Thread: Why Obama will Win

Originally Posted by Norton

As for myself, I will remain a pillar of reason and rational debate

The veritable rock upon which TeakDoor and all sensible exchanges of information is based upon.

ladies, and gentlemen . . . we give you: Norton

Originally Posted by panama hat

Obama and Communist . . . even Socialist . . . what a total joke. It is as far-fetched as likening McCain to Hiltler or Pinochet.

A tad unfair. Both communism and socialism are ideals. Hitler and Pinochet are individuals. It would be like me saying that if you supported communism, you went in for Stalin - when in fact you could be Trotskyite

Originally Posted by William

Originally Posted by panama hat

Obama and Communist . . . even Socialist . . . what a total joke. It is as far-fetched as likening McCain to Hiltler or Pinochet.

A tad unfair. Both communism and socialism are ideals. Hitler and Pinochet are individuals. It would be like me saying that if you supported communism, you went in for Stalin - when in fact you could be Trotskyite

A tad, perhaps . . . would the term Fascist be more applicable . . . ?

^no. But (and, if allowed, I would vote for BO), to a shareholder of a major bank, his 3 month moratorium on mortgage repossessions is nothing short of socialist. His overall ideals may not be - but...

^ and how would you classify what essentially amounts to the nationalization of the banking sector by the bush administration (essentially paulson) and bernanke?

^I think the Bush, Jnr. adminstration has had to face many of the most difficult questions/issues of the last 30-50 years.

I also think the administration has failed in every step.

I didn't - and do not - agree with the bail-out of Wall Street. Unless we now enter a period of economic growth unseen in 50 years - our kids (unborn) will be paying for our mistakes.

But those are only my views

^^ well, taking single issues at their face value
I don't believe any politician can be classified as being 'this' or 'that'.

However, the precedence was set by ridiculously labeling Obama as a communist/socialist . . .

My parents were posted to Czechoslovakia in the mid to late 70's (which made me endure my Benedictine Abbey boarding school) . . . and political directions there bear absolutely ZERO resemblance to the 'branding we have here.

Communism and Socialism in the US . . . nowhere near it. Spurious approach.

i think the current label of choice is 'marxist'. 555

^^ Czechoslovakia, as I understand, was a Woodrow Wilson creation. So I guess it is stange how things turn out

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Reach-around Ray will be foremost in favor of banning Country Western Music.

Isn't everybody?

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Reach-around Ray will be foremost in favor of banning Country Western Music.

Isn't everybody?

You obviously have no taste.
Only music better is some Issan Maw Laam

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

After the Libtards have abolished talk radio with the Unfairness Doctrine and neutered the Internet with Net Neutrality

The Fairness Doctrine just allows for two balanced viewpoints, instead of one.

The masses are not sophisticated enough to listen t only one viewpoint.

The Fairness Doctrine is fair.

^
That smacks of Orwellian Big Brother there, M/M

Country Music banned. I might consider moving back...

Not until they burn their guitars!

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^
That smacks of Orwellian Big Brother there, M/M

One sided distortions and outright lies smack of Orwellian Big Brother.

And these right-wing TV and radio shows rarely if ever, cite their sources.

Originally Posted by Milkman

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

^
That smacks of Orwellian Big Brother there, M/M

One sided distortions and outright lies smack of Orwellian Big Brother.

And these right-wing TV and radio shows rarely if ever, cite their sources.

I think it is funny when those on the right, the far right, evoke fears of Big Brother . . .

Originally Posted by Milkman

If there is a big brother it's the ever growing governments of many nation-states, domestic spying, lobbyists and special interest groups. __________________

I'm trying to think of a democracy where special interest groups and lobbyists are very powerful but can't come up with one

Originally Posted by Milkman

I've read "1984," and it's a good book.

Excellent book

The Obama Plan


btw..it's not a joke...



Barack Obama discovers a leak under his sink, so he calls Joe the Plumber to come and fix it.


Joe drives to Obama's house, which is located in a very nice neighborhood and where it's clear that all the residents make more than $250,000 per year.

Joe arrives and takes his tools into the house. Joe is led to the room that contains the leaky pipe under a sink. Joe assesses the problem and tells Obama, who is standing near the door, that it's an easy repair that will take less than 10 minutes.
Obama asks Joe how much it will cost.

Joe immediately says, '$9,500.'

'$9,500?' Obama asks, stunned. 'But you said it's an easy repair!'

'Yes, but what I do is charge a lot more to my clients who make more than $250,000 per year so I can fix the plumbing of everybody who makes less than that for free,' explains Joe. 'It's always been my philosophy. As a matter of fact, I lobbied government to pass this philosophy as law, and it did pass earlier this year, so now all plumbers have to do business this way. It's known as 'Joe's Fair Plumbing Act of 2008.' Surprised you haven't heard of it, senator.'

In spite of that, Obama tells Joe there's no way he's paying that much for a small plumbing repair, so Joe leaves.
Obama spends the next hour flipping through the phone book looking for another plumber, but he finds that all other plumbing businesses listed have gone out of business. Not wanting to pay Joe's price, Obama does nothing.

The leak under Obama's sink goes unrepaired for the next several days.

A week later the leak is so bad that Obama has had to put a bucket under the sink. The bucket fills up quickly and has to be emptied every hour, and there's a risk that the room will flood, so Obama calls Joe and pleads with him to return.
Joe goes back to Obama's house, looks at the leaky pipe, and says 'Let's see ˆ this will cost you about $21,000.'
'A few days ago you told me it would cost $9,500!' Obama quickly fires back.

Joe explains the reason for the dramatic increase. 'Well, because of the 'Joe's Fair Plumbing Act,' a lot of rich people are learning how to fix their own plumbing, so there are fewer of you paying for all the free plumbing I'm doing for the people who make less than $250,000. As a result, the rate I have to charge my wealthy paying customers rises every day.

'Not only that, but for some reason the demand for plumbing work from the group of people who get it for free has skyrocketed, and there's a long waiting list of those who need repairs. This has put a lot of my fellow plumbers out of business, and they're not being replaced ˆ nobody is going into the plumbing business because they know they won't make any money. I'm hurting now too ˆ all thanks to greedy rich people like you who won't pay their fair share.'

Obama tries to straighten out the plumber: 'Of course you're hurting, Joe! Don't you get it? If all the rich people learn how to fix their own plumbing and you refuse to charge the poorer people for your services, you'll be broke, and then what will you do?'

Joe immediately replies, 'Run for president, apparently.'

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^ President Obama has already been elected, Convincingly. By the People.

Are you a permanent member of the Moaning Class now booner?

Originally Posted by sabang

^ President Obama has already been elected, Convincingly. By the People.

Are you a permanent member of the Moaning Class now booner?

Buyers Remorse will set in shortly...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Buyers Remorse will set in shortly

Obama is not the Messiah! (he's a very naughty boy)