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    Pattaya Beach is CLEAN - The News Responds to Socal

    Above Bawd in Pattaya

    By John Thomas

    The urban myth that Pattaya beach is dirty

    I was as overjoyed as the next beach-avoider when I saw the title of this topic on
    the Teakdoor website recently.

    But just as I was pulling on my swimming trunks and bathing cap to dive into the
    sea near the water/sewage outflow pipe at the top of Walking Street (near the
    well-located sewage treatment centre), I paused for a moment and read some of
    the posts.

    It all started with a non-Pattaya resident poster called Socal, who boldly advanced
    the argument that Pattaya’s beaches are actually clean, using some internet-
    garnered scientific cut and paste resources and ending with the comment:

    The beach is not dirty, it is safe to swim in, and every rumor you hear out there is
    bullshit.


    Of course, to many who actually live in Pattaya, it wasn’t bull effluent that
    concerned them, but that of a human kind, and the poster received a well-
    deserved blast from some thoughtful, intelligent and well-informed posters on
    the subject of the treatment of waste in our fair city. And some plain abusive ones
    too.

    Mind you the poster didn’t help himself or his argument when he mistakenly
    posted a nice photograph of JOMTIEN beach and its cleaner sea, instead of
    Pattaya Beach, as a way of advancing his argument about the cleanliness of the
    seawater in Pattaya bay.

    He was pulled up on this by Dirtydog: Jomtien is ok, I have seen cleaner places in
    the world, but trying to prove that Pattaya beach is clean by posting a photo of
    Jomtien beach is slightly misleading to say the least.


    Some really disturbing facts came out of this topic. For example, Dirtydog
    made the point that although Pattaya’s rainwater drainage should just contain
    rainwater, in fact it is a very common practice in the city for old shophouses,
    especially those in sois close to the beach, to connect their waste pipes and cess
    pits containing raw sewage into it.

    Loy Toy also said this is common in residential properties throughout the city.

    As this stormwater exits into the sea, in both Pattaya and Jomtien, it inevitably
    carries more than rainwater with it.

    Also hold that thought for when the city’s streets are flooded in storms and you
    have to walk through the resulting lakes and rivers of water.

    Halfmile said: No sea-birds at the beach, nor any crabs running in the sand at
    sunset. Pattaya Beach seems to be a maritime deathzone.


    Perhaps the reasons for that were highlighted by posters such as Lostandfound,
    who said:
    It's not just Pattaya city shit to worry about, there's a whole petro-chemical
    industry up the coast pumping out who knows what, plus all of Bangkok's crap
    coming down the Chao Phraya River.


    Norton disturbingly expanded on this theme: The quality of Pattaya sewage
    treatment is a factor in polluting its beach. Even if their sewage treatment
    was so good the output could be bottled and sold as Pattaya Pure Mountain
    Spring water, Pattaya beach would still have a significant pollution problem.
    Being "down stream", everything dumped into the Chao Phraya River (industrial
    waste, sewage, city drainage water), Samut Prakan (industrial waste, pesticides,
    prawn farming waste) and Chon Buri (industrial waste and pesticides) ends up
    at Pattaya beach and everywhere else on the Eastern seaboard albeit somewhat
    diluted from the source.


    Loy Toy succinctly hit another nail on the head when he said: Pattaya, in fact the
    whole of Chon Buri Province, has a major problem, and that is development versus infrastructure availability.

    A great example of Thailand in general. Not enough infrastructure to handle the
    amount of traffic.


    I live quite close to the biggest waste water plant in Pattaya and it has not been
    upgraded in the last 10 years yet the number of people living in the area has
    grown 100 fold.

    Without going into too much detail I have had senior council officials stand in
    front of me and admit they have allowed whole communities to pipe their sewage
    pipes directly into the storm water systems and those pipes go nowhere near the
    waste water treatment plants.

    This water ends up flowing into Pattaya Bay, everyone knows it including the TAT
    and the hotel association.


    At this stage I would at least like to balance this commentary with some credible
    arguments as to why the waters of Pattaya ARE cleaner than we think. However
    except for the original poster, Socal, who gamely (and amusingly) stuck to his
    guns, even though he had to move his own goalposts to do it, there wasn’t one
    serious rebuttal of the argument that Pattaya Bay is indeed filthy and hazardous
    to health.

    Next edition – Pattaya’s Polluted Beaches Part 2.

    All comments or Web Board tipoffs gratefully received at jt[at]pattayaone.net



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    I was actually down in the sewers (ooops stormwater drains) with the head of Nongprue district last week and it is fucking filthy beyond belief.

    Another meeting with Khun Mi on Thursday to hear their next excuse.

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    If something smells of shite, then it is either shite or durian, I really don't think people are chucking durian into the rain water drains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    If something smells of shite, then it is either shite or durian
    Or you're listening to socal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I was actually down in the sewers (ooops stormwater drains) with the head of Nongprue district last week and it is fucking filthy beyond belief.

    Another meeting with Khun Mi on Thursday to hear their next excuse.
    Wow, you actually are a Gong Scourer.

    Did you say hello to Gerbil and Buthead down there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinky View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    If something smells of shite, then it is either shite or durian
    Or you're listening to socal
    My whole point is that Pattaya has the same issues as any other beach city of its size. The whole idea that "Pattaya is the dirtiest beach in earth™" is bullshit.

    Water samples from different beaches across the world should taken and compared. That has probably been done, just not sure where to find it or if Pattaya was included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    My whole point is that Pattaya has the same issues as any other beach city of its size.
    No it wasn't you fucking little gay weasel

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    My whole point is that Pattaya has the same issues as any other beach city of its size.
    Even IF it was , and it was not , the statement is still a falsehood , pick ANY Australian beach for comparison


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    I took a jetski out a couple of years ago and even though I only got splashed a few times I came out with an itchy rash that lasted a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    pick ANY Australian beach for comparison
    Or British beach, or American beach, or French beach, or [insert real country here] beach...

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    Waste draining into the ocean is pretty common in Thailand... Hell, go to Koh Chang, right in the main strip there by 7/11 near White Sand Beach there's a large waste drainage area at high tide all of that stuff ends up right into the ocean. God awful smell there too

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    My whole point is that Pattaya has the same issues as any other beach city of its size
    Not at all what you first said as jizzy has pointed out.

    Here is socal digging himself even deeper in a hole.


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    Pattaya's stormwater drains full of human waste and solid pollution. Picture taken by me last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    The whole idea that "Pattaya is the dirtiest beach in earth™" is bullshit.
    Goodness socal doesn't all of your back peddling making you dizzy, you contradict yourself more often than a chronic Altyzmers sufferer.

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    Man. I wish I started to chronical Socal's posts when he first signed up here.
    If 3/4 of what he wrote didn't end up in MKP I could have saved them and made a best-seller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat View Post
    I took a jetski out a couple of years ago and even though I only got splashed a few times I came out with an itchy rash that lasted a week.
    Well you do stick your knob in some strange places.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Or British beach, or American beach, or French beach, or All Of Them have polluted beaches...
    Quote Originally Posted by drawp
    Waste draining into the ocean is pretty common in Thailand
    As it is in all countries that have a sewer system and or rivers.
    Last edited by OhOh; 02-08-2011 at 12:32 AM.

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    I think everyone is being too hard on Social, gay or not! If everyone did as Social does there would not be a problem. If the entire population of Pattaya, held their poop like social then the problem would be solved. But then I suppose everyone else would be full of ....!

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    My whole point is that Pattaya has the same issues as any other beach city of its size. The whole idea that "Pattaya is the dirtiest beach in earth™" is bullshit.
    I wouldn't advise going in the water in Pattaya. Patong Beach is not much better. Pattaya's claim to fame is cheap - food, hotels, beer, hos

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    Quote Originally Posted by socal
    My whole point is that Pattaya has the same issues as any other beach city of its size. The whole idea that "Pattaya is the dirtiest beach in earth™" is bullshit.

    New York beaches ... some of the best in the world. Can ride my bicycle to this one.





    Clean water too


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    ^Do you know how many millions of people dump their shit into the Hudson river?

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    ^ pristine water at this beach numb-nuts

    checked every day

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Do you know how many millions of people dump their shit into the Hudson river?
    ^NFS....in fact the Hudson river was just in the news last week closed for 4 days due to a power outage at the sewer treatment plant and while the power was off, it diverted millions of gallons of raw sewage right into it. 4 days later they reported the bacteria level had dropped to an acceptable level, whatever that means.

    Harlem Wastewater Plant Ends Raw Sewage Dump After Brief Setback - NY1.com


    Quote Originally Posted by Lorenzo
    ^ pristine water at this beach numb-nuts

    checked every day
    ^Looks can be very deceiving. Just because you can see clear water does not mean it is not loaded with bacteria etc.

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    Is that Jones Beach, Lorenzo?

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    Even with the thousands of folks that flock to Copacabana Beach every day, it is clean. Difference is Rio authorities insure it stays pristine as opposed to perhaps some other municipalities that don't give a shit...


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