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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
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    Indeed "they" have.




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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree
    Here's an idea. Why not capture him, tell the world you dumped him in the sea, and spirit him away into a black hole somewhere where you could interrogate the motherfucker at leisure and without criticism from the pinko liberals.
    because he doesn't speak English

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Indeed "they" have.
    come on Norton, don't blame the Brits, they are only coat-tailing

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    come on Norton, don't blame the Brits, they are only coat-tailing
    I think he means the British forces that have been killed by friendly fire from the Americans

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    come on Norton, don't blame the Brits, they are only coat-tailing
    Certainly not blaming the lads who end up 6ft under or worse IMO, disabled for life.

    I don't even "blame" governments because this is what the powerful ones have done throughout history. I blame citizens who do not stand up to their governments to put an end to unwarranted military actions in sovereign nations.

    Whatever nasty things (economic ruin, attacks by enemy combatants or having their country flooded with refugees) befall citizens as a result of allowing their governments to do so should not complain.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    friendly fire
    No such thing DD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    I blame citizens who do not stand up to their governments to put an end to unwarranted military actions in sovereign nations.
    in the UK, there were some of the biggest protests in recent times, the responsible party was voted out of power, the war continues

    so what the people want does not come about, that is the face of modern democracy, a farce

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    so what the people want does not come about, that is the face of modern democracy, a farce
    indeed, it has become a farce

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Considering the domestic and international political fallout if the operation was unsuccessful, it was a gutsy call.
    I doubt we would have heard much about it.

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    The American government had no desire to capture this ex-CIA operative alive. His revelations regarding his relationship with the Bush family would not have been acceptable to the ruling elite.

    A bullet in the head and over the side was the best solution all round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    It is reported that his daughter claims she witnessed him being shot
    then we hear there was only a wife in the room

    Same same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post

    A bullet in the head and over the side was the best solution all round.
    Not for him it wasn't.

    A nice breakfast and a copy of Hello magazine, followed by a game of tennis and shopping for hats bags and shoes with his girlfriends before a light lunch with a few white wine spritzers, then a pedicure.

    That would be an even better solution I think he'd agree.

    You can never have enough accessories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begbie View Post
    The American government had no desire to capture this ex-CIA operative alive. His revelations regarding his relationship with the Bush family would not have been acceptable to the ruling elite.

    A bullet in the head and over the side was the best solution all round.
    So do you think that in exchange for doing the republicans this favout the democrats are allowed a second term?

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    Osama kill in action == Jesus crucification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Obama has nothing to be ashamed of
    Totally true that, apart from the dire state of the US economy, the 44 million who are collecting food stamps, the droves of unemployed masked by bullshit statistics, the state of the dollar and the fact that the whole world pay the premium for the resulting surge in commodity prices, couple that with the fact he came in and promised change when all he has actually done is suck the cock of virtually every big name on Wall Street, yeah I'd say he has nothing to be ashamed of

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    Obama has completely sold out,

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    I'm a little puzzled by this 'gutsy call' story, taking the history of the US into account. Seems like virtually 'just another day' type operation, ignoring the identity of the target, which everybody would have if OBL wasn't there to welcome them.

    Then there is the argument re who was president during the various helicopter crashes. WTF has that got to do with the crashes? American logic?

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    I suppose if there are equipment failures then someone has to be blamed, and that is where the buck stops...supposedly

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    What did they do with Osama's body?

    Actually I have it from my CIA friends that they didn't kill him. They simply put him on a plane to London where he will blend in nicely with a few hundred thousand other illegal Pakistani immigrants living there at present.
    But to be honest I doubt very seriously if the SEAL team that killed him was at all interested in taking him prisoner. That was probably decided in the negative before they started the operation. Any real intel information he had was years old, and he has been out of the command loop to long to be in any real position of leadership. Alive he would have been a target for a terrorist operation as an attempt to free him. He being dead resolves all those problems very neatly.
    The decision to kill him rather than risk capturing was also a political decision..dead he is valuable, as a symbol for the rednacks to cackle over...alive he is worthless. He really hasn't been the "leader" of Al Queda for at least two years, he has been hiding with only limited contact except for a few close trusted friends knowing where he was.
    And I am sure the Pakastani government did NOT want him captured alive...just for the reason that alive he might provide informatin on EXACTLY how he happened to be living in Pakistan for all those years.
    All in all, his being dead rather than captured alive solves a lot of problems for everyone involved.
    To mix metaphors .... they say to let a sleeping dog lie...but a lying dog sleeps with the fishes.


    P.S. If you think the U.S. goverment is going to provide honest factual information about how he actually died...you're rather naive. It will be all "smoke and mirrors", for the news reporters to suck up and regurgitate for a quick headline and the "great unwashed" to believe. That's why the U.S. government (irregardless of which party is in power) employs "media consultants" and "public information officers", as they call them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Whatever nasty things (economic ruin, attacks by enemy combatants or having their country flooded with refugees) befall citizens as a result of allowing their governments to do so should not complain
    Do British citizens get to vote at the Bangkok Embassy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    indeed, it has become a farce
    Does Belgium have a Government yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh
    Do British citizens get to vote at the Bangkok Embassy?
    How would I know. I'm Nigerian. We get to vote in our Embassy. As many times as we like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie
    I doubt we would have heard much about it.
    Carter probably thought the same.

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    You people will never cease to amaze me.
    don't you know that Da Vinci, Galileo , Einstein, Edison and others of their ilk are secreted away in caves in Colorado inventing brainwave machines to manipulate the minds of American citizens. They have yet been unable to achieve on other nationalities due to something called logic.

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