Death Penalty

**Neo** · 25-09-2011, 05:56 PM

The US state of Georgia recently executed Troy Davis, a man held for 20 years before being executed, even though there were doubts about the conviction.

Here is a list of the countries that retain the death penalty for ordinary crimes, courtesy of Amnesty International.

Afghanistan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Botswana, Chad, China, Comoros, Democratic Republic of Congo, Cuba, Dominica, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Guatemala, Guinea, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Lesotho, Libya, Malaysia, Mongolia, Nigeria, North Korea, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Taiwan, Thailand, Trinidad And Tobago, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United States Of America, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe.

Needless to say, this is some rather dubious company that the United States of America finds itself.

So is the death penalty still a useful tool of the justice system as a punishment and a deterrent or is it an outdated and inherently barbaric form of punishment that has no place in a progressive modern society.?

**DrAndy** · 25-09-2011, 06:05 PM

it is hardly a deterrent

if it was, then there would be no use of it

**Tickiteboo** · 25-09-2011, 06:16 PM

^ agree with the doc - I voted life but that should mean life, not 10 or 12 years.

**Mid** · 25-09-2011, 06:21 PM

quite simple really , one innocent man executed is too many .

**English Noodles** · 25-09-2011, 06:30 PM

I'm an avid proponent of Capital punishment. I would love to see it reintroduced in to the UK. Let's not forget that although abolished in the UK, many Commonwealth jurisdictions retain the death penalty and the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in London remains the final court of appeal for these cases.

**david44** · 25-09-2011, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

I'm an avid proponent of Capital punishment. I would love to see it reintroduced in to the UK. Let's not forget that although abolished in the UK, many Commonwealth jurisdictions retain the death penalty and the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in London remains the final court of appeal for these cases.

An opinion almost as repellent as the racist quote below
Waht is EN

limp linguine?

**DrAndy** · 25-09-2011, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Mid

quite simple really , one innocent man executed is too many .

obviously, but I would extend that to any person executed is one too many

**superman** · 25-09-2011, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Mid

quite simple really , one innocent man executed is too many .

If asked, I doubt you find anyone admitting themselves guilty if faced with death, or life in jail. They're all innocent. It was a miscarriage of justice.

**Fondles** · 25-09-2011, 06:52 PM

I find it a crime against humanity to keep someone so long on death row, kill the cunts sooner not later.

**superman** · 25-09-2011, 06:59 PM

^ Is it not the person that's on death row that prolongs his/her own execution ?

**Wallalai** · 25-09-2011, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

Needless to say, this is some rather dubious company that the United States of America finds itself.

There is no death penalty in the US for being gay. Unless most if not all the muslim dictatorships and a few african countries.

And no stoning for adultery, and so on ...

**superman** · 25-09-2011, 07:34 PM

Watching a game of baseball has to be the worse thing, next to being lethally injected ?

**Marmite the Dog** · 25-09-2011, 07:38 PM

The only people who think the death penalty is a just deterrent/punishment are mentally retarded.

**dirtydog** · 25-09-2011, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

I'm an avid proponent of Capital punishment. I would love to see it reintroduced in to the UK

Should be made a spectator sport, maybe they could televise it and people could vote on how the person is executed a week before the execution, ie hanging, drowning, cutting up into little bits with a chainsaw, stuck in a cage with a lion, so many options and people could submit there own ideas on how to execute people and that could be added to next weeks choices.

**superman** · 25-09-2011, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Should be made a spectator sport, maybe they could televise it and people could vote on how the person is executed a week before the execution, ie hanging, drowning, cutting up into little bits with a chainsaw, stuck in a cage with a lion, so many options and people could submit there own ideas on how to execute people and that could be added to next weeks choices.

You been watching Arnold Schwarzenegger in 'Running Man' ?

**yortyiam** · 25-09-2011, 07:52 PM

^^ Death penalty " It's a knockout " I'd pay to go ( just the once like) only to see if it made the relatives of the wronged feel any better.

**SEA Traveler** · 25-09-2011, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

Here is a list of the countries that retain the death penalty for ordinary crimes, courtesy of Amnesty International.

Afghanistan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Botswana, Chad, China, Comoros, Democratic Republic of Congo, Cuba, Dominica, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Guatemala, Guinea, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Lesotho, Libya, Malaysia, Mongolia, Nigeria, North Korea, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Taiwan, Thailand, Trinidad And Tobago, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United States Of America, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe.

murdering a police officer is hardly an ordinary crime.

**superman** · 25-09-2011, 08:00 PM

^ May be it's 'ordinary' where Neo comes from ?

**Neo** · 25-09-2011, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by SEA Traveler

Originally Posted by Neo

Here is a list of the countries that retain the death penalty for ordinary crimes, courtesy of Amnesty International.

Afghanistan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Botswana, Chad, China, Comoros, Democratic Republic of Congo, Cuba, Dominica, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Guatemala, Guinea, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Lesotho, Libya, Malaysia, Mongolia, Nigeria, North Korea, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Taiwan, Thailand, Trinidad And Tobago, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United States Of America, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe.

murdering a police officer is hardly an ordinary crime.

Although I don't exactly know the reason why Amnesty International use that term, my guess is that they also deal with many extra-ordinary crimes such as Afghani wedding parties being bombed or Royhinga refugees being forced to return to sea with no provisions.

So from the point of view of Amnesty International, in relative terms the murder of a police officer is a rather ordinary crime.

**OhOh** · 25-09-2011, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by SEA Traveler

murdering a police officer is hardly an ordinary crime.

The law makes no difference between "the police" and any other person, nor should the judges. Or are you suggesting that government employees are above the law? As suggested by the US soldier being given a 7 year sentence for murdering a child with a machine gun?

**billy the kid** · 25-09-2011, 08:20 PM

if like troy davis you are innocent
then capital punishment is barbaric
society has other ways of dealing with murder
and depending on circumstances 'uk anyway'
like the york ripper, you can do life,
and never ever be released.

**superman** · 25-09-2011, 08:26 PM

^ But life in a secure mental institution, as what the 'Yorkshire ripper' is subjected to, isn't no hardship from what I understand. Hence why people admit guilt, to murder, on the grounds of insanity.

**FailSafe** · 25-09-2011, 08:38 PM

I'd be happy to pull the switch on the two men who raped and killed a mother and her two daughters (and nearly killed the father) during a home invasion a few years ago in Connecticut (one of them was already sentenced to death, and the trial of the other one is in progress)- I guess I'm just cruel and barbaric- it may be more civilized to allow them to live out their natural lives in the relative comfort of prison in spite of the lives they brutally cut short, but I just don't care.

**English Noodles** · 25-09-2011, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I'd be happy to pull the switch on the two men who raped and killed a mother and her two daughters (and nearly killed the father) during a home invasion a few years ago in Connecticut (one of them was already sentenced to death, and the trial of the other one is in progress)- I guess I'm just cruel and barbaric- it may be more civilized to allow them to live out their natural lives in the relative comfort of prison in spite of the lives they brutally cut short, but I just don't care.

Oh, look. You must be mentally retarded. Some people thing giving them the latest spec computers and video games to play on is a much better punishment.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The only people who think the death penalty is a just deterrent/punishment are mentally retarded.

**superman** · 25-09-2011, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The only people who think the death penalty is a just deterrent/punishment are mentally retarded.

Nobody has claimed it is, on this forum.

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