Thread: China 'building runway in disputed South China Sea island'

Originally Posted by Latindancer

^^ I suspect a lot of the very cheap stuff we buy from China has been made in Gulags.

They also make great organ donors.

Prisoners want to make up for the miss-achievement toward they beloved communist party, and are willing to donor without being forced of course.
Now thats what I call giving your heart and blood for your country. Made in China

China has been killing turtles, coral and giant clams in the South China Sea, tribunal finds

First China dams the Mekong, screwing up fishing in the delta (not to mention upstream) , now this.

Originally Posted by Baas Babelaas

we send in the 50 year old AIDS-ridden ladyboys to rip you apart, and cum on your face.

You are projecting your fantasies again.

Originally Posted by bsnub

And you think a nation rife with slave labour is doing this

Care to name a country where the "slave" labour is not rife and abused?



You do realise those medals are solid gold.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

I suspect a lot of the very cheap stuff we buy from China has been made in Gulags

Maybe you need to raise your standards of what you swap your hard earned cash for. No demand, no profit, easy as that. Whilst people continue to buy crap somebody will produce it, make a profit and laugh at you, all the way to the gold shop.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Chinese cancer spreading from the mainland to the islands !

Of course China has problems to solve, which country doesn't, care to list them all. At least China is improving it's infrastructure. Many countries with alleged "shovel ready jobs" don't seem so inclined. Improvements in China or increasing devastation in others. Take your pick as to which you prefer.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

ow thats what I call giving your heart and blood for your country.

Nothing new in organ harvesting, some countries have been practising it for years. Some were told they were going to a holiday camp, some were prisoners of war, some chose that route for their next fix of heroin whilst others donated their sperm for "the goodness of the gene pool" and money for tuition fees. You are implying the Chinese donors have a choice. Say that to those who historically didn't.

This is some fucking Chines bot you have here or a simple non-educated Englishman.

I know, it hurts you either way doesn't it.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Compare that result to Ameristan and Europe. Stagnation, depression, austerity, fraud, corruption, invasion, genocide, lies and bullying. You want it you can keep it.

And just where in the Chinese Paradise do you make your home.

My current "paradise" is Trat province - currently pissing down with rain, Thailand. But China, Japan and Malaysia have had the comfort of my presence in the past decade or so.

The Chinese buy a large % of it's agricultural products - fruits, rubber ....., apparently. Without them a collapse of the Thai rural economy is possible.

The piper calls the tune. As such we should all be happy that they want to buy any countries produce, rather than placing sanctions on any foreign country illegally - by international laws and agreements, as some do.

Luckily Chinese gold bars are still legal tender here. My local gold shops have no problems buying or selling them.

Arms Spending May Rise as Beijing Asserts Control in South China Sea

BEIJING—
China is expected to increase its military investment in the South China Sea and significantly raise its overall defense spending to affirm its claim to the region.

The People's Liberation Army's Navy (PLAN) commissioned a new guided-missile destroyer, Yinchuan, on Tuesday, the day the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) at The Hague ruled that China's claims to most of the South China Sea are invalid. The tribunal, constituted under the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Seas (UNCLOS), ruled in favor of the Philippines, which had complained that China was claiming part of its territory.

The next day, China tested two new airfields it has built in the Nansha islands in the South China Sea. State media showed civilian flights taking off from the airfields to further legitimize China's control over that part of the sea. It established four light houses in the sea a few days earlier.

China has already spent a massive amount of money to rapidly build artificial islands as well as residential facilities for workers and government crews on the islands. The country has also put a floating hospital to sea and launched several submarines in the area in recent months.

Military preparedness

"This trend in militarizing the South China Sea is expected to continue and indeed expand following the PCA ruling," said Lee YingHui, research analyst at Singapore’s Institute of Defense and Strategic Studies.

The People's Liberation Army assured the nation ahead of the ruling that it stood ready to meet any challenge from the South China Sea. "The Chinese military has never been frightened," PLA spokesman Yang Yujun said in a news briefing.

Yang said that if foreign warships want to "make trouble out of nothing" in the South China Sea, then "of course we have ways to deal with it."

Some regional analysts think China has no need to be worried about any challenge in the key shipping and fishing region.

"China will continue to have relative military supremacy in the South China Sea for a long time to come, given the desolate state of the Philippine navy," Lee said.

"PLAN also enjoys home ground advantage over the U.S. navy in the South China Sea," Lee said, referring to the U.S. naval presence that, some believe, emboldened Manila to file the arbitration claim against the Asian superpower.

Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Liu Zhenmin said Beijing has the right to impose an Air Identification Defense Zone (AIDZ) in the South China Sea region because it belongs to the country. The AIDZ will allow China to monitor and if necessary control flights over the martime region. Beijing, however, would need to increase defense spending to enforce an AIDZ.

Defense budget slowdown

China surprised many international defense experts this year when it said its military budget would grow at a relatively slow pace of 7.5 percent, after five years of increases topping 10 percent. This was an apparent response to a slowing Chinese economy.

Many defense analysts, however, say the official budget does not reflect massive expenditure on military-related infrastructure, such as air and sea ports, frontier rail lines and the construction of new islands.

Regional defense experts say the arbitration ruling may lead other South China Sea claimants to ramp up their defense spending. Vietnam, Taiwan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines all claim portions of the waterway, which is rich in fish and believed to hold significant underwater mineral resources.

"As states squabble over sovereignty issues and increase spending to safeguard their own interests, it is the global defense industry that is the real beneficiary of the South China Sea disputes," said Jonathan Spangler, director of the South China Sea Think Tank in Taipei.

Arms Spending May Rise as Beijing Asserts Control in South China Sea

Complete disregard for the natural environment these assholes have.
Sometimes I suspect they're descended from an ancient alien �� race that crashed in ancient times hence their being at odds with the earth's nature.

That's why it's so unforgivable : for a very long time China was Buddhist / Taoist and there were many people who had great empathy with Nature.

Originally Posted by OhOh

You do realise those medals are solid gold.

Really? Excellent tailoring then, because the weight of them would pull down the front of the tunic quite a lot. And some of that "solid gold" looks a bit sliverish.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Care to name a country where the "slave" labour is not rife and abused?

Many. Many, many, many. Too many to mention.

Originally Posted by OhOh

use a few as testing sites for an H bomb

Sounds like a good idea.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

because the weight of them would pull down the front of the tunic quite a lot

Not really, all Chinese military never go anywhere without their kevlar lined waistcoats which have special loops for the "gold" medals. You know like some military men never let go of their rifle.
You believe everything I post? Maybe I need to add the sarc icon more.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Many. Many, many, many. Too many to mention

OK, just one then.

It's not a matter of this muppet liking the Chinese. Rather that he is rabidly anti-western.

Wouldn't be surprised if he joins IS/Daesh in the near future, and blows his amoeba-like self to bits.

Originally Posted by Baas Babelaas

Wouldn't be surprised if he joins IS/Daesh in the near future

He is a keyboard propagandist nothing more.

Originally Posted by bsnub

He is a keyboard propagandist nothing more.

Praise indeed! Did anybody think otherwise? Living in a wet humid country does things to ones mind, nearly the same a living in a wet and cold but not so extreme.

China Rhetoric Turns Tough After Unfavorable Tribunal Ruling

In an attempt to maximize its gains in the South China Sea dispute, the Chinese military is getting tough in its rhetoric, a sign analysts say that in comparison to the U.S.’s quiet diplomacy Beijing is adopting a dual-track strategy, following an unfavorable international arbitration ruling.

During a meeting with U.S. Chief of Naval Operations John Richardson in Beijing this week, Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy Commander Wu Shengli vowed that China is ready to counter aggression in the South China Sea.

He was quoted as saying on CCTV the Chinese navy is prepared to react to any infringement of rights or aggression and efforts to force China to succumb to pressure will be counterproductive.

He added construction around the Spratly Islands will continue, while any decision to build up defense facilities will be pending based on the level of threat.

Meanwhile, China’s air force has confirmed that it conducted a “combat overflight” of the disputed Scarborough Shoal, which would become “routine practice” in the future, while another navy officer warned that any freedom of navigation patrols carried out by foreign navies in the disputed waters would lead to “disaster.”

But Admiral Wu also praised Richardson’s visit, which coincided with China’s launch of another three-day military drill near Hainan Island this week. He said the trip showed both countries understand the need to beef up communication and contain the risk of confrontations.

In a case brought by the Philippines, a court in The Hague last week dismissed Beijing's claim of sovereignty over the nearly 3.5 million-square-kilometers of the South China Sea.

Hard line, soft line

All the tough rhetoric is evidence of China’s continued application of military pressure, said Shao Jianping, an associate professor of international relations from Honghe University, during a seminar on Monday.

But that doesn’t mean that China will cease its diplomatic engagement with Asian neighbors by “playing both a hard and soft line,” in order to maximize the country’s interest in the dispute, he added.

Yet Wu Fei, a professor at Jinan University, disagreed, saying the tough stance represents China’s lack of a clear strategy.

“The reason why China has exhibited a tough gesture is that China is not clear of its own strategy. Neither China nor surrounding countries are sure about the intention of the other parties,” Wu said.

The professor expects China to forge a clear policy as it resumes bilateral talks with neighboring countries.

Domestic considerations

Also, the hard line has a domestic element to it, catering to the rise of nationalism in China for Chinese leaders to consolidate their grip of power, according to another observer.

“On the domestic fronts, [President] Xi Jinping doesn’t want to get the nationalists offsite. His anti-corruption program, his restructuring — China has got a lot of key constituencies within the country. He can’t really afford to get the nationalists offsite,” said Tim Johnston, director of Asia Program at Crisis Group.

The observer argued the fact China didn’t get tougher by announcing an air defense identification zone and the United States didn’t carry out a high-profile freedom of navigation patrol over the past week shows that neither China nor the United States want war in the South China Sea.

Ren Xiao, a professor of international studies at Fudan University, agreed, saying both militaries have established rules to follow to avoid direct clashes in the disputed region, although the chance of miscalculation cannot be ruled out completely.

“A greater risk lies with potential clashes over the air as a result of the pace [of the air force]. But I expect both countries to avoid such a risk,” Ren said.

The Crisis Group’s Richardson viewed last week’s court verdict against Beijing’s nine-dash-line territorial claims as a restart for all the dispute’s claimants to return to a more realistic negotiation although the ruling itself carried a moral dimension, which will give other claimants more weight on their side of table, he said.

All politics and diplomacy is about flexibility and compromises - and the South China Sea dispute is no different, Richard said.

China Rhetoric Turns Tough After Unfavorable Tribunal Ruling

Philippines rejects talks with China after arbitration

MANILA, Philippines – The Philippines has rejected China’s request for talks on the South China Sea dispute because it asked Manila to “disregard” a court ruling on the issue, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said yesterday.

“They asked us to open ourselves for bilateral negotiations but outside of and in disregard of the arbitral ruling. This is something that I told him was not consistent with our Constitution and our national interest,” Foreign Secretary Perfecto Yasay Jr. said, referring to his Chinese counterpart.

Yasay said in an interview with ABS-CBN that he and Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi discussed the possibility of bilateral talks on the sidelines of an Asia-Europe summit in Mongolia last weekend but made no headway.

During the meeting, Yasay said the Chinese insisted that the Philippines not make any comment about the ruling.

Yasay said he told Wang that bilateral talks could not be conducted without using the Arbitral Tribunal’s decision as a basis for the meetings.

“We would like to discuss with you how your fishermen would have access in that area, but not in the context of the arbitral tribunal,” Yasay quoted Wang as telling him in Mongolia.

“They said, ‘If you will insist on the ruling, discussing along those lines, then we might be headed for a confrontation’,” he added.

The remark about confrontation, Yasay said, has not only been the line of the Chinese foreign minister but also of Chinese Ambassador Zhao Jianhua when he discussed the South China Sea dispute with him.

The DFA chief said direct talks with China over the maritime flashpoint were unlikely to start anytime soon due to Beijing’s refusal to accept the ruling.

He said President Duterte’s priority was to regain access to Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal for Filipino fishermen.

“We have asked China to exercise restraint and sobriety in this regard, that we maintain the status quo for now in terms of not taking aggressive actions... not coming out with any provocative statements,” he added.

Duterte said the Philippines would not yield its territorial rights in the West Philippine Sea to China, as he vowed to stick to the ruling of the international tribunal on the maritime row.

Duterte gave the assurance during the courtesy call of a US congressional delegation yesterday at Malacañang.

“Just out of a meeting with new Philippine President Duterte. He assured us he has no plans to negotiate with China over island dispute,” Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy posted on Twitter.

Malacañang has yet to confirm Murphy’s tweets.

The meeting was attended by Yasay, Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana, Trade Secretary Ramon Lopez and Defense Assistant Secretary Raymund Jose Quilop.

Last week, Duterte asked former president Fidel Ramos to talk to Chinese officials, saying the Philippines would continue to resolve the sea dispute through diplomatic means.

Yasay to keep post
Meanwhile, Duterte said he has no plans to remove Yasay as DFA chief and concurrent government spokesman on the sea dispute.

Duterte said Yasay continues to enjoy his trust and that everything he says with regard to foreign policy has his blessing.

“Yasay speaks for me. Everything that he says in public, both national and international, comes from my guidance, and he has my backing and full support,” Duterte said.

Duterte praised Yasay, whom he said agreed to join his government despite his job as an educator.

He said Yasay accepted the post on condition that he would only serve for a few months because of his obligations as professor of universities in the US.

Philippines rejects talks with China after arbitration | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

Good stuff. The bullies were told to piss off.

Meanwhile the local airlines are opening up Nansha islands. Commercial jets will be arriving with holiday makers soon, not missiles.

Pics of some leggy maidens.





Does one need a visa to travel to the islands and if so, which countries embassy should one apply to?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Does one need a visa to travel to the islands and if so, which countries embassy should one apply to?

I think your Chinese Passport covers you there, Bloho. And with that Minister of Propoganda emblem on the cover, you're a shoe-in.

^^TD's fruitcake chinese bot buys into the latest transparent fakery from the chinks