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    You'll never persuade TDs resident jerkins that even kids need to consider the foolishness of carrying what looks like a gun and then not following police orders to lay it down.

    Tragic result, but good on the officers for taking him down instead of risking their own and perhaps other lives by waiting for social services to arrive.

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    Just saw where a bunch of people were demonstrating against the shooting. I wonder if it will turn into another Zimmerman?

    In the US, Mexicans generally don't protest as long or hard as Negroes (probably because many are in the country illegally), and the fact that the shooter was a cop will probably quell any serious attempts at a lynch mob.

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    Maybe it's my age or the environment I live in but I wouldn't have given a kid carrying a toy gun a second look, would never have occurred to me that it might be a real weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels View Post

    I wonder what scares "Davis Knowlton" about America having the most well armed populace of any developed country? I think that's a good thing, in fact I think it's a great thing.
    What scares me about it is that the very large majority of them are total fucking retards whom I wouldn't trust with a can opener, much less a weapon of any kind.

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    ^ Here's one.

    Texas boy, 5, fatally shoots himself with napping babysitter's gun
    Published October 23, 2013FoxNews.com
    A southeast Texas woman has been arrested and charged in the death of a 5-year-old boy who died in her care after he apparently shot himself with her gun while she was napping.

    Melissa Ringhardt, 19, of Vidor, faces charges of abandoning or endangering a child. She was arraigned Wednesday with bond set at $250,000, the Orange County Sheriff's Office said.

    The sheriff's office said Ringhardt was baby-sitting John Read in his Vidor home on Monday when he accidentally shot himself with the .40 caliber semiautomatic handgun.

    Ringhardt, who was arrested Tuesday, was living with the Read family and the parents were gone during the shooting, according to authorities. The couple's 6-month-old child was also at the residence but wasn't hurt.
    12NewsNow.com reported that Ringhardt told investigators was carrying the handgun because she was afraid to be home alone. The pistol was apparently left on a coffee table in the living room when she took a nap.

    Ringhardt awoke to find John deceased in the living room and brought both children to the grandparent's house to get help, according to a sheriff's department news release.

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    ^Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Saw a picture of it in the news. A very accurate replica of an AK-47. Kids that age have shot and killed teachers twice this week. That said, cops do appear to be getting quicker on the trigger lately. Thankless job, that - guess right and you live; guess wrong, and you live with having killed a kid with a toy.
    Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

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    Wouldn't want to be a cop in the US, so many get killed trying to do a decent job.
    If they should fuck up then their org. is sued to the sewer by shit head no hopers that should't have been there in the first place.
    I hope they send in the drones when the shit heads start parading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    What scares me about it is that the very large majority of them are total fucking retards whom I wouldn't trust with a can opener, much less a weapon of any kind.
    So why is it different in the PI? Eh?

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    It is a shame, but, the parents should have known when a gun looks real there are chances that it will be considered real.

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    Common sense, intelligence and judgement are qualities increasingly in short supply in most societies but where the bar is set at a relatively low level, such as in the USA and other developing countries, travesties are inevitably more frequent.

    The idiocy of Lt. Drebbin of the Naked Gun series is seemingly the template for what passes now for law enforcement in septic land.

    Americans really are quite awful, aren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton
    What scares me about it is that the very large majority of them are total fucking retards whom I wouldn't trust with a can opener, much less a weapon of any kind.
    So why is it different in the PI? Eh?
    It's not if you're talking about the stupidity of the people. But a very big difference is that very few Filipinos can afford guns. And, you can't buy one legally without a lot of paperwork. And, even if you have a legally purchased and licensed weapon, you can't carry it, openly or concealed, without another permit which is extremely hard to obtain (and expensive). Thus, most firearm crimes are either high-end, like bank robberies, using automatic weapons either obtained from, or wielded by, ex-military or police. Other provincial handguns crimes are usually done with a variety of homemade guns, much as in Thailand.

    So, the people are no brighter, but they sure don't have the ready access to guns that Americans do, Hope that answers your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralphlsasser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    Saw a picture of it in the news. A very accurate replica of an AK-47. Kids that age have shot and killed teachers twice this week. That said, cops do appear to be getting quicker on the trigger lately. Thankless job, that - guess right and you live; guess wrong, and you live with having killed a kid with a toy.
    Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

    Armed law enforcement officers are there to protect the public as well as themselves when faced with lethal force.

    There are many instances where officers respond to 'shots already fired' incidents. If they were merely concerned about their own safety then most likely they would be making themselves a cup of coffeee before attending, when the carnage would be well and truly over.

    To serve and protect the public 68 police officers were gunned down in the US in 2011 which i suspect would be seen as an acceptable number of deaths to those who wish to continue to play with their 'toys' and aren't personally affected by those losses.

    The intellectually challenged and firearms are not a very good mixture as clearly demonstrated by the number of firearm fatalities/incidents in america. The story continues.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by navynine View Post
    It is a shame, but, the parents should have known when a gun looks real there are chances that it will be considered real.
    It seems current Left-leaning principles are geared to the lowest common denominator, or less politely, retards who need to be protected from themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick View Post

    To serve and protect the public 68 police officers were gunned down in the US in 2011 which i suspect would be seen as an acceptable number of deaths to those who wish to continue to play with their 'toys' and aren't personally affected by those losses.

    Jesus Christ,

    68 cops died in 2011, these guys get payed around 100 k a year to deal with the shit of society. ?????

    Firefighters die every year because some arsonist has torched a building for no good reason.

    I mean what do the tax payers expect ?

    If people are so traumatized by this incident I suggest they go put on the uniform and experience life as a front line Emergency worker.

    Only then could they experience why this poor kid payed with his life for his actions that day.

    Absolute tragedy all round and no winners here. The poor kid is dead and the cop will never forget what has happened.

    More than likely another decent Cop pensioned out on a section 4.

    " Mental Trauma "

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemo
    retards who need to be protected from themselves

    Similar principles apply to the wearing of seat belts/crash helmets when travelling on public roads. The resistance to that legislation was also evident by those who still wished to have a choice. Of course that choice still remains but it comes at a price in the form of incurring serious injury or fines.

    Sadly, some of those who considered themselves to be immortal will often be photographed lying in pools of blood on the highways around Pattaya/Phuket and later at the morgue. Much in common with those who seriously believe they are responsible gun owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick View Post

    To serve and protect the public 68 police officers were gunned down in the US in 2011 which i suspect would be seen as an acceptable number of deaths to those who wish to continue to play with their 'toys' and aren't personally affected by those losses.
    Wow, only 68 of more than 33,000 homicides by firearms in this year in the US, and 'gunned down' doesn't even mean 'shot dead'. Policeman must be the safest occupation in terms of bulletproofness. Comes with the license to use deadly force at their own discretion, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post

    Policeman must be the safest occupation in terms of bulletproofness. Comes with the license to use deadly force at their own discretion, I guess.


    Subjective opinion that one.

    I really don't think a policeman feels very safe at all when they are looking down the barrel of a gun. There vests cover the torso only so that leaves there head, arms and legs as a prime target.

    Not very safe at all I would say, 50-50 chance at best that the bad guy will pop a cap in the vest.

    Also the last thing a cop wants to do is have to resort to his gun as his protection, if he needs to do that it means his life or the life of the public is being threatened and his aim is protect those.

    The person pointing the gun in the officers direction is now considered a prime target. That's what they get payed to do. Also they want to go home at night to there family.

    I have worked with many ex cops over the course of my career. I can assure you that the threats and shit they deal with on a daily basis is something Joe public will never know.

    A thankless highly dangerous career choice with very average financial reward for there effort.

    100K a year to deal with the dregs of society. Fuck that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick View Post

    To serve and protect the public 68 police officers were gunned down in the US in 2011 which i suspect would be seen as an acceptable number of deaths to those who wish to continue to play with their 'toys' and aren't personally affected by those losses.
    Wow, only 68 of more than 33,000 homicides by firearms in this year in the US, and 'gunned down' doesn't even mean 'shot dead'. Policeman must be the safest occupation in terms of bulletproofness. Comes with the license to use deadly force at their own discretion, I guess.

    To put it into perspective around the same number of officers have been shot and killed whilst on duty in the History of British Policing as died in similar circumstances in the US in 2011.

    Arming one's citizens has and always will be a recipe for disaster.

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