Thread: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh filmed 'burned alive' by IS

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Moog - assuredly burning in a cage is horrific. At least the Nazis as depraved as they were gassed prior to incineration.

Actually, not always. Numerous people were thrown into the furnaces alive, including young children.


I skipped through the burning video, kneeling down and having your head sawn off with a knife doesn't seem too bad now.

Hopefully the poor man's death won't be in vain, and it will be one of the decisive factors that eventually gets IS wiped off the map.

Originally Posted by klong toey

Originally Posted by Luigi

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Moog - assuredly burning in a cage is horrific. At least the Nazis as depraved as they were gassed prior to incineration.

Actually, not always. Numerous people were thrown into the furnaces alive, including young children.


I skipped through the burning video, kneeling down and having your head sawn off with a knife doesn't seem too bad now.

Hopefully the poor man's death won't be in vain, and it will be one of the decisive factors that eventually gets IS wiped off the map.

Brazen bull



The brazen bull, bronze bull, or Sicilian bull, was a torture and execution device designed in ancient Greece.[1] According to Diodorus Siculus, recounting the story in Bibliotheca historica, Perillos of Athens invented and proposed it to Phalaris, the tyrant of Akragas, Sicily, as a new means of executing criminals.[2] The bull was made entirely of bronze, hollow, with a door in one side.[3] The bull was in the form and size of an actual bull and had an acoustic apparatus that converted screams into the sound of a bull. The condemned were locked in the device, and a fire was set under it, heating the metal until the person inside roasted to death.
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Legend has it that this device was invented by a Greek named Perillus (Perilaus in some sources) for a tyrant named Phalaris of Agrigentum. Expecting a handsome reward for his creativity, Perillus instead became the first person placed inside the Brazen Bull. By some reports, Phalaris himself became an eventual victim of the bull when his subjects grew tired of his mistreatment [source: Gallonio].

Yeah, I've been to the museum of torture in Prague. A cheery day out.

I don't hear of much sympathy for IS, unless it's coming from Muslim quarters.

The only good thing to come out of this is, yet again , we get to see who the sick bastads are on TD
Those who seek out and watch these videos, and post stills and links here.

Dont know what the long term effect of continually watching ths kind of thing is , I guess
people just get brainwashed and hardened to see it as normal, like hapened with the Romans and the Colleseum.

Originally Posted by blue

The only good thing to come out of this is, yet again , we get to see who the sick bastads are on TD
Those who seek out and watch these videos, and post stills and links here.

Dont know what the long term effect of continually watching ths kind of thing is , I guess
people just get brainwashed and hardened to see it as normal, like hapened with the Romans and the Colleseum.

The short term effect will be they can no longer get their rocks off just looking at porn.
Can't help feeling that the people who actually bother to search out these sick videos are in some way actually enjoying them as some kind of odd ball entertainment.
Pretty sick. The mere term burnt alive should be enough to let people know what kind of human vermin members of Isis are.

Originally Posted by ENT

I don't hear of much sympathy for IS, unless it's coming from Muslim quarters.

What Muslim quarters have you heard sympathizing with IS?

Originally Posted by Luigi

Originally Posted by ENT

I don't hear of much sympathy for IS, unless it's coming from Muslim quarters.

What Muslim quarters have you heard sympathizing with IS?

Syria, Iraq, wherever IS has dominated.

Any day at all you can read about allawallas being happy with IS and militant Islam.

Not the majority, but a sizeable hunk of Islamic believers.

Originally Posted by Neverna

No, my point is that, according to one article, the pilot was killed one month ago but according to an article only 3 days old, his release was still being negotiated by Jordan. Even allowing a few days for the BBC story to be written, the difference in time-scale still seems odd.

There is no further word on Jordanian pilot, Moaz al-Kasasbeh

An IS video released on Tuesday said Mr Goto had "only 24 hours left to live" and Mr Kasasbeh "even less".

There may be a satisfactory explanation for the discrepancy but as yet it has not come to light, at least not on the hallowed boards of Teak Door.

The probable answer ...

A video of Moaz al-Kasasbeh being burned alive in a cage was posted online by IS earlier this week.

He was captured by militants in December after his F-16 fighter jet crashed in Syria. The video is believed to have been filmed on 3 January.

BBC News - Islamic State says Jordanian air strike kills US hostage

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Luigi

Originally Posted by ENT

I don't hear of much sympathy for IS, unless it's coming from Muslim quarters.

What Muslim quarters have you heard sympathizing with IS?

Syria, Iraq, wherever IS has dominated.

Where IS (the folk that burn people alive in cages, routinely massacre all those whom they believe to be against them in mass public executions, etc etc) are dominant.

What a surprise.



You'd be Allahlalala-ing in the streets too when the alternative is to risk being put in a cage and set alight.

And that threat to well being is what underpins any and every Islamic edict and fatwa.

Obey or die, in one way or another.

Be it decapitation or strangulation or acid attack and beatings to the women for refusing to obey a jumped up male bigot, or getting hacked or shot because yer a non- Muslim, or for the medieval crime of blasphemy, death or something close to a living hell is one's reward in Islam for transgressing the laws of a make-believe sky fairy.

Originally Posted by Luigi

You'd be Allahlalala-ing in the streets too when the alternative is to risk being put in a cage and set alight.

Is that why the mainstream media is full of pictures and articles of people in the invaded countries of people welcoming the Coalition of Freedom? Either that or a sniper round in the face?

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by Luigi

You'd be Allahlalala-ing in the streets too when the alternative is to risk being put in a cage and set alight.

Is that why the mainstream media is full of pictures and articles of people in the invaded countries of people welcoming the Coalition of Freedom? Either that or a sniper round in the face?

Coalition of Freedom.


Whose freedom?

Fek'n spin doctors are making a mint out of coining new words to describe horror.

Next we'll be told of a coalition of martians or an axis of fairies about to destroy us.

Originally Posted by ENT

an axis of fairies

Heh...That's quite good, ENT...

Bush would look good wandering around the ranch in pink panties...

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Originally Posted by blue

The only good thing to come out of this is, yet again , we get to see who the sick bastads are on TD
Those who seek out and watch these videos, and post stills and links here.

Dont know what the long term effect of continually watching ths kind of thing is , I guess
people just get brainwashed and hardened to see it as normal, like hapened with the Romans and the Colleseum.

The short term effect will be they can no longer get their rocks off just looking at porn.
Can't help feeling that the people who actually bother to search out these sick videos are in some way actually enjoying them as some kind of odd ball entertainment.
Pretty sick. The mere term burnt alive should be enough to let people know what kind of human vermin members of Isis are.

Human nature. Although it's similarly shocking imagery such as the monks self-immolating, little girls burnt with napalm, or captured VC soldiers being summarily executed that turned opinion against the Vietnam war.

^
It really didnt take all that to turn me against the Vietnam Conflict. I was against it from the first time Americans had boots on the ground

Human nature. Although it's similarly shocking imagery such as the monks self-immolating, little girls burnt with napalm, or captured VC soldiers being summarily executed that turned opinion against the Vietnam war.

The larger question that must be answered is "what are we fighting for ?"
In WWII Americans well understood what was at stake.

After many years US citizens were no longer buying into the 'stopping Communism from spreading' line.

Usually it just takes the body bags coming home to families within a country that hasn't provided an acceptable response to the question above to kindle the flame that brings soldiers home.

Vietnam provided more than 58,000 red, white & blue flags to families across America.

Hopefully the American people still potentially can stop the continuance of actions they feel unjust by putting their elected representatives on notice.

The war on IS is currently viewed as acceptable by the majority of Americans.
The US Gov't hasn't sold the idea of American boots on the ground in Ukraine though the future of supplying equipment could be considered in line. (IMO)

As long as there's an enemy to fight.

Originally Posted by Luigi

As long as there's an enemy to fight.

The continuous search for invented enemies.
Been the story for ages......

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Originally Posted by Luigi

As long as there's an enemy to fight.

The continuous search for invented enemies.
Been the story for ages......

I used to think way back in the 70's that the British had the ability to smash the IRA. And I still believe it now. But just may be the British didn't want to? N Ireland was a great place to train and practice anti terrorist operations. Having soldiers sitting on their arses in their UK barracks is not a great way to keep ones forces honed to perfection. So keep NI ticking over. The lessons learned in NI have been of great value to the British post the IRA ceasefire to the present day.
I feel that, may be, once that the NI episode finished another theatre needed to be opened up. Combat conditions bring out the best in a country's army. It keeps them at their best. British SAS/special forces have been in constant action since WW 2 reinforcing the point I'm trying to make, hopefully?

Wonder if there'll ever be a day when America isn't at war with someone.

Originally Posted by Luigi

Wonder if there'll ever be a day when America isn't at war with someone.

To be clarified, the Anglo-American Empire.

War is life.
War is profit.
War defines patriotism and religion.
War confirms a highly civilised existence.
War is the force that gives meaning.

Imperialism and colonialism.
Almost always extended under a disguise.