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    Send the bill to the thieving chinkies.

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    China accuses US of sowing discord in South China Sea

    BEIJING (AP) — The Trump administration’s rejection of broad Chinese claims to much of the South China Sea came across in Asia as an election-year political move, with some appealing for calm amid fears of greater tensions.


    China accused the U.S. on Tuesday of trying to sow discord between China and the Southeast Asian countries with which it has long-standing territorial disputes in waters that are both a vital international shipping lane and home to valuable fisheries.


    “The United States is not a country directly involved in the disputes. However, it has kept interfering in the issue,” the Chinese Embassy in Washington said on its website. “Under the pretext of preserving stability, it is flexing muscles, stirring up tension and inciting confrontation in the region.”

    Other governments avoided direct comment on the U.S. announcement. The Philippine presidential spokesperson, Harry Roque, noted that the two powers would woo his country as they escalate their rivalry, but “what is important now is to prioritize the implementation and crafting of a code of conduct to prevent tension in that area.”


    U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, in a statement released Monday, said the U.S. now regards virtually all Chinese maritime claims outside its internationally recognized waters to be illegitimate. The new position does not cover land features above sea level, which are considered to be “territorial” in nature.


    Previously, the U.S. had only insisted that maritime disputes between China and its smaller neighbors be resolved peacefully through U.N.-backed arbitration.


    Pompeo’s statement was a major shift in America’s South China Sea policy, said Zhu Feng, the director of a South China Sea studies center at Nanjing University. He said other countries challenging China’s claims may take a more aggressive stance because of America’s openly stated support.


    “The U.S. didn’t use to comment on the sovereignty issue in the South China Sea, because it itself is not a claimant,” Zhu said. “But this time it has made itself into a judge or arbiter. It will bring new instability and tension.”


    He advised against a strong response from China, saying that current U.S. policy is being driven in a significant way by President Donald Trump’s reelection considerations.


    “Trump’s current China policy is insane,” Zhu said. “He is making the China issue the most important topic for his election to cover his failure in preventing the epidemic and to divert public attention. I have no idea how far he will go in fully utilizing the China issue.”


    An Indonesian analyst agreed that the announcement was a political one to divert attention from Trump’s weaknesses at home. A.A. Banyu Perwita, an international relations professor at President University, predicted it would focus more attention on the Indo-Pacific corridor but not have dramatic consequences.


    “It will be not more than a political diplomatic statement,” he said, adding that “we need to make the atmosphere calm now. The best position for all now is the current status quo.”


    James Chin, head of the Asia Institute at the University of Tasmania in Australia, said the U.S. stance was nothing new because it has always rejected China’s “nine-dash line,” as its claim to the South China Sea is known.


    “What is new is that Trump has sort of made the South China Sea a new focus point for his confrontation with China,” he said.


    Both Indonesia and the Philippines joined Pompeo in calling on China to abide by an international arbitration court ruling in 2016 that disqualified many of China’s claims.


    Malaysia’s foreign ministry declined to comment.


    Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian reiterated China’s position that it has had effective jurisdiction over the islands, reefs and waters of the South China Sea for more than 1,000 years.


    He said at a daily briefing Tuesday that China is not seeking to build a maritime empire.


    China’s emergence as a military power and its ambitions to extend its offshore reach have come into conflict with the U.S., which has been the dominant naval power in the western Pacific in the post-World War II period.


    Two U.S. aircraft carriers drilled together in the South China Sea last week in a show of force.


    Zhao, in a lengthy response to Pompeo’s statement, criticized America’s frequent dispatch of “large-scale advanced military vessels and aircraft” to the waters.


    “The U.S. is indeed a troublemaker that undermines regional peace and stability,” he said.

    China accuses US of sowing discord in South China Sea

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    China accused the U.S. on Tuesday of trying to sow discord between China and the Southeast Asian countries with which it has long-standing territorial disputes
    Yes because sinking trawlers, fishing and building in other countries' seas is not going to sow any discord at all.


    Stupid fucking chinkies. They are nearly as dim as trumpanzees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    building in other countries' seas
    Well, isn't the core of the problem, that it isn't any country's sea ?

    Yet

    All claims, or ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    “The U.S. is indeed a troublemaker that undermines regional peace and stability,” he said.
    Uh-huh . . . it's the US that is building bases on islands there and chasing away ships from their own national waters

    So, I still believe the much-vaunted and highly supported Bruneian map be accepted by China




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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I still believe the much-vaunted and highly supported Bruneian map be accepted by China
    As your are aware, all claims were annulled when the "ruler" sent a letter to his acknowledged Chinese Emperor in 977 AD with his annual tribute fleet.

    "One of the earliest Chinese records of an independent kingdom in Borneo is the 977 AD letter to the Chinese emperor from the ruler of Boni, which some scholars believe to refer to Borneo.[2

    "Wendy Hutton (2000). Adventure Guides: East Malaysia. Tuttle Publishing. p. 30. ISBN 978-962-593-180-7."

    In 1225, the Chinese official Zhao Rukuo reported that Boni had 100 warships to protect its trade, and that there was great wealth in the kingdom.[26]"


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunei#Early_history

    He who invented paper and organised the storage of annual accounts, has a distinct advantage over a, here today gone tomorrow momentarily "highly supported", brute.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    As your are aware, all claims were annulled when the "ruler" sent a letter to his acknowledged Chinese Emperor in 977 AD with his annual tribute fleet.
    Nope, you're just making shit up again

    This map clearly shows the rights that Brunei has over its territories:


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    South China Sea: Malaysia Urges Nations to Stand Down from ‘Military Posturing’

    Malaysia on Wednesday called for countries to refrain from “military posturing” amid tensions in the South China Sea, two days after Washington announced a tougher stance on Beijing’s territorial claims in the contested waterway.


    Malaysian Foreign Minister Hishammuddin Hussein called for cooperation among Southeast Asian nations in solving tensions in the maritime region as he made his first public comments on the South China Sea in nearly three months.


    “We have to avoid military posturing as it is not going to help in solving the problem, and we need all the ASEAN countries to agree on that … Right now we seem to be on the same page and that’s the only way we can face off with China and the U.S.,” he said during a news conference about a range of issues on the sidelines of a parliamentary session in Kuala Lumpur.


    “Malaysia is too small to be able to find solution to this on our own.”


    In recent weeks, both China and the United States have conducted naval exercises or maneuvers in the South China Sea. In early July, the U.S. Navy sailed two aircraft carrier groups into the waterway after China’s navy staged an exercise in the Paracel Islands.


    On Monday, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo declared that the world would not allow Beijing to treat the contested waterway as “its maritime empire,” and Washington stood with its Southeast Asian allies “in protecting their sovereign rights to offshore resources.”


    The next day, Beijing shot back. Its embassy to the United States accused Washington of continuing to “interfere” in the South China Sea issue and “stirring up tension and inciting confrontation in the region” as well as flexing its muscles “under the pretext of preserving stability.”


    Malaysia and three other member-states of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) bloc – the Philippines, Vietnam and Brunei – along with China and Taiwan have contending claims in the sea region, where Beijing has been building artificial islands and military installations in areas it occupies.


    “[M]y stand is very clear we will not compromise of our sovereignty, the geopolitics of [the] superpower [rivalry] between the U.S. and China, that is for them to settle and it is not a simple matter. It is a very complex matter,” said Hishammuddin, who became Malaysia’s top diplomat after the Periktan Haripan government took power in early March.


    The new government has kept relatively quiet on the South China Sea issue, even as international tensions rose in or near Malaysian territorial waters in April after a Chinese survey ship deployed close to a Malaysian-contracted oil exploration vessel, the West Capella. The Chinese ship was escorted by ships from the China Coast Guard. In response, the United States and Australia sent warships to the area.


    At the time, Malaysia’s coast guard said it was monitoring the survey ship’s movements, but it had “not done any activities that break the laws.”


    A few days later, Hishammuddin issued a statement saying that territorial issues in the sea region should be solved peacefully based on the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).


    On Wednesday, he echoed a comment he made back in April by saying he feared that military posturing could lead to “incidents or accidents happening on the high seas that [could] end up in war.”


    At the news conference, the foreign minister also said that “there are no more China ships in our waters,” when a reporter asked him about an auditor-general’s newly published report, which revealed that Chinese navy or coast guard ships had intruded into Malaysian waters off Borneo Island 89 times between 2016 and 2019.


    Despite the latest comments by the foreign minister, vessel tracking data shows that Chinese ships have been intruding into Malaysia’s exclusive economic zone for months.


    The China Coast Guard (CCG) vessel 5204 was patrolling around the Luconia Shoals, from May 22 to July 7, according to the data. China claims the shoals, which sits within 200 nautical miles (370 km) off Malaysia’s coast, as part of its territory.


    The Chinese ship was subsequently replaced by CCG vessel 5202, which sailed into Luconia Shoals on the same day that the 5204 left. The 5202 was still in the area as of Wednesday morning.


    However, while responding to a follow-up question from a reporter, Hishammuddin acknowledged that both Chinese and American ships had been in Malaysian waters recently.


    “Yes, they were there and the U.S. was ship was also there. So what do we do? In that sort of situation we just have to make sure that … they don’t collide and they don’t stay in our waters. That’s the best diplomacy that we can do,” he said.

    https://www.benarnews.org/english/ne...020152750.html

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    Here is a simple diagram of the marine zones off a coastal country, indicated which ones are exclusive and which ones can be utilised, for various activities, by foreign ships.

    China 'building runway in disputed South China Sea island'-sovereign-waters-jpg

    Schematic map of maritime zones (aerial view).

    Explanations of what foreign ships are permitted by UNCLOS to do, in those waters, is also explained.

    Territorial waters - Wikipedia

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Chinese navy or coast guard ships had intruded into Malaysian waters off Borneo Island 89 times between 2016 and 2019.

    Despite the latest comments by the foreign minister, vessel tracking data shows that Chinese ships have been intruding into Malaysia’s exclusive economic zone for months.

    The China Coast Guard (CCG) vessel 5204 was patrolling around the Luconia Shoals, from May 22 to July 7, according to the data. China claims the shoals, which sits within 200 nautical miles (370 km) off Malaysia’s coast, as part of its territory.

    The Chinese ship was subsequently replaced by CCG vessel 5202, which sailed into Luconia Shoals on the same day that the 5204 left. The 5202 was still in the area as of Wednesday morning.
    Let's be quite sure what the "foreign" ships have been doing there, prior to accusations of "intrusions", "patrolling around" or "still in the area" as reported by the ameristani regime funded source, of MK's post.

    Let's not also not forget the ASEAN + 3 organisation, is currently drawing up "acceptable" management procedures. Which they suggest will be completed this year. One hopes they complete the negotiations prior to any non ASEAN + 3 countries creating any further disturbances.
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    The only ones creating a disturbance are the thieving fucking chinkies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Let's be quite sure
    Yes, lets . . . this is the historical map that should be followed - historical, factual:


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    Yes, that seems like an excellent idea. And fairer than the chinky "We'll just take whatever we like" solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And fairer than the chinky "We'll just take whatever we like" solution.
    I agree. After all, historical maps are to be venerated and followed

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    South China Sea: 8 Chinese Fighter Jets Visible at Woody Island

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    Eight Chinese fighter jets were visible Friday at its key military base in the disputed Paracel Islands as two U.S. aircraft carriers performed their second exercise in the South China Sea in two weeks amid mounting tensions between Washington and Beijing.


    Satellite imagery reviewed by BenarNews showed the Chinese planes on the runway at Woody Island. At least four of them appeared to J-11Bs, which are fighter jets in service with the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) and Naval Aviation Force (PLANAF). The other four appear to be a slightly different model of fighter aircraft.


    Analysts said it was the most fighter aircraft that have been spotted at one time at Woody Island, which is China’s largest military base and settlement in the Paracels, a grouping of features in the north of the South China Sea that is claimed by China, Vietnam, and Taiwan. Military aircraft have shown up at Woody Island before, as have Chinese warships, most notably during China’s military exercises in the area from July 1 to 5.


    Forbes reported the presence of four J-11Bs at Woody Island on Wednesday, but they were not in the same place on Thursday. They reappeared with four other fighter aircraft on Friday.


    Their presence points to growing militarization of Chinese-occupied features in the South China Sea, and increased displays of military power by both China and the U.S.


    It also coincides with another round of naval exercises Thursday involving two U.S. aircraft carrier battle groups – the USS Nimitz and USS Ronald Reagan. The first maneuvers began on July 4 and lasted six days, the first such “dual carrier drill” by the U.S. in the South China Sea in at least four years.


    “Alongside like-minded regional partners, these efforts are in direct support of U.S. resolve to fly, sail, and operate wherever international law allows,” said Vice Adm. William R. Merz, commander of the U.S. Navy’s 7th Fleet, in a statement.


    “The capability and flexibility of our Navy is on full display as we support Indo-Pacific security and stability. There is no better example of our regional commitment, and periodically we will bring multiple teams together in 7th Fleet to practice large-scale coordinated operations.”


    The maneuvers also come after the U.S. performed a freedom of navigation exercise on Wednesday through the Spratly Islands, which China considers part of its territory on the basis of “historic rights.”

    China’s position challenged


    That followed U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s announcement this week of a new U.S. position on China’s expansive claims in the South China Sea, calling China’s claims to low-tide elevations in the Spratlys and to the waters around land features in the area “illegal” under international law.


    David Stilwell, the top U.S. diplomat for East Asia, then signaled that the U.S. was considering sanctions against Chinese companies responsible for building China’s bases such as Woody Island in disputed waters.


    China’s Foreign Ministry issued a stern response to that threat on Wednesday, and said it will “continue firmly upholding our sovereignty, security and legitimate rights and interests.”


    “We hope the U.S. will not go further down the erroneous path,” ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said at a press conference in Beijing. “It should behave like a major country and play a constructive role for regional peace and stability.”


    Zack Cooper, a research fellow at the Washington-based American Enterprise Institute, said China could be using the U.S. military maneuvers and policy shift as a pretext for what they planned to do anyway – deploying a more permanent fighter aircraft presence to Woody Island.


    “I think the Chinese are probably using this [U.S. approach to the South China Sea this week] as an excuse to put the fighter jets on these island, as they always intended to, and they think this is a good time to do it where they can try and argue that the United States is to blame,” Cooper said in an interview. He cited the presence of hangers on Woody Island, which were constructed years ago seemingly for the purpose of housing fighter aircraft.


    Regional countries are concerned about the heightened tension in the South China Sea. Malaysia’s Foreign Minister Hishammuddin Hussein expressed concern over the “military posturing” of both the U.S. and China in a press conference Wednesday, and the head of Indonesia’s coastguard mentioned the growing rivalry between the U.S. and China in a meeting with the Coordinating Minister of Political, Legal, and Security Affairs this week.


    “I don’t think that this is likely to lead to some sort of direct conflict,” Cooper said. “I do think it’s a clear sign that Beijing is going to use this as an opportunity to bolster its presence in the region.”

    South China Sea: 8 Chinese Fighter Jets Visible at Woody Island
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    I doubt anyone will worry too much, chinky Sukhoi knock-offs and bits will fall off them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Sukhoi knock-offs
    Knockdown plywood I am informed. 6 jets per 13m x 4m container.

    Fake jets for display. Underwater sub pens, 4 per island invisible. That coral is pretty soft to dig through.



    If only they had taken some photos a few kms offshore, they may have spotted some Chinese sub's periscopes:

    The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

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    "American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

    By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

    According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy."


    The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced | Daily Mail Online

    and here:

    Nightmare: The U.S. Navy Fears This Submarine Could Sink Its Aircraft Carriers | The National Interest
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    The scariest job in the world must be Chinky Submariner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The scariest job in the world must be Chinky Submariner.
    . . . or Russian . . . same shit, different flag

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    Five Australian warships are conducting military exercises in the Philippine Sea alongside the American and Japanese navies, amid simmering regional security tensions with China.

    An Australian Joint Task Group, led by HMAS Canberra, has joined up with the USS Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group and a Japanese destroyer for a "trilateral exercise" ahead of larger-scale war games in Hawaii.


    Australia joins United States and Japan in naval exercise as concerns grow over China - ABC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Five Australian warships are conducting military exercises in the Philippine Sea alongside the American and Japanese navies, amid simmering regional security tensions with China.
    ...I wonder when certain ASEAN navies will also join such maneuvers to defend their joint backyard...after all, Thailand could contribute an aircraft carrier (currently a museum) and a submarine (bought, but as yet unmanned)...

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    After US Toughens South China Sea Stance, China Deploys More Survey Ships

    Multiple Chinese survey ships have intruded into the exclusive economic zones of other South China Sea claimant states since the United States resolved last week to help safeguard the resource rights of Southeast Asian nations facing pressure from China.


    Vessel tracking data and satellite imagery analyzed by BenarNews shows six survey vessels owned directly or indirectly by the Chinese government are currently in the South China Sea: the Hai Yang Di Zhi 12, the Hai Yang Di Zhi 4, the Tan Suo 1, the Tan Suo 2, Shiyan-1, and the Shen Kuo.


    Some of the deployments began several weeks ago, but several of the ships have entered into the waters of neighboring countries in the days since Secretary of State Mike Pompeo issued a strongly worded statement July 13, where he declared most of China’s maritime claims in the disputed South China Sea to be illegal. That marked an escalation of a war of words between the two world powers as their relations deteriorate.


    On Tuesday, U.S. Secretary of Defense Mark Esper accused Beijing of engaging in “systematic rule-breaking, coercion and other malign activities.” He was speaking at an online forum hosted by the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London.


    The Hai Yang Di Zhi 12 and 4 are in service with China’s geological survey agency, under the Ministry of Land and Natural Resources. The Hai Yang 12 commenced a survey close to the disputed Scarborough Shoal on July 15, two days after Pompeo stated that China “cannot lawfully assert a maritime claim” to the waters around the feature since it sits within the Philippines’ 200 nautical mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ) and continental shelf.


    As of Tuesday morning, the ship was about 50 nautical miles from Scarborough Shoal, accompanied by China Coast Guard (CCG) ship 3102.


    The Hai Yang 4 appears to have been in or near Vietnam’s EEZ for the past month. It entered on June 16, and has come and gone since then, but was back in place around July 16 and was inside the EEZ on July 17, vessel tracking data shows.

    Meanwhile, another survey ship, the Shen Kuo was roughly 100 nautical miles off the coast of Sabah, Malaysia, on Tuesday morning, data shows, and about 80 nautical miles from the coast of the Philippines. That ship is a deep-sea scientific research vessel owned and operated by Shanghai-based Rainbow Fish Ocean Technology Co., Ltd.


    The Shiyan-1 has been conducting a survey over a broad swathe of the Paracel Islands, an archipelago of rocks and reefs in the northern half of the South China Sea, according to ship-tracking data. After leaving Guangzhou on June 25, the survey ships came within 141 nautical miles of the Philippine coastline on July 6, and came within 100 nautical miles of Vietnam’s coast on July 16. Since that time, it’s appeared to have started a survey straddling nearly 330 nautical miles across the Paracels.


    The Shiyan-1 is operated by the institute for underwater acoustics, within the Chinese Academy of Sciences, according to the International Maritime Organization database. Notably, it was expelled from the Eastern Indian Ocean by India’s navy back in December 2019 under suspicion of mapping the topography of the ocean floor for military purposes.


    Other Chinese survey vessels are currently in disputed waters in the South China Sea but have not yet entered any country’s EEZ. The Tan Suo 1 and Tan Suo 2, both operated by the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Deep-sea Science and Engineering, are currently just south of the Paracels. The Tan Suo 1 arrived there on July 9, with the Tan Suo 2 joining it on July 17.


    The United States has struck a more strident tone on the South China Sea issue in the past week, shifting from its previous established position and calling China’s expansive maritime claims “unlawful” under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) and under a landmark 2016 Permanent Court of Arbitration award in a case brought by the Philippines against China.


    The U.S. has also said China’s claims violate the rights of Southeast Asian nations to explore for resources within their borders.


    On Tuesday, Esper said that the Chinese Communist Party “has bullied ASEAN nations out of an estimated 2.6 trillion dollars in potential offshore oil and gas revenue, and not to mention fishing grounds that millions of people depend on for their livelihoods.” ASEAN refers to the 10-nation Association of Southeast Asian Nations, which includes South China Sea claimants Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines and Vietnam.


    He also noted China’s recent military exercises in the South China Sea, saying China’s armed forces were simulating an “island seizure” campaign. Last week, the People’s Liberation Army drills involved JH-7 anti-ship fighter-bombers deployed to Woody Island, one of China’s largest artificial islands and its main military base in the Paracels area.


    Beijing hits back


    Chinese state media has intimated that those exercises were in response to recent drills in the South China Sea by two U.S. aircraft carriers, the first such drill in at least four years.


    The Chinese government has responded sternly to recent U.S. diplomatic statements and its military maneuvers with allies, accusing Washington of being a “destroyer of regional peace and stability.” At the same time, China has played up its recent efforts to negotiate with other South China Sea claimants.


    China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi held talks with his Philippine counterpart last Wednesday. “Both sides reaffirmed that contentious maritime issues are not the sum total of the Philippines-China bilateral relationship,” a statement from the Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs said.


    And on Tuesday, Vietnam and China held talks where they discussed the South China Sea and agreed to step up negotiations over a Code of Conduct, according to the Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The code under negotiation between ASEAN and China that would govern behavior in the South China Sea. It is set to be finished in 2021, although progress has been delayed and set-back multiple times.


    One obstacle to meeting that deadline is that China frequently sends coastguard and survey vessels into the waters of its neighbors, in areas where it insists on having sovereignty over. This is widely seen as a ploy to assert Beijing’s sweeping maritime claims and prevent other nations from exploring for oil and gas unless in partnership with China.


    Japan protested a Chinese survey near Okinotorishima on Monday according to the Associated Press, stating it did not give permission to the vessel to operate in the area.


    China owns and operates the largest fleet of survey ships in the world, and launched a new addition to the “Shiyan-series” of deep sea research vessels this past weekend, called the Shiyan-6.

    After US Toughens South China Sea Stance, China Deploys More Survey Ships

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    Australian ships confronted by Chinese navy in South China Sea

    The Chinese navy has confronted Australian warships in the South China Sea during a voyage that saw them sail close to contested islands claimed by Beijing.

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    Key points:

    The ships were en route to exercises with the US and Japan
    The ADF says all unexpected encounters are handled professionally
    Last year the Navy was closely followed by the Chinese military during a similar transit of the South China Sea

    The ABC has learnt an Australian Defence Force joint task group consisting of five warships last week travelled through the disputed waterways, including close to the Spratly Islands, which China claims as its own.

    It is understood the Australian warships did not come within 12 nautical miles of the contested islands, unlike American warships, which have recently conducted freedom of navigation exercises to challenge Beijing's territorial claims.

    In a statement, Defence insisted all "unplanned interactions with foreign warships throughout the deployment were conducted in a safe and professional manner".

    The Australian warships, led by HMAS Canberra, were transiting through the increasingly tense region as they made their way to the Philippine Sea for training exercises with the American and Japanese navies.

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    Soon HMAS Canberra, HMAS Hobart, HMAS Stuart, HMAS Arunta and HMAS Sirius will arrive in Hawaii for larger military war games known as RIMPAC.
    A man in a navy uniform and life jacket stands beside a rocket launcher on a ship.
    China's warships have been keeping a close eye on vessels in the South China Sea.(Reuters: Akhtar Soomro)

    "Australia is committed to a secure, open, prosperous and resilient Indo-Pacific region. We routinely work with regional partners to address shared security challenges," a Defence spokesperson said.

    "Activities conducted during this routine deployment are part of the Australian Defence Force's regular military-to-military engagements throughout the Indo-Pacific, which are conducted each year."

    It is not known precisely where the Chinese military interacted with the Australian joint task group, but Defence has confirmed the warships last week sailed near the disputed Spratly Islands.

    Last year the Royal Australian Navy was closely followed by the Chinese military during a similar transit of the South China Sea.

    US Defence Secretary Mark Esper this week signalled the American military would conduct more freedom of navigation operations (FONOPS) to challenge Beijing's territorial claims in the South China Sea.

    "In 2019 we conducted the greatest number of freedom of navigation operations in the South China Sea in the 40-year history of the FONOPS program, and we will keep up the pace this year," he said.

    https://www.abc. net.au/news/2020-07-23/australian-warships-confronted-by-chinese-navy-south-china-sea/12481514

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    The Chinese navy has confronted Australian warships in the South China Sea
    Propaganda Headline, from a vassal mouthpiece:

    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    https://www.abc. net.au/news/2020-07-23/australian-warships-confronted-by-chinese-navy-south-china-sea/12481514
    For those who chose not to read beyond the fake headline:

    Factual

    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Australian Defence Force
    statements.

    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    the Australian warships did not come within 12 nautical miles of the contested islands
    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    "unplanned interactions with foreign warships throughout the deployment were conducted in a safe and professional manner"
    All ships can transit a countries economic zones, even warships. UNCLOS is your friend.

    "Article 24 Duties of the coastal State

    1. The coastal State shall not hamper the innocent passage of foreign ships through the territorial sea except in accordance with this Convention. In particular, in the application of this Convention or of any laws or regulations adopted in conformity with this Convention, the coastal State shall not:

    (a) impose requirements on foreign ships which have the practical effect of denying or impairing the right of innocent passage; or

    (b) discriminate in form or in fact against the ships of any State or against ships carrying cargoes to, from or on behalf of any State.

    2. The coastal State shall give appropriate publicity to any danger to navigation, of which it has knowledge, within its territorial sea."

    "Article 25 Rights of protection of the coastal State

    1. The coastal State may take the necessary steps in its territorial sea to prevent passage which is not innocent.

    2. In the case of ships proceeding to internal waters or a call at a port facility outside internal waters, the coastal State also has the right to take the necessary steps to prevent any breach of the conditions to which admission of those ships to internal waters or such a call is subject.

    3. The coastal State may, without discrimination in form or in fact among foreign ships, suspend temporarily in specified areas of its territorial sea the innocent passage of foreign ships if such suspension is essential for the protection of its security, including weapons exercises. Such suspension shall take effect only after having been duly published."

    "SUBSECTION C.

    RULES APPLICABLE TO WARSHIPS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT SHIPS OPERATED FOR NON-COMMERCIAL PURPOSES

    Article 29 Definition of warships

    For the purposes of this Convention, "warship" means a ship belonging to the armed forces of a State bearing the external marks distinguishing such ships of its nationality, under the command of an officer duly commissioned by the government of the State and whose name appears in the appropriate 35 service list or its equivalent, and manned by a crew which is under regular armed forces discipline.

    Article 30 Non-compliance by warships with the laws and regulations of the coastal State

    If any warship does not comply with the laws and regulations of the coastal State concerning passage through the territorial sea and disregards any request for compliance therewith which is made to it, the coastal State may require it to leave the territorial sea immediately.

    Article 31 Responsibility of the flag State for damage caused by a warship or other government ship operated for non-commercial purposes

    The flag State shall bear international responsibility for any loss or damage to the coastal State resulting from the non-compliance by a warship or other government ship operated for non-commercial purposes with the laws and regulations of the coastal State concerning passage through the territorial sea or with the provisions of this Convention or other rules of international law.

    Article 32 Immunities of warships and other government ships operated for non-commercial purposes

    With such exceptions as are contained in subsection A and in articles 30 and 31, nothing in this Convention affects the immunities of warships and other government ships operated for non-commercial purposes."

    http://www.un.org/Depts/los/conventi...s/unclos_e.pdf


    The countries in red are non parties. Some of them utilise UNCLOS, but don't recognise any obligations themselves, and thus fail to adhere to the UNCLOS agreement.

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    Don't be silly hoohoo ,we know the chinkies are always taking their tubs up to the opposition to see what proper warships look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    taking their tubs up to the opposition
    More like warning super tankers in the area, to watch out for unattended warships and reduce the potential of polluting the environment.

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