, they vowed to maintain open and connected supply chains as well.


    The summit comes amid increasingly aggressive moves by Beijing to strengthen its effective control over the South China Sea, after it emerged from the pandemic earlier than the rest of Asia.


    The final version of the chairman's statement reaffirms "the importance of maintaining and promoting peace, security, stability, safety and freedom of navigation and overflight above the South China Sea."


    Air defense identification zones are areas where a country reserves the right to identify aircraft and, if it sees fit, scramble jets to intercept intruders. China in 2013 announced an ADIZ over a vast area of the East China Sea.


    Beijing has been claiming sovereignty over much of the South China Sea. Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian, in a briefing on Monday, insisted that "every country has the right to establish an ADIZ and to decide whether to establish an ADIZ based on the intensity of the threats it faces in air defense security."


    Zhao, implying that a zone over the South China Sea is a possibility, went on to say: "In the light of the air security threats China faces above relevant waters of the South China Sea, China will carefully and prudently study the relevant issue taking into account all factors."


    ASEAN leaders "discussed extensively the recent developments in the region and the world, even pressing issues in the region," Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc told reporters on Friday evening. "Disagreements are unavoidable, but we also call on the parties to exercise self-restraint and avoid acts that further complicate the situation and fully observe international law."


    ASEAN and China have been negotiating a code of conduct for the South China Sea, which they planned to conclude in 2021. But the prime minister said the pandemic has "disrupted and postponed the dialogue for building the COC."


    The summit chairman's statement showed that the leaders also expressed concerns on "the land reclamations, recent developments, activities and serious incidents" in the sea, which "have eroded trust and confidence, increased tensions and may undermine peace, security and stability in the region."


    Vietnam, this year's ASEAN chair, has a more hard-line stance toward China than other members of the bloc. The words "serious incidents," which were not used in last year's chairman's statement spearheaded by Thailand, show a strengthening of the language after Vietnam's recent clashes with Beijing over disputed territory, even though the document did not name China.


    Vietnam's foreign ministry said this month that a Chinese vessel sailed extremely close to a Vietnamese fishing boat near the disputed Paracel Islands, causing waves that knocked crew members and equipment into the water. The Chinese ship rescued the sailors but also took seafood and equipment from the boat.


    This follows an April incident in which a Chinese Coast Guard ship rammed and sank a Vietnamese boat near the Paracels.


    Beijing conducted military drills with the aircraft carrier Liaoning in the South China Sea in mid-April as well. That month also saw China announce the establishment of new administrative districts governing the Paracels and the Spratly Islands, a move protested by Hanoi.


    Indonesia, while not in direct conflict with China over territory, is taking a tougher stance toward Beijing, too. Chinese fishing boats have been operating in waters within Indonesia's exclusive economic zone, in an area claimed under Beijing's "nine-dash line" covering most of the South China Sea. Jakarta sent a letter to the United Nations about the matter in late May.


    The 10-member ASEAN holds summits twice a year. The leaders were supposed to gather in April, but postponed the meeting due to the pandemic, which has been severely impacting the region's economies. Strategies for economic recovery and long-term immunity were high on the agenda on Friday.


    "[ASEAN is] now standing before the opportunities and challenges generated by the global geostrategic shift and the impacts of COVID-19," Vietnamese Prime Minister Phuc said during the opening ceremony.


    A potential resumption of cross-border regional travel is one of top concerns for businesses in the region. Indonesian President Joko Widodo during the summit stressed the need for "ASEAN travel corridors" that would allow essential cross-border business travel to resume, Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi told reporters. "The president said that ASEAN leaders should assign ministers to discuss the ASEAN travel corridors," she said.


    The leaders agreed to promote "e-health care services" in response to growing demand for health care delivered through digital technology and telecommunications, especially during disasters and pandemics.


    With respect to trade, the summit meeting also reaffirmed the importance of implementing free trade agreements and comprehensive economic partnerships between ASEAN and key economies. The statement mentioned India as a major trading partner, alongside China, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and Hong Kong. Trade agreements will contribute to "the post-pandemic recovery and in creating resilient supply chains," the leaders said in the statement.


    At the ASEAN Summit in Bangkok last November, India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi told fellow Asian leaders that India would withdraw from the negotiations to sign up for the 16-nation Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership trade pact.


    For the online summit hosted by Hanoi, leaders reaffirmed plans to keep the negotiations on schedule, while expressing hope that New Delhi will remain in the fold. The chairman's statement says the leaders "look forward to the signing of this agreement by the end of this year."


    "The door to negotiations is open to India," Vietnamese Deputy Foreign Minister Nguyen Quoc Dung told reporters Tuesday.

    ASEAN stresses freedom of overflight above South China Sea -
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    They can create their own ADIZ and they can scramble their aircraft, if they want to be silly little chinkies. But if they expect to do anything else, blow them out of the sky.

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    China Puts Huge Warship at Woody Island Ahead of Naval Exercise





    China has docked what looks to be a Type 071 warship in service with the People’s Liberation Army Navy at Woody Island, China’s main administrative center and military base in the South China Sea’s Paracel Islands.


    The ship will likely be used in in a large-scale naval exercise planned in the area this week. On Saturday, China’s Maritime Safety Administration (MSA) announced a military exercise would take place in the South China Sea from July 1 to 5.


    Satellite imagery seen by RFA shows a ship fitting the profile of the Type 071 (also called the “Yuzhao-class”) sitting in harbor at Woody Island as of June 27. The ship was not there on June 25.


    The Type 071 is a landing platform dock capable of carrying helicopters, a battalion of marines, amphibious vehicles and other cargo for amphibious warfare. It frequently features prominently in military exercises or drills involving the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) and China’s burgeoning Marine Corps (PLANMC).


    Woody Island is China’s biggest outpost and military base in the South China Sea, located in the Paracel archipelago in the region’s northern half.


    The island is disputed between Vietnam, China, and Taiwan, but occupied by China, which has built a settlement there and formally incorporated the artificial island into a local government district that covers the Paracel Islands and Macclesfield Bank. Macclesfield Bank is claimed by the Philippines.


    Woody Island is a frequent stop for the China Coast Guard (CCG) and infamous paramilitary fishing fleets on their way to other parts of the region to assert China’s claim to nearly the entire South China Sea. However, navy warships are rarely seen in Woody’s harbor, and based on RFA's existing satellite imagery this is the first time the Type 071 has shown up there.


    China's military exercise set to take place this week in waters also claimed by Vietnam is nothing unusual, said Greg Poling, director of the Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington-based think tank.


    "But this is part a worrying pattern. China’s provocations in the South China Sea have grown more frequent during the global pandemic, and Beijing seems committed to escalate rather than try to calm things down," he told BenarNews, an RFA-affiliated online news service.


    The docking comes after the United States conducted a massive naval exercise with two aircraft carriers in the Philippine Sea on Sunday.


    “Dual carrier operations demonstrate our commitment to regional allies, our ability to rapidly mass combat power in the Indo-Pacific, and our readiness to confront all those who challenge international norms that support regional stability,” Rear Adm. George Wikoff said in a press release put out by the U.S. Navy.


    The U.S. also conducted a bilateral exercise with Japan last week, and Singapore’s navy conducted training drills with the U.S. and Japan in the South China Sea on June 17 and June 22, respectively.


    The deployment of warships to disputed islets and rocks in the region raises concerns over the ongoing militarization of the South China Sea.


    Following the 36th ASEAN summit on Friday, Vietnam’s Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc, who chaired the meeting, emphasized “the importance of non-militarization and self-restraint in the conduct of all activities by claimants and all other states … that could further complicate the situation and escalate tensions in the South China Sea.”


    The Type 071 is not alone. Satellite imagery shows what looks to be a KJ-500 maritime surveillance plane sitting on Woody’s airstrip.

    Vessel tracking data and satellite imagery show that a ship in service to the MSA, the Hai Xun (“Sea Patrol”) 1110, is also in Woody’s Island other harbor. Three smaller ships that could belong to either the navy or coast guard are right in front of the Type 071’s bow.


    On June 21, China revised a law governing the part of the armed forces that oversees China’s coast guard, instructing it to join in exercises with other branches of the military.

    China Puts Huge Warship at Woody Island Ahead of Naval Exercise

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    The full official statement can be accessed here:

    Chairman’s Statement of the 36th ASEAN Summit 26 June 2020 Cohesive and Responsive ASEAN


    https://asean.org/storage/2020/06/Chairman-Statement-of-the-36th-ASEAN-Summit-FINAL.pdf


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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    China Puts Huge Warship at Woody Island Ahead of Naval Exercise
    Wow.

    One Type 071 a class of Chinese amphibious transport dock ships (armed with one 76 mm gun and four 30 mm close-in weapon systems)


    Attachment 53751



    Looks like the Chinese Navy are confident that this is more than able to counter three ameristani CSG's, (24 nuclear powered/armed warships).

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    Three US Navy aircraft carriers are patrolling the Pacific Ocean at the same time. And China's not happy



    The deployment of three 100,000-ton US Navy aircraft carriers to the Pacific Ocean for the first time in years has drawn swift reaction from China, with state-sponsored media saying Beijing will not back down to defend its interests in the region.The USS Ronald Reagan and the USS Theodore Roosevelt are both patrolling in the western Pacific, while the USS Nimitz is in the east, according to US Navy press releases. With each vessel containing more than 60 aircraft, it represents the biggest deployment of US aircraft carriers in the Pacific since 2017 -- when tensions with North Korea over Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program were at their peak.

    3 US Navy aircraft carriers are patrolling the Pacific. And China's not happy - CNN

    A typical ameristan Carrier Strike Group:

    The Nimitz strike group consisting of:

    One 100,000-ton US Navy aircraft carrier.


    Attachment 53752

    Four
    Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers USS Howard USS Shoup, USS Pinckney, USS Kidd


    Attachment 53754


    One Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Princeton

    Attachment 53755

    2nd US Navy Carrier Strike Group Arrives in Asia Pacific – The Diplomat

    Along with a couple of these:

    Attachment 53757
    I am presuming the other 2 CSGs are similar.
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    Why are the chinkies unhappy? Do they think they own the fucking place or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Do they think they own the fucking place or something
    As much as any other country with "full paperwork".

    Also as MK posted yesterday, they are discussing and hoping to conclude an ASEAN +3 negotiated consensus. One hopes all the group can reach an acceptable decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Why are the chinkies unhappy?
    Don't they know that the 3 US Navy aircraft carriers are there protecting their country national security?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Don't they know that the 3 US Navy aircraft carriers are there protecting their country national security?
    They wouldn't be there without a reason so something must have happened that brought them there.
    Any idea of what that could be?

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    Manila, Hanoi Criticize Beijing over Naval Exercise in South China Sea

    The Philippines and Vietnam on Thursday separately denounced Beijing’s decision to stage naval exercises this week in contested waters of the South China Sea, saying this could deepen international tensions in the strategic waterway.


    China’s launching on Wednesday of five days of drills in waters around the Paracel Islands was “highly provocative,” Philippine Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said, as he noted rising tensions stemming from Beijing’s perceived aggressiveness in the sea region.


    In Hanoi, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said it had lodged a diplomatic note with Beijing to complain about the drills that “seriously violate Vietnam’s sovereignty.”


    The maneuvers began on Wednesday and were expected to run until Sunday. Other ship traffic was to be prohibited in the affected waters, according to Chinese state-run media and a June 27 announcement by the Maritime Safety Administration of Hainan province.


    Although the Philippines has no official territorial claim in the Paracel chain, Lorenzana said the exercises would trigger “alarm bells” for all the claimants in the South China Sea, which Manila calls the West Philippine Sea.


    “Well, that is very concerning. We view that with alarm,” Lorenzana told an online forum on Thursday organized by the National Defense College of the Philippines, where reporters were invited to participate.


    “The Chinese can do theirs in their own territorial waters within their exclusive economic zone,” Lorenzana said, referring to naval exercises. “But if you do it here in contested areas, as I said earlier, then that’s highly provocative.”


    China, Taiwan and Vietnam claim the Paracel Islands. The Philippines, for its part, claims Macclesfield Bank, which lies east of the Paracels, but which China considers part of that chain. Beijing has also included the bank as part of its administrative district named after the Paracels.


    “China’s drills around the Paracel Archipelago seriously violate Vietnam’s sovereignty,” the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a statement issued Thursday.


    The action by Beijing was also detrimental to the relationship between China and ASEAN in their efforts to negotiate a Code of Conduct in the South China Sea, as well as “maintain peace, stability and cooperation” in the maritime region, the ministry said.


    There was no immediate response from China’s government or state-run media to Thursday’s criticism by the Philippines and Vietnam.


    Elsewhere in the sea region China, Taiwan and four members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) – the Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam and Brunei – have competing claims to the Spratly Islands, where Beijing has constructed artificial islands and installed military outposts on atolls.


    “Amid the [COVID-19] pandemic, the tension in the West Philippine Sea continues,” the Philippine defense chief said. “Four years after the Hague ruling that favored the Philippines, the South China Sea region remains … a contested geopolitical space and a potential flashpoint.”


    Lorenzana was referring to a 2016 ruling by the Permanent Court of Arbitration that went in Manila’s favor. President Rodrigo Duterte has never enforced that ruling, and instead has sought closer bilateral ties with China, while distancing the country from the Philippines’ traditional ally, the United States.


    The Duterte administration, however, lately has been voicing its displeasure with Chinese actions in the South China Sea, and has sided with other claimant states including Vietnam. Last year, a Chinese ship sank a Filipino boat in contested waters, leaving 22 Filipino crew members floating at sea until they were rescued by a passing Vietnamese boat.


    More recently, Manila protested China’s creation of two districts in the sea region and the designation of Kagitingan Reef within an administrative region it calls Nansha district.


    “China is the most assertive and aggressive among the claimant states,” Lorenzana said.


    “Recently, there has been a slight increase in the occurrence of incursions and harassment perpetrated by Chinese vessels – both military and civilian – against the Philippine Navy, Philippine Air Force, Philippine Coast Guard and Filipino fishermen,” he said.


    Between August 2019 and early 2020, there had been nearly 20 incidents of harassment in the sea region that involved Chinese military ships, commercial boats and maritime militia, Lorenzana said.


    “Weighing these events, the Philippine government believes that matters of sovereignty can be prudently solved, or best resolved in peaceful and diplomatic channels,” he said.


    During an online meeting of ASEAN leaders hosted by Hanoi last week, both the Philippines and Vietnam were vocal about recent Chinese activities in the South China Sea.


    “Even as our region struggles to contain COVID-19, alarming incidents in the South China Sea occurred,” Duterte said during his speech before ASEAN counterparts on June 26. “We call on parties to refrain from escalating tensions and abide by responsibilities under international law.”

    Manila, Hanoi Criticize Beijing over Naval Exercise in South China Sea

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    As much as any other country with "full paperwork".
    They don't have paperwork, silly.

    They just roll into it and claim they own it.

    Silly chinkies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They don't have paperwork, silly.
    Dere me, I was under the impression that this map has been the subject of many articles in the worlds press for a number of years.

    China 'building runway in disputed South China Sea island'-vertical_qmce-jpg


    So that is one "piece of paper". The WWII Japanese surrender agreement is another "piece of paper", the Cairo Agreement is another "piece of paper", the Potsdam Agreement is another "piece of paper" .......

    All of which assign the area to China.

    One supposes one could request the UK High Court for a ruling as to whether the multiple "pieces of paper" are legitimate.

    Last edited by OhOh; 04-07-2020 at 11:59 AM.

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    So in a thread about the chinkies trying to take over other peoples territory, HooHoo posts a map of Chinastan.

    Silly boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Dere me, I was under the impression that this map has been the subject of many articles in the worlds press for a number of years.
    Yes it has, and the worlds press has been calling it bullshit Chinese propaganda.

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    Any sane and fair person looking at a map like that would think the Chinese were arrogant dreamers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Any sane and fair person looking at a map like that would think the Chinese were arrogant dreamers.
    Maybe they got the idea from baldy orange cunto and his hurricane sharpie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    the worlds press
    One wonders when "the worlds press" became the legal decision-maker on sovereignty.

    For your information my Thai Visa is in my UK passport. But you only have to ask, rather than sinking to sending me a red star.

    Although this image is more outstanding.

    China 'building runway in disputed South China Sea island'-xin_2710032214074862114614-jpg



















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    "Edgar Parks Snow
    was an American journalist known for his books and articles on Communism in China and the Chinese Communist revolution. He was the first western journalist to give a full account of the history of the Chinese Communist Party following the Long March, and he was also the first western journalist to interview many of its leaders, including Mao Zedong. He is best known for his book, Red Star Over China (1937), an account of the Chinese Communist movement from its foundation until the late 1930s."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Snow

    You may wan to read his book.

    https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.52426

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    Or one could read this book.

    Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years'

    Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years' | The Independent

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    I wouldn't be surprised if HooHoo faps over his Little Red Book every night.

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    Jesus Christ, hoho. Posting that map?

    As Latindancer said "any sane person..."

    You're even worse than I imagined. Are you Mao's son?

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    Spratly Islands - Wikipedia

    Don't know if any of you have read up on Wiki ?

    Here it is

    ( I have edited it to my own liking)

    Bon appetit

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Or one could read this book.
    All should be read.

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