Thread: China 'building runway in disputed South China Sea island'

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by Klondyke
Ukraine extended Russia's lease of the naval facilities under the 2010 Kharkiv Pact in exchange for further discounted natural gas.

Originally Posted by lom

but Russia was not happy having only a lease so they took Crimea..

Actually, the Ukrainians were not happy with the cheap gas only. So, they wanted another "tenant" in Crimea - US Naval Base (anybody naive enough to hope that such "tenant" would pay a lease? - and naive enough that it was Ukraine who decided about the new "tenant"?)...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You need a court to tell you that?

Nah; it was about Diego Garcia

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Actually, the Ukrainians were not happy with the cheap gas only. So, they wanted another "tenant" in Crimea - US Naval Base

That is not something I remember and I find it quite unbelievable, nothing I read then and nothing I've googled now mentions that.
Sources! Links!

Originally Posted by lom

Sources! Links!

This is Klondyke . . . are you serious?

A ameristan tender call for re development of the base might be productive.

Originally Posted by lom

That is not something I remember and I find it quite unbelievable, nothing I read then and nothing I've googled now mentions that.
Sources! Links!

Do you truly believe that the media you are frequenting will tell you that?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Do you truly believe that the media you are frequenting will tell you that?

So, the media you frequent would

Any more stooopid comment you could not think of? (just anything, but a comment...)

The state that keeps frozen over 50 years documents of various assassinations from reasons of "National Security" - despite the Freedom of Information Law - will hand on your nose the blueprints of the Naval Base in Crimea, shown it on the first page of the "recognized" MSM?

(just have a look on the map of current Navy bases around the world - kept there at the enemy's gates from the reasons of "National Security"...

Originally Posted by lom

That is not something I remember and I find it quite unbelievable, nothing I read then and nothing I've googled now mentions that.
Sources! Links!

Ukraine wanted to join NATO, to protect itself against Putin's expansionist policies.

Had it done so, it's unlikely Putin would have done what he did.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Any more stooopid comment

You never run out, so yes.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Had it done so, it's unlikely Putin would have done what he did.

Agreed. Putin is like a typical bully . . . if the going gets too tough he'll fold

Originally Posted by panama hat

if the going gets too tough he'll fold

Unlike those who belive that, killing 100,000/s children "worth it".

Gotcha. Evil murdering scum - good, walking away from a solvable problem - bad.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Ukraine wanted to join NATO, to protect itself against Putin's expansionist policies.

Yes I know that but there was never any discussion about letting US or NATO have a naval base at Crimea

Originally Posted by lom

Yes I know that but there was never any discussion about letting US or NATO have a naval base at Crimea

It's just another Klondyke/OhOh brainfart

Originally Posted by OhOh

Unlike those who belive that, killing 100,000/s children "worth it".

You're quite correct, more like millions in Russia since 1917

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Ukraine wanted to join NATO, to protect itself against Putin's expansionist policies.

Master of demagogy has an explanation for any situation, drafting his own history textbook...

Originally Posted by OhOh

Unlike those who belive that, killing 100,000/s children "worth it".

Gotcha. Evil murdering scum - good, walking away from a solvable problem - bad.

HooHoo conveniently forgets how many Syrians have died (let alone refugees) from Putin propping up a murderous dictator.

Or the 25,000 in Grozny.

Not to mention the numerous journalists and activists he's had killed.

This is what Putin brown nosers do.

^And not to forget Stalin's millions...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Ukraine wanted to join NATO, to protect itself against Putin's expansionist policies.

With these local puppets.

Whooooo Hoohoo found a youtube video that agrees with his outlandish theories.

What a fucking surprise that is.

Originally Posted by lom

Yes I know that but there was never any discussion about letting US or NATO have a naval base at Crimea

Just curious

How would you know ?

And why not ?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

This is what Putin brown nosers do.

Just because Putin is an arsehole, it doesn't make the Ukranians angels.

It would ofcourse be a simpler world, if it did

^Do you truly believe that it's a choice of Ukrainians?

BTW, currently a deafening silence from Ukraine. How long will it take till the new Trump's man will discover some (not so surprising) news, timely publicized before November?

Originally Posted by helge

Just because Putin is an arsehole, it doesn't make the Ukranians angels.

It would ofcourse be a simpler world, if it did

Ukraine didn't invade Russia, you idiot.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Ukraine didn't invade Russia, you idiot.

Unlike vice versa...(However, when Ukraine not a proud member of NATO, then too bad... no one to help them...)

But the weaponry they have to buy anyway, as any other member of NATO ...


Ukraine Says The US Is Holding Up $30M Worth Of Guns And Ammo — And It Wants Its Money Back
Final approval for six arms deals worth roughly $30 million has been held up for more than a year, and Ukraine has no idea why, four officials told

The Trump administration is currently withholding approval for at least six commercial orders for arms and ammunition from US companies to Ukraine, together worth roughly $30 million, according to three current Ukrainian officials and a former senior US official who have direct knowledge of the sales, straining an already fragile relationship between the two countries. All four officials said that five of the pending sales from US companies have been delayed for around a year, and one of the sales has been held up for more than a year. The officials said they haven’t been able to get any answers from the Trump administration about why the deals, which typically take around two months to approve and must be licensed by the State Department, haven’t received approval.

“It might be wise for the Ukrainians to look for other sources” from which to buy arms and ammunition, said the US official, who said he has questioned senior White House and State Department officials about the issue. He said he received only a cryptic response from both that the sales are still being “evaluated,” despite the Ukrainians already putting money down on them.

The US Embassy in Kyiv declined to comment on the matter, and the White House and State Department did not respond to requests for comments. Ukroboronprom, the Ukrainian state-owned arms conglomerate and the official buyer of all the arms and ammunition, also didn’t respond when asked for comment.

Two Ukrainian officials who spoke to BuzzFeed News believe the delays could be related to a Chinese attempt to buy a strategic Ukrainian aerospace company that the US has tried to block, raising the possibility of Kyiv getting caught up in a power play between Beijing and Washington.

Ukraine Says The US Is Holding Up $30M Worth Of Commercial Arms Sales

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Unlike vice versa

Correct. Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed part of its territory.


Similar to when you had your lobotomy and part of your brain was removed

^You could surely do better, something like your Maestro Demagogy...

Or learning more from other big guys:


‘You talk like Goebbels’: Global Times editor-in-chief shoots back at Pompeo’s parallels between China & Nazi Germany
7 Jun, 2020

The editor-in-chief of a major Chinese tabloid slammed Mike Pompeo for comparing his country to Nazi Germany, likening his words to those of Hitler’s propaganda chief and reminding the secretary of state of America’s endless wars.

Hu Xijin took to Twitter on Sunday venting his anger about Mike Pompeo’s remarks.

“You are inciting radical hostility and ripping the world apart. You aren't like a top diplomat, instead, you talk like Goebbels of Nazi Germany. I’m worried that world peace will eventually be destroyed by extreme politicians like you,” he wrote.

The explosive remarks on China were made by Pompeo on Saturday when he spoke with the Daily Caller on the 76th anniversary of D-Day – the Allied landing operation in Nazi-occupied France back in 1944. The top US diplomat drew parallels between “the promises that the Chinese Communist Party had made in their treaty with the United Kingdom that they broke” and promises broken “back when Germany advanced against the rest of Europe.”

Hu’s response was further reinforced by a large editorial released by the Global Times later on Sunday. Pompeo’s remarks have “crossed the bottom line of modern-day diplomacy,” the piece reads, highlighting the extreme double standards the US practices in regard to Hong Kong – and its own internal troubles.

“When rioters set Hong Kong on fire, US politicians called that a ‘beautiful sight to behold,’ but when similar incidents swept the US, the same group of politicians decried them as riots that should be quelled. Have Pompeo and his peers realized that their country is using up its resources and chances to play such double-standard tricks?”

Moreover, the US is certainly not the country to compare others to Nazi Germany, given the perpetual wars it has been waging all across the globe, as well as its continuous efforts to undermine any international cooperation, the editorial noted.

“China hasn't engaged in a war with any foreign country for 32 years. But in the same period, how many wars have been launched by the US? From Panama and Haiti in Central America to Iraq and Afghanistan in Asia, to Somali in Africa, and to Kosovo in Europe, US troops have left bullet-holes.” the article reads.

https://www.rt.com/news/491131-pompeo-goebbels-china-nazi/