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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Sorry Mendip but The Bishops Arms is only an expensive tourist trap, there are two more of them in Gothenburg and forty all over Sweden.
    They all look the same, if you've been in one of them then you've been in all of them.
    The one you visited is not there because a lot of people go pubing in that part of town, it is there because of the hotel there which is owned by the same chain.
    There is one (without hotel) opposite the watch shop I recommended at Linnegatan (which is the dine and drink street of Gothenburg).

    I do suspect though that Red Lion in Majorna has a much more folksly atmosphere than this sterile chain pub.

    maaate,

    this is sterile.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    And whatever is this place?


    It looks like a power plant to me.

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    ^ Houses in Gothenburg are mainly heated by hot water and this is one of a couple of hot water plants in the city, this one is using oil and natural gas and it also generates some electricity.

    "Rosenlundsverket's production capacity today is 662 MW heat and 36 MW electricity, calculated as given heat and electricity output, respectively."

    Gothenburg is also using excess heat from the refineries and heat from garbage burning in this hot water pipeline which covers the whole city.
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    ^ Good stuff, but I expect an awful lot of heat is wasted as the steam/hot water makes its way to the houses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Good stuff, but I expect an awful lot of heat is wasted as the steam/hot water makes its way to the houses.
    Some but the pipes are buried two meters down in the ground (frost free depth) and are well isolated with hard polyurethane foam inside.

    My post-lockdown commute back to work-powerpipe_produktgrupper_0050-jpg

    The power plant in Mendips picture is nowadays only a backup, most of the hot water is generated from energy that in the past was wasted so transfer losses are not something to cry about.
    The temperature of the water at the plants is 70° celcius in the summer and 100° in the winter, it is fed to a heat exchanger in the connected houses were it becomes 60° for tap water and radiators.

    The other side of the river, opposite Mendips office, are full of refineries and there were when I was young some huge flames burning there almost round the clock and the area kilometers around was dirty of soot and noisy.
    Today those refineries are clean and silent.
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    This is the view out the front of my office, and I've been told that the great big silver tower on the far side of the docks is for hot water storage. It was only finished being built last year.

    Maybe this is part of the hot water heating system? It's just on the outskirts of the huge refinery area... so maybe the heat generated there is stored?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    It was only finished being built last year.
    so I know nothing about it


    Edit:
    but google knows

    "By 2025 at the latest, Göteborg Energi will phase out all fossil fuels from the district heating system. To achieve the goal, we are therefore building an accumulator tank that will act as a warming battery for the city."
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    Nice weather.

    Do you have any time to throw a line in and try catch a mermaid?

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    ^ I took that pic four weeks ago when I arrived... it's cold and wet today.

    There's a girl geo 'mermaid' who arrived in the office last week who I've got my eye on and may throw a line...

    She let slip it's her 30th Birthday coming up... so finally someone 'age appropriate'!

    This is a very young company.

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    ^ Don't do it mate!

    Think about your daughter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    ^ Don't do it mate!

    Think about your daughter!

    Mendip
    Take no notice of this advice and go for it, you never know.

    As you probably know due to my posts here, as I am sure I would have mentioned it somewhere.
    Anyway my first wife died when my daughter was just 2 years old and thereafter every time I looked like hooking up with a lady people said think of your daughter, whatever that means.
    I used to tell them, "I am, how can she be happy if her Dads not?".
    My reasoning was and still is try to put yourself in the right frame of mind so that they are or feel secure and happy then they will grow up not tarnished by the shit that happens to you, them and everyone.

    Good luck.

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    What happens in Sweden, stays in Sweden.

    Get your tackle out Mendip and see what bites.

    Women in there 30's are attracted to men in their 50's.

    She's even given you a hint , she's after a birthday present.

    Just be careful she's not a complete bunny boiler before you let her bounce on your trampoline.

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    Knob her.

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    ^ Well, this went down hill fast!

    I'm not sure the decision will be mine... I think she looks at me as more of a father figure. But I love a challenge so we shall see


    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    @mendip - hang in there & good luck in your future plans. Request: can you get a can of surstromming & sample it? Do it with the windows open, though. Cheers!
    And another challenge. This was one that I was happy to avoid. But I don't know... stupidity took over today, or maybe I've just been working too long.

    I picked up this at the local supermarket yesterday... and it wasn't cheap.



    The ingredients...



    It all looked pretty harmless, but I've been warned about this surströmming before. It's basically rotten herring in a can... a delicacy in these parts but I've heard that kind of talk before.

    My Norwegian mate said the smell's so bad it should be opened underwater. He offered to take some pics for me, but said he'd use the zoom and wanted to stand at least 5 metres away. Bearing all this in mind I decided to try it out doors as I didn't want to stink out my accommodation.

    So off we went after work tonight to find somewhere suitable.

    Perfect... a deserted Gothenburg beach with a table just sitting there waiting.



    I set the table... a brand new tin opener specially bought for the occasion and a tin of Heineken ready to wash the fish down.



    All set... I even took of my coat and put it well out of the way. I was starting to have second thoughts about this.... my Norwegian mate was unusually cheerful.


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    Couldn't possibly taste and smell any worse than that fermented Thai mud fish?

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    I leaned back to open the tin in case anything spurted out... but no.

    In fact I couldn't understand what all the fuss was about.



    And then, Jesus Christ... the smell hit me. A rancid dead dog and pla ra stench all in one. I tried to drain the juice away and got the putrid stuff all over my hands... it bladdy stank. It really was awful. I wiped my hands on my jeans by mistake... (they now stink, as does my coat and even my phone).



    But what can ya do... gotta try it once you've gone that far...



    Now, I can eat almost anything so long as it's not pet maak maak... but not this. About the only thing I can't stomach is pla ra and the neighbour's dark brown Ya Dong... they both give me neck shake. But now I've found a third thing... surströmming... I cannot possibly see how anyone can enjoy, or even just stomach it.

    I love fish... fresh or smoked... and it's not the slimy texture of this awful stuff... I love gravlaks and pickled herring. This was something different... you could just taste the disgusting putrid rottenness of rancid rotting fish. It was absolutely revolting... and the smell... God... a rotting stench that went right up the back of the nostrils... no way should this be food.



    Back where they belong...



    Never again...



    Empty tin, towel and bowl... all in the bin. They were not coming back with me.

    The smell...




    Katie... you owe me!









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    You know what to buy the missus for Christmas now

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    You wiped your hands on your jeans!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Never again...
    pussy!

    (next time rinse it under water first to get rid of most of the fermented juices..)

    gravlax btw is made in a similar way as surströmming, I think the difference is only the time of fermentation

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    next time rinse it under water first to get rid of most of the fermented juices..)

    now you tell him

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    now you tell him
    useless, I had already told him not to buy it cause he wouldn't like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    This looked promising!

    But surely there should be an apostrophe in there? Where's Cyrille when you need him?
    In the absence of any better informed opinion and being in need of some displacement activity just to keep occupied, I would say:

    Standard grammar requires an apostrophe, its location helping us to know how many bishops are involved.
    One bishop: The Bishop's Arms.
    More than one bishop: The Bishops' Arms.

    That said, business names sometimes dispense with the apostrophe, which probably helps make things a whole lot easier for everybody. So I can give you for example "Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen, Inc." Popeyes

    Probably there are lots more examples out there.

    A similar example would be "Shorts" as the often used name for Short Brothers plc.

    Separately, the very idea of rotten fish is dreadful enough. Then people have the nerve to put it in a can and sell it. Then people buy the stuff?

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    Some more displacement activity for you Shutree.

    This is well worth a listen... from my neck of the woods.


    BBC Radio 4 - The 'Apostrophiser'



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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    Have you been to the Red Lion yet?
    It's taken me a month... but finally made it last night!

    My Norwegian mate is heading back to Bergen tomorrow and he wants to make the most of the 'inexpensive' alcohol prices in Sweden. I guess the only good thing about being Norwegian is that everywhere else you go seems cheap.



    There is some hope for Sweden...



    And it was nice to see they can do something with a fish other than let it rot and stick it in a tin.



    But I had to ask for the peas as an extra... my first portion in months.



    There was also some outstanding scenery in The Red Lion which seems par for the course for Sweden, but in the interests of not getting arrested I didn't take any pics.

    Some different scenery... it's not quite The Clifton Suspension Bridge but looks nice at night.




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