Wayne Kerr Goes Lizard Farming in Vietnam

[Wayne Kerr]

All in all a decent little trip. Must say that November-December is rainy season in Nha Trang so I didn't venture out onto any of the beaches or islands for Nha Trang is famous. I must recommend checking out BobCocks Nha Trang thread for some flashy pictures with blue skies and seas - https://teakdoor.com/vietnam-nepal-an...nha-trang.html (Bobcock in Vietnam - Part 5 - Nha Trang)

[aging one]

The worms look like Hoy Lot that are quite famous in samut songkram. They are also harvested in the mangoes. Same? Nice thread mate.

[Wayne Kerr]

The worms look like Hoy Lot that are quite famous in samut songkram. They are also harvested in the mangoes. Same?

Nah mate. Hoi lot is a razor clam, yes I've seen them at Don Hoi Lot too and they do look similar once they come out of the shell. The worms are a sipunculid ... both are southeast Asian delicacies in my book.

[aging one]

good enough thanks,

[boatboy]

^^
Vietnam latest news - Thanh Nien Daily

Pets eh?

And here was me thinking dust lightly in flour, salt and pepper, quick dip in some hot oil and dunk in some sort of dipping sauce

[boatboy]

[MORE TO COME AFTER DINNER]

^ They bung them in small cages like this for live transport to the restaurants … they are simply grilled whole on a barbecue and taste like a cross between chicken and fish

Whoops, looks like that is exactly what happens to 'em

[Happyman]

The worms look like Hoy Lot that are quite famous in samut songkram. They are also harvested in the mangoes. Same?

Nah mate. Hoi lot is a razor clam, yes I've seen them at Don Hoi Lot too and they do look similar once they come out of the shell. The worms are a sipunculid ... both are southeast Asian delicacies in my book.

Worms and razor clams
A slight diversion for anglers -"fisho's" in Oz I believe!!!

Razor clam are what we called Razor fish in UK - In Taiwan they are called "Bamboo Shell" and whereas in UK they are about 6" long In Taiwan they are only maybe a third of that !
We used to use the UK ones for bait when beach fishing for bass- and left over ones steamed- chilled and with a salad!
How do they gather them in Vietnam - same as Taiwan where they rake them out of the sand?
In UK they are maybe 24" under the surface at low tide and we could only gather them by filling a "squeezy" bottle with sea water in one hand and walking the beach at low tide looking for a sort of 'keyhole' shaped hole in the sand.
In the other hand you carried an old bicycle spoke !

Find a hole
Squirt some water down it
Put your spoke in about a foot down with the button end that fits in the hub downwards.
Wait for a minute - the razor fish thinks the tide has come in and starts to work its way bask to the surface
You feel a sharp tap as the shell hits the spoke and then a soft movement as it explores with its long 'foot'- - twist and pull the thing out before it can let go !!!
On Rhossili and Oxwich beaches in Wales you could fill a bucket in 30 mins !

Good fishing and a grilled bass with a razor fish side salad for dinner !!

Worms
Have seen them but never been brave enough to try them !
Have bought a lot from stalls though for bait !

Get some polystyrene packing beads.
Cut a small piece off and stuff it down the open end of the worm.
Set up a longish soft action rod with light line and a medium size hook .
No weights or float .
Hook the worm in the other end and flick it out into a mangrove creek just as the tide starts to run out.
It puts mangrove jacks and barramundi into a feedin frenzy as it floats down !
The head holds it up like a float and the hook is at the bottom end which is where the fish hit it first!

Sorry for the ramble but some TDers might want to try !

PS I used to be the host for an 'agony aunt' column in a couple of fishing magazines and old habits die hard

Back to the thread

[Bobcock]

I think i would have enjoyed Nha Trang a lot more with a visit to a lizard farm.....

.....and that bar.

[Nawty]

How do you say 'jacky jacky' in vietnamese

[Johnny Longprong]

Have seen them but never been brave enough to try them ! Have bought a lot from stalls though for bait !

Sounds like fun. Have you bought mangrove worms in Australia as bait HM?

[Wayne Kerr]

How do you say 'jacky jacky' in vietnamese

Boom Boom seems a popular one apparently

[Happyman]

Have seen them but never been brave enough to try them ! Have bought a lot from stalls though for bait !

Sounds like fun. Have you bought mangrove worms in Australia as bait HM?

No - only went to Oz once - Lima- Sydney- Broken Hill for 2 weeks eating dust in the mine and straight back by the same route !! Not many mangroves there.

Used to get them in Kenting ( the only bit of tropical forest/mangrove ) in Taiwan
and also in East and West Malaysia.
Only managed to get half a dozen uncooked worms here in Phuket but got 4 jacks and a barra ( seakap) in one session on 'em !

[charles1949]

Thanks Very Interesting

[sunsetter]

How do you say 'jacky jacky' in vietnamese

Boom Boom seems a popular one apparently

ive heard yum yum 'goes down' well

[Jock Itch]

sounds like a good trip wayne !!

- I'll be sure to take a shovel with me on my next trip to the north, and have a dig around for these legendary worms !
will have to get one of my mates keep watch for the very very large lizards that live around the mangroves in Nth Oz !

[Rattanaburi]

Great pics Wayne. Interesting stuff too.

[sabang]

people keep them as pets don't they?

Not Mrs sabang. Meet the meat.

[Up2U]

Vietnam seizes a ton of monitor lizards
Hanoi - Police in Vietnam have seized more than a ton of live wild monitor lizards being smuggled from central Vietnam to the country's northern provinces, where they might have been destined for China, officials said Tuesday.
The lizards were found Sunday packed in wooden boxes on a truck heading north from Quang Tri province, 580 kilometers south of Hanoi, said Tran Xuan Vinh, head of the province's Economic Police Department.
'We seized 1,012 kilograms of monitor lizards and arrested the driver of the truck immediately,' Vinh said.
The driver of the truck, Vu Van Duong, 36, confessed to the police that he was hired to transport the animals to the north, the police official said.
'We have launched an investigation into the case to find the leaders of the ring,' Vinh said. 'The reptiles were probably destined for restaurants in either Hanoi or China.'
The police have transferred the lizards to the province's Forest Management Department, which will release them into the wild.
Smuggling wild animals is rampant in Vietnam, where eating wild animals is an elite habit of the rich. Vietnam seized more than 66 tons of smuggled wild animals last year.
According to Vietnamese law, smuggling wild animals is subject to a prison term of up to seven years and a cash fine of 20 million dong (1,250 dollars).


There is certainly a market for those things Wayne. Do you reckon they would be keen on Goanna?

But are 'farmed' lizards wild? What exactly does the law say?

Are there certain species defined as protected (a la CITES)?

[Nawty]

will have to get one of my mates keep watch for the very very large lizards that live around the mangroves in Nth Oz !

They called crocodiles...