Thread: Explosions Rock Boston Marathon

Originally Posted by alwarner

Another explosion at JFK Library and 2 controlled explosions.

Bad times.

Where is your link for these?



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The Boston Marathon is quite a big one internationally so many people would have been watching this. I'd bet it's connected to some loony American rather than any foreigners. There just are too many loony Americans out there and these are quite stressful times. A lot of people feel betrayed by the governments of Bush and Obama with the wars, the economy and the rest of it.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I was just parroting a statement that was made on CNN about the Saudi. I would agree that this would seem to be the work of teabag patriots.

A sporting event is a pretty scattered target for a domestic terrorist. You are just as likely to kill people who support your view as oppose it, unless you are in the fatties liberation movement.

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by bsnub

I was just parroting a statement that was made on CNN about the Saudi. I would agree that this would seem to be the work of teabag patriots.

A sporting event is a pretty scattered target for a domestic terrorist. You are just as likely to kill people who support your view as oppose it, unless you are in the fatties liberation movement.

Yeah you make a very valid point!

^Unless you are opposed to the symbolism of the event, as Eric Rudolph was opposed to the "global socialism" of the Olympics.

Eric Rudolph was opposed to the "global socialism" of the Olympics.

Reason and rationality are not close friends with these people, are they? If the world's biggest corporate wankfest is some kind of socialist conspiracy, I guess the patriotism of blowing the legs off your fellow countrymen - whatever their beliefs - must seem perfectly obvious.

Very Early days as yet, so in reality any opinions as to the guilty party , however thinly applied they are is highly speculative to say the least.

Originally Posted by MissTraveller

^I have talked to their families just this morning. I just got to school and read about this tragedy.

What a place to put bombs...at the finish line. So so wrong.

Thoughtful terrorists. They knew that the finish area would be getting a lot more attention than anywhere else. This is all about getting attention and making some kind of "statement".

The participants are from all over the world, so that greatly improves the guarantees of world wide interest and attention. Seems like the explosive devises were designed to create maximum injury too...smallish bombs loaded with shrapnel placed in areas where lots of people would congregate near the finish.

Let's wait to see if any group raises their hand to claim "victory". Seems quite likely in view of the nature of the thing and the maximising of the terror effect etc.

Originally Posted by robuzo

Originally Posted by Zooheekock

Eric Rudolph was opposed to the "global socialism" of the Olympics.

Reason and rationality are not close friends with these people, are they? If the world's biggest corporate wankfest is some kind of socialist conspiracy, I guess the patriotism of blowing the legs off your fellow countrymen - whatever their beliefs - must seem perfectly obvious.

It's not easy to get inside the heads of these people, cramped and crowded as those heads are. I suppose saying that the crony capitalism of taxpayer-funded sports, which is pretty much what professional sports has devolved into everywhere, is synonymous with socialism is slightly more sensible than saying Obama is both a radical Muslim and a communist. You'll have better luck and less chance of injury asking a Rottweiler to watch his table manners than suggesting a Christian Dominionist apply reason.

I just read the following comment by John Cole at the Balloon Juice blog, and I must admit, self-hating American that I am, I agree: "people all over the world deal with this every single god damned day. That does not minimize the tragedy, but like I noted earlier, 37 people were killed in Iraq. Today. And it is no longer even on the front page of the New York Times, and when it was earlier, it was just an AP/Reuters feed." I'm not sure that Americans are more self-centered or as a nation more solipsistic than people in other countries, but America's solipsism is much less forgivable than that of just about any other country.

^ that was honest.

It's American exceptionalism.

Australian kids are told they are lucky, reminded of others sacrifices and that they should be good at sports. There is no hero culture for warriors.
What are American kids told?

From the blasts it seems the explosives were home made. Not much you can do if it was a backpacker bomb as used in London. Dealing with aimless terrorism is the worst kind and in any free, democratic liberal society almost impossible to police. Belfast could only deal with it when a perimeter was deployed around the immediate city centre with folk being funnelled into turnstiles for security screening.

These things can only be resolved on a case by case basis and defeat a strategic approach when those who commit the crimes are so diffuse in organisation and aim.

Problem with Americans they are so susceptible to such an array of media peddling extremist political views for commercial reasons that they become quite neurotic.

The teaparty just had an event in Boston on April 13. It's on youtube. The original teaparty of 1773 which happened in Boston is seen by many as the beginning of the American revolution.

It's Patriots Day. Boston has statues of Patriots everywhere around the city. These patriots are also known as the founding fathers. The football team in Mass is The New England Patriots. The Patriot Missile is made in Massachusetts at Raytheon. The Boston Marathon held on Patriots Day could be called the Patriot Games. April 15 is also the day taxes are due in the US. The original tea party was all about taxes. Lots of symbolism connected to this place and time.


I wouldn't rule out an American being the perpetrator.

I wouldn't rule out an American being the perpetrator.

I bet he looks like this .. and his girlfriend is phat and the dood drinks Budweiser and crushes the cans with his bare hands just before they're empty.

Just checked the wikipedia link for the boston tea party which has a 'talk' section. Someone suggested a correction a few days ago. Below is exactly what is posted. Why the sudden change???


"Edit request on 10 April 2013

Near the beginning of the article the words "political protest" should be replaced by "act of terrorism" to keep the language used modern and in perspective."


Talk:Boston Tea Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now isn't that an odd coincidence.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by alwarner

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by alwarner

Post what you want to. It'll be ages before all the facts are out.

BBC are also mentioning hydrogen peroxide as I'm typing this. Unconfirmed but it's certainly being speculated on.

By the BBC for fucks sake.
They're saying it COULD have been hydrogen peroxide. It COULD have been anything.
They're a news outlet speculating, disregard.

My oh my.

The point was, that rickschoppers was being told only to report facts. Why shouldn't he post what is being speculated in the press? Don't be a penis ALL the time mate. It doesn't suit you.

Suits me perfectly thank you very much.

my point was, why even mention what the press are speculating? it's pointless, they haven't got a clue.
I heard it was the north koreans, MT is speculating that, she has as much clue as the BBC at the moment.

I find when these things happen the media are speculating and jumping to conclusions and people accept it as fact.
best to wait a few days and let the dust settle.

ha ha touche!

I know what you're saying but it's worth posting if it's out there. I don't think the speculation was that it was a Hydrogen Peroxide bomb rather that IF it was then it would point to certain groups.

It's all come from a guy called Peter Bergen who is "CNN's Analyst" who was talking about the possibilities. He said that it could very well be right wing domestic terrorists but if the device was HP then that would probably rule them out.

I guess that the other media outlets picked up on it from there.

Sent that to the FBI via their tips page. What the hell you never know. I wonder if they found that already.

Following the federal deregulation in broadcasting in the late 90s the USA now has over 1400 radio stations broadcasting talk radio most of which derive healthy incomes from editorialising facts to suit extremist opinions enhancing ratings and advertising revenue.

It's a fact of life apparent to anyone with a car radio and that therefore includes most Americans in the demographic.

Are you American Bsnub or simply facile?

If this was a proper terrorist attack wouldn't the gloating perp,s have already admitted doing it ? They don't often wait to gloat and no matter who actually did it prepare to lose even more of your rights and freedoms people
The world truly has gone mad !

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

If this was a proper terrorist attack wouldn't the gloating perp,s have already admitted doing it ? They don't often wait to gloat and no matter who actually did it prepare to lose even more of your rights and freedoms people
The world truly has gone mad !

Not really needed to claim credit. The effect on US society will be the same, or even worse. Is it AlQaida? Is it a new boogyman?

Originally Posted by thegent

Following the federal deregulation in broadcasting in the late 90s the USA now has over 1400 radio stations broadcasting talk radio most of which derive healthy incomes from editorialising facts to suit extremist opinions enhancing ratings and advertising revenue.

It's a fact of life apparent to anyone with a car radio and that therefore includes most Americans in the demographic.

Are you American Bsnub or simply facile?

This proves that you know fuck all about America. Nobody listens to talk radio any more except for the over fifty geriatrics.

Car radio? Really? Absurd.

Incredibly easy if anyone is interested.

How to Make Acetone Peroxide: A Primary High Explosive « Explosives & Fireworks

Also very dangerous..

Originally Posted by bsnub

Car radio? Really? Absurd.

No, they really exist! It's that goofy looking thing next to the USB port where the iPod plugs in.

it will be interesting to see who is responsible for this.