those lines look like there was a casting for Breaking Bad,
those lines look like there was a casting for Breaking Bad,
guns are legal,, org. relig. is legal and now weed.
2+ 2 = 5
the road to nowhere.
50 yrs. ,, 100 yrs down the road will show this to be a bad move for many.
employers will have every employee tested
applying for a job will also have the test
driving a vehicle, riding a bike.
tho i never had a problem with driving or riding but but
i lost my dream.
^ Yes agree employers will eventually have no choice etc.
In my Country hash and pot is decriminalised (do not mistake for legalised) for small amounts for personal use, dealers and importers is still in for prison-time.
But as of now the Police have a new tool in the box, the Draeger 5000 saliva test system, and unlike places in the US the Police do not need to have documented suspicious behaviour/driving to test you, there is no requirements for the circus show with one leg stands and nose pointing, if they ask you to take the test you have no choice, if you refuse you will automatically be arrested and forced to take a blood-test.
Dräger DrugTest® 5000
When they have their High Seasons DUI campaigns everyone passing is stopped and asked to blow and now also to spit
And since no legal level drug limits is invented yet there is a no tolerance policy on drugs, that mean for any positive on the test it is by law seen as a BAC of 0,10 - so you lose your licence for 3 years and get a fine of 1/25 of your year salary before tax - for a first time offence, second time and onwards longer licence loss time, bigger fines, and compulsory prison. Third time you also compulsory have your vehicle confiscated.
And with the much longer times some drugs stay detectable in the system new rules for indulgence and pause time from work and driving need to be factored in by the Junkies.
With the Colorado insanity, systems like this and much more testing preformed on motorists and at work is inevitably coming to you America, just wait and see, the old freebie riding around slightly high and going to work is soon gone - even days after you last smoked.
I wonder if the users by then will wish the good old times back, where if you where careful, and avoided accidents, you could get away with your little abuse problem on the quiet.
At least enjoying a few beers, have a good nights sleep and away you go, will still be OK in Junkieland
Originally Posted by larvidchrOriginally Posted by larvidchr
Weed Smokers....
Utter losers.
Yeah right.
2013 Top 50 Most Influential Marijuana Users
http://coed.com/2009/02/06/the-10-mo...h-to-admit-it/
Nothing wrong with a little smoke now and than.
If history had been twisted, in a fashion, and all things alcoholic had been deemed illegal and propagandized to be morally or ethically reprehensible, how might such debates and discussion be cast?
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No comparison, a Beer or two now and again is not damaging to your health, in fact the opposite, and it is totally out of your system next day.
Pot smoking is damaging (you get the same shit in your lungs as smoking cigarettes) and the active ingredients stays in your system and affect it for over a week - Fact, and for-instance diminished learning capacity while high and with the drug in your system, is a proven fact - Fact, and I can't be bothered arguing this point with potheads.
And yes the sophistication level of your arguments is quite funny innit , would you care to present a list of the probably millions of pothead wasted life's - and then add slightly dimmed out users that post rubbish about their drug affliction and how it made them more clever
Maybe Obama would have been less of a dancing minstrel clown if he had smoked a bit less pot, he might even have managed to be a good President, that did not waste taxpayer time on dreams about dead little pothead violent wannabe gangsta hudlums becoming his son, closed Guantanamo as promised, and made a Healthcare web site that actually worked, and finally bung-sucked a bit less foreign dictator ass, but I guess the sucking big holes habit is hard to break, anyway we will never know
Dinner time
Are you seriously claiming that becoming President of the US is a career failure?Originally Posted by larvidchr
Utter bollocks Larv - Happy New Year anyway mate.Originally Posted by larvidchr
US President - to be honest I am not sure I would consider it a dream job, personally I would have a hard time with the head count, and the rotten deals leaving millions of my citizens in shit, while sucking up to thieving financiers and bankers for campaign contributions.
What I suggest is that he just might have done a much better job as President, and this we will never know.
The crux is high-jacking a list of perceived successful people and claiming they are unaffected from former drug use, that is impossible to prove, just as it is impossible to know how much better they might have preformed without having used drugs.
All we know for a fact is that drugs do damage, and there is millions of victims to prove that
^^ And happy New Year to you too Albert
Hmm....
Larvid has not responded to my post....
I'm pretty sure you being serious. And I'm not here to argue with you but you could do with a bit of knowledge expansion. Please give it a rest calling people addicts and junkies.Originally Posted by larvidchr
It's only weed.
It sounds like you've never smoked it so I'd like to tell you that it lasts about 30mins to 4 hours depending on your tolerance level.
It's not very addictive.
You don't need to smoke one as soon as you wake up.
Like alcohol, there is no need to do it before work.
Or before driving.
Or before minding kids.
People can control themselves.
It's all about moderation. You speak as if you are the only person who can moderate and that all people who smoke weed are out of control?
Now I'm the last person to speak about moderation. I don't discriminate between drugs or alcohol and abuse them all equally. I've tried every mind altering drug there is because why the fuck not? I want to know everything thats possible with my mind.
I want to know what my body can see and do. To deny yourself these is pretty archaic but up to you.
I'm not sure of the percentage of brain that you don't use and we don't even know what it's for but don't you think that other organs in our body could be under used?
My eyes have seen some shit that you couldn't imagine. I took drugs as a study and found that what I saw and they way it translated to your brain was beyond fucking amazing. When I'm playing pool I can literally draw a red line from the white ball to the coloured ball to the pocket. Can you do that? I'm awesome at pool. (not a reason to take drugs but it helps in gambling situations. )
You also speak about 'drugs being generally bad' Yet you have no knowledge of it. How about the people who are suffering and this can actually help them. Like me.
I was diagnosed with post traumatic stress disorder about 3 years ago. I didn't even know I had it for about 10 years. Shut the fuck up! You've go no idea.
I'm sorry because I've ranted a little but you are one of these Kunts thats stops me getting help. You talk about your couple of beers on a friday and nobodies harmed but here are some stats that you should get familiar with.
1. Marijuana Curbs Brain Damage Caused by Drinking
Unless you’re seriously in denial about alcohol’s negative effects, you’re probably aware that alcohol is less than good for your brain. Marijuana, however, may actually help prevent alcohol-associated brain damage and treat depression.
2. Marijuana May Help Treat Cancers Caused by Alcohol
Alcohol consumption is carcinogenic, and contributes to head and neck, breast, liver, esophageal and colorectal cancers. In fact, more than 19,500 cancer deaths in 2009 were deemed alcohol-related. Cannabis has been proven to help treat cancer and its symptoms.
3. Violent Behavior vs. Utter Chillness
Whether it’s used as an excuse for or directly causes aggression, alcohol more than any other substance promotes violent behavior. In case you’re unaware, marijuana tends to chill people out.
4. Alcohol Addiction is Extremely Dangerous
Alcoholism is an international problem, and withdrawal can lead to death or permanent brain damage. Cannabis addiction exists, but it is less harmful and generally less severe than addiction to other substances.
5. One Kills People. Guess Which One.
The first four points highlight alcohol’s lethality, but they don’t tell the whole story. Alcohol abuse kills 2.5 million people worldwide each year. The green stuff has led to exactly zero recorded deaths. Ever.
6. Alcohol Prevents Muscle Growth
Alcohol can prevent muscle growth in a variety of ways, from decreasing testosterone levels to interrupting sleep. Weed doesn’t directly affect muscle growth at all.
7. One Has Legitimate Medicinal Uses
Marijuana has a long, long list of physician-approved medical uses and the list is growing. Other than red wine’s ability to lower blood pressure, alcohol does just about nothing positive for a person’s health.
8. Drunk Sex is Sloppy, High Sex is Tingly
Alcohol decreases your ability to perceive stimuli. That can be a good thing when you’ve just faceplanted at a party and want to play it off like nothing. Losing feeling when you’re getting intimate, however, is pretty lame. Enter marijuana, which, as our very own Hypatia Lee can attest increases sensitivity and can improve sex.
9. Long Term Alcohol Abuse Could Kill You
Long-term alcohol abuse can lead to liver failure or other life-threatening conditions. Marijuana’s effects over a lifetime are still not entirely understood, but they do not include any of the potentially lethal ailments caused by alcohol.
10. Drunks Decisions Bad, High Decisions Slow
Alcohol leads to risky decision-making, period. That can be fun sometimes but dangerous at others.
Scientist’s have yet to fully grasp marijuana’s effects on decision making, but this study shows that smokers more or less come to the same conclusions as sober peeps. They just take a little bit longer to arrive at those conclusions.
End of quotes.
Please read what i have posted lars because I don't want to sound like a twat. You can read and make your own decisions but we are not a junkie group that can not control them selves.
Wow this was an open ended battle with my shit still being done.
If this shit it not for you then it's not my fault.
Have you heard the shit from these 2 guys
WTF?...heh...Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince
One can really get down on that muff after smoking a doobie, na?...You know, lift up them little legs nice and high...
Kaw toad...forgot meself for a minute...
^^^
FP I have worked in law-enforcement for 20 years, and all that time also with drug addicts, I have seen it all first hand, horrific tragedy, violence, death, murder, abuse, carnage, suicides and a lot more stuff "that you could not imagine".
So I have fvucking earned the right to have a passionate opinion on this OK.
I also know exactly how long pot can be traced in your blood, and your subjective personal experience of how it affects you personally, is neither here nor there when it comes to DUI law.
Neither can you refute the science stating that it effects the brain for much longer, it might not be perceivable to you in terms of getting/feeling high but it is still there, hence the researched reasons for it not being deemed safe to drive/work when it is in your blood.
Apart from that you know people are different, some hardened alcoholics can seem to function almost like normal and drive in a humongous drunk state - until something goes wrong that is, and it is just the same with Junkies
I don't give a toss for all the "Free pot" stories having been posted over the years, how it relieves gout, calms the nerves, helps a bad back, relieves ingrown toenails etc. etc. there is non of most of that that cant be better, safer and cheaper done with other approved meds.
I stick with the reliable official science and the few genuine medical problems professional produced cannabis products help alleviate that sound Governments use and has approved, pot in tablet form and spray, no serious reputable researcher say it has to be smoked - it is a scam to legally puff the dragon period.
"A 2013 literature review said that exposure to marijuana had biologically-based physical, mental, behavioral and social health consequences and was "associated with diseases of the liver (particularly with co-existing hepatitis C), lungs, heart, and vasculature".[24] There are insufficient data to draw strong conclusions about the safety of medical cannabis, although short-term use is associated with minor adverse effects such as dizziness. Although supporters of medical cannabis say that it is safe,[25] further research is required to assess the long-term safety of its use.[3][26]"
I am sorry to hear about your PTSD, I have been declared above 80% disabled from PTSD over 10 years ago FP, so yes I have a fvucking idea and have paid a steep price - much more than you can possibly even begin to imagine, and if you need any advise on how to learn to live with it, and I think you do, I will be only to happy to help.
Doing illegal drugs in Thailand for whatever perceived reason is a fools dangerous game, unless you are very very quiet about it and have some kind of Thai protection at hand if need be.
And insisting on breaking drug laws to experiment is a personal choice, but not without costs as I am sure you know by now, and not a choice I would recommend to anyone if you ask me.
And yes sorry FP but the Junkie moniker was deliberately sticking the needle in a little bit (no pun intended )
Drug testing in the US is common and has been for about 15 years. I believe most of the reason is that a company that is "drug free" can have lower insurance costs in the employer-employee insurance pool.
For some jobs the testing is random and others they only do it once.
Sorry to hear that but that was your choice. You made the decision.i lost my dream.
Could have been alcohol, gambling, or other drugs of things.
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Jeez larv, chill out dude- light up a spliff.
So you should be able to recognise the difference between drug addicts and people who smoke weed. Theres obviously no chance of you changing you mind.Originally Posted by larvidchr
Of course. You speak of addicts but I can't even remember the last time I had a smoke. It doesn't bother me but it would be nice if it was legal.Originally Posted by larvidchr
Nobody is talking about doing drugs illegally. The whole point of the thread is that its become legal in one state in America.
Erm OK, I think I can have a Go now.
Shit mate, you where a cop for 20 years and your ranting on about the pot smokers ?? Your friggin pissing into the wind and talking it up. Fuking rubbish your going on with.
I was a front line Fire Fighter for 30 odd years and have attended more road accidents than you ever have seen .
Road rescue was part of my core business, so glad to be out of it I tell you.
The vast majority of road trauma and death is caused by pissed up wankers drinking and driving. Fire Fighters are over having to cut drunks out of cars and clean up the carnage left behind.
I have never attended a fatal accident where the cause has been some stoner cruising along in his his car, its always been the drunk belting along and running red lights.
Your experience just don't relate to the reality of road trauma.
Christ mate, 20 years ?? That's all you done.
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