Thread: Missing April Jones: Search Intensifies

Agree with Can123 that the Police and local community have done everything possible in trying to find the little girl.

The fact that they have charged him with murder and also "attempt to pervert the course of Justice" suggests that they have enough evidence to convict him but he still refuses to tell them where he hid the body.

Originally Posted by Breny
Rot in Hell, until then may you have a short and unhappy life. I for one would love to contribute to his stabbing by another Prisoner. Come on lads do it, and do it soon.

I was a student in Lampeter University and i know the area well. A Welsh prisoner will do it, and i don't want him killed i want him blinded.

I found that to be a rather sad comment...

Oh my, I would sooner be in the hands of the Taliban right now than to go where this sick bastard is headed.
And believe me he will wish he'd never gone out of his door that day.
To all you cockheads that say he deserves his day in court - fuck right off, the police had 4 days with him and if he was not guilty he'd be out in the pub by now.

Originally Posted by ENT

But April said: ‘It's all right, I know them’.”

That might possibly suggest some of his kids were in there to ,

they dont have to have hard evidence, to be very sure the girl is dead...

the guy has been watched and interrogated for a couple of days... they can tell when he is lying, and the wording chosen etc, gives strong clues of what is the truth or not or even in what areas to search...

was the same with the german case i mentioned on page 1... the killer never admitted to the murder, best he said, the boy is hidden (by other party) alive in a shack... without any real evidence to support the claim, the police told the parents from early on, that they dont believe the boy is alive anymore...

its the same as with the polygraph, from the answers one might tell if there is a conspiracy, a lie, but you cant tell where the body is hidden...

when talking, people are giving themselves away, always - not only by mimics, miniscule muscles in the face, but by the words chosen... by what is said and moreover - by what is NOT SAID...

I'll go with Buriamboy on this one as i too don't believe they have sufficient evidence to charge the guy, hiowever, his reluctance to provide answers during an interview and also his demeanor may have given the police sufficient cause to believe that he is indeed the culprit.

The fact that the CPS have co-operated with the police in ensuring that the suspect remains in police custody whilst the search continues also emphasises the lack of evidence available.

I do recall a similar search for a missing young girl taking place in my area of the UK in the 90's. Her step-father was held in custody. Despite almost the whole county police force searching for her daily over nearby countryside i believe it took around 2 weeks to discover her body in the entrance to a badger's sett, put there by her SF.

It was a methodical and desperate search, going over covered ground on many occasions by the police that eventually led to her discovery.

It does take time and dedication but without April being found i fear that there may be insufficient evidence to convict for murder at this time. Of course further evidence may become available as time goes on despite no sign of the young girl.

I feel desperately for the mother at times such as this. Terrible period for her.

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

I'll go with Buriamboy on this one as i too don't believe they have sufficient evidence to charge the guy, hiowever, his reluctance to provide answers during an interview and also his demeanor may have given the police sufficient cause to believe that he is indeed the culprit. The fact that the CPS have co-operated with the police in ensuring that the suspect remains in police custody whilst the search continues also emphasises the lack of evidence available.

The fact that he has been charged with murder would suggest they have evidence to the contrary of your belief, and that as a group of experts with all the most up-to-date information and evidence available to them, believe that in all probability, he is guilty of playing a major part in her disappearance.

I'll stick with the old bill on this one.

we are used to transparency, when it comes to police investigations...

usually they would tell something like "we found traces of her in/at"...
or give hints on what sort of evidence they have found...
only very little in crime cases is up for a gag order...

there is no gag order, but still we dont know what sort of evidence they may have...
instead, there is the "attempt to pervert the course of justice" raised...

this leaves doubts... and thats just normal...

Originally Posted by alitongkat

this leaves doubts... and thats just normal..

They simply don't want to leave themselves open to any chance of tainting evidence and jeopardizing the case, or any other lines of inquiry which are running consecutively to the ones which are openly known to the public through the media. You would be a fool to think that the media and public was made aware of such details in the early stages of an investigation such as this one.

You know what they want you to know, and that's that. There's no conspiracy theory here, move on.

Originally Posted by English Noodles

public was made aware of such details in the early stages of an investigation such as this one.

YES, the media is quickly made aware of facts, which can be made public without hindering the investigation...

and please dont call it the "early stages of an investigation such as this one" - when they have already arrested the alleged killer...

if someone is arrested, the public normally gets told what they have found, to justify an arrest... though, not so here...

this time, its a big secret...

Originally Posted by alitongkat

please dont call it the "early stages of an investigation such as this one" - when they have already arrested the alleged killer...

That's exactly where this investigation is, in it's early stages.

Originally Posted by alitongkat

if someone is arrested, the public normally gets told what they have found, to justify an arrest... though, not so here... this time, its a big secret...

The police will be persuing other lines of enquiry to the ones which have been openly made public. Why would they disclose the nature of these investigations if it meant having a detrimental effect on their investigation?

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

I'll go with Buriamboy on this one as i too don't believe they have sufficient evidence to charge the guy, hiowever, his reluctance to provide answers during an interview and also his demeanor may have given the police sufficient cause to believe that he is indeed the culprit. The fact that the CPS have co-operated with the police in ensuring that the suspect remains in police custody whilst the search continues also emphasises the lack of evidence available.

The fact that he has been charged with murder would suggest they have evidence to the contrary of your belief, and that as a group of experts with all the most up-to-date information and evidence available to them, believe that in all probability, he is guilty of playing a major part in her disappearance.

I'll stick with the old bill on this one.

I suspect that the charge of attempting to pervert the course of justice may have allowed the suspect to successfully apply for bail which is something the police did not wish to occur so the requirement to provide a more serious charge to ensure he remained in custody, was of the utmost importance.

In my opinion, if the evidence had been there then the guy would have been, as required by law, charged earlier, without the need to continually request an extension of custody for questioning to the maximum period permitted. It clearly wasn't and without such evidence a conviction on simply a strong hunch would not prove successful although i suspect Barry George may not agree. (Well, to be fair in his case there wasn't even a hunch )

Just watched the church service for April live on Sky TV.
Massive turnout and very emotional.
Hope the fucking bastard responsible was watching.

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

I suspect that the charge of attempting to pervert the course of justice may have allowed the suspect to successfully apply for bail which is something the police did not wish to occur so the requirement to provide a more serious charge to ensure he remained in custody, was of the utmost importance.

Complete and utter bollocks ! Do you think police in the UK charge people with the offence of murder just for the fun of it ? As a matter of convenience ? Your brain is not working properly.

Again, you need to read all the post and refer to the Barry George case before making such comments.

I am in no way saying that this guy is innocent merely that evidence is required for a conviction.

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

Again, you need to read all the post and refer to the Barry George case before making such comments.

I am in no way saying that this guy is innocent merely that evidence is required for a conviction.

Do you think that the police should be making this evidence available to the public ? Does a prosecution require the support of the general populace before it can proceed ? The Barry George case has no bearing on any other.

^ Correct, Barry George was a very rare fuck up but this case is very different but the DNA from his car will show more.
I still think the Serbs. murdered Jill Dando but thats for another day.

Originally Posted by alitongkat

if someone is arrested, the public normally gets told what they have found, to justify an arrest... though, not so here...

I didn't they they were told everything and certainly not enough to prejudice the jury...don't want a mistrial...and all the extra suffering that involves...

Originally Posted by dobella

And believe me

why? have you experience in these matters?

Originally Posted by sunsetter

why? have you experience in these matters?

I have no experience in nothing except replying to fuckwits stupid posts.

Originally Posted by dobella

^ Correct, Barry George was a very rare fuck up but this case is very different but the DNA from his car will show more.
I still think the Serbs. murdered Jill Dando but thats for another day.

You would be correct in believing that the Serbs murdered Jill Dando, Dobella.

However, despite the police knowing such they fitted Barry George, who was not a particularly good citizen as he had a habit of stalking women, for the murder.

The police deliberately took him off the streets and got a conviction for murder knowing he wasn't involved. Jack Straw also had that information to hand but failed to offer compensation when he was eventually aquitted after 8 years inside. I believe the case is now going before the Supreme Court in order that justice is served.

Unfortunately his case does not stand alone as others also have been the subject of false accusations and unsafe convictions. The falsehoods that were told during the past 23 years over the Hillsborough disaster are also about to be corrected.

The police in this case are under a great deal of pressure to hold on to the guy who they believe has knowledge of the whereabouts of April. If/when she is found then more evidence may be gathered to secure either a conviction or release of the suspect. There is no doubting the dedication of the officers and volunteers involved.

do you remember the case with the "french student murders"?
they locked up two guys, who did all and everything (petty criminals), but NOT look like the cctv shots of the killers... that was in london...

Quite a few bleeding heart liberals posting on the forum these days.