^:D you knew what I meant. JG ain't a stupid American. Just stupid.
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^:D you knew what I meant. JG ain't a stupid American. Just stupid.
I don't like Galt's methods but stickman likes to hand down a fair bit of abuse and insults but gets very high and mighty when someone does the same to him. He stickman needs to think what he really wants with his life King of Whoremongers/ Professional teacher dual roles.
Why all this moralising?Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_dog
Whose business is it, but his?
We all know some teachers who do the bar thing, but are still good, professional teachers.
This is Thailand, for God's sake. It is part of Thai life for Thai professional men too.
If you dont like Stickmans site; DONT READ IT!
^Never met a teacher that doesn't/hasn't done the bar thing......:)
^Well, I dont, and I do know some who dont, but most do, without it making them evil people not fit to teach.
It really is an accepted part of life here and if I, as an older woman can accept it, I don't know why these people have to play the morals card because they dont like his site.
You have to think there is some jealousy involved.
"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to friscofrankie again"Quote:
Originally Posted by friscofrankie
^^really? I must be keeping the wrong company!
Well, you must be keeping different company if you dont know any who do.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickA
I did say that some dont.
^You said most do... I know a couple of people who go to bars once in a while, but not many.
I don't get out much, though.
I guess this depends a lot on location. I know a lot of teachers in Khon Kaen that are married or have gfs and are loyal and have no interest in the bar scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
Theres no bar scene here anyway:eek:
But damn, teaching in Bangers or Chaing Mai where there is a whole different set of temptations for those good telfers of Thailand.
I am not speaking about men with families here. Although I do know a couple who told a friend of mine 'You have to get over this thing about not cheating on your girlfriend. This is Thailand.'
^Oh, I don't know any single people who live in Thailand.
Why would you stay in Thailand if you were single? The world is your oyster:)
I like that expression.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily
^I thought you would.
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Why would anyone be jealous of stickman? Becuase he is ugly, middle-aged Kiiwi white trash? Becuase he is "rich"? If he is rich why is he working at a government school earing 500 quid a month at a job he is not qualified to teach and has no apptitude for? Why did he attempt write the "definitive" guide to teaching in Bangkok when he is a school leaver who has deliberatly deiceved people about his lack of degrees and dimplomas? Would you your child taught by someone like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily
Would you want your child taught by someone who makes his living by stalking bar girls and who has spent close to a decade constantly whoring and then writing, frankly, disturbed stories about the evil nature of "whores? Would you like your child taught by someone who adds reader contributions about sex with child prostitutes in Cambodia to his website?
Stickman and Bangkok Phil are about the worst representatives of teachers in Thailand; uneducated clowns who have no qualms about producing whoring/TEFL websites. They give less morally bereft teachers living here a bad name and encourage other shit bags to come and teach here.
^ no greens available for you right now.
Stick is low, but grassing is still lower.
It is the responsibility of the government to weed out the unsuitable. I cant think of any western country where his kind of dual role could exist unchallenged.
We have to remember that if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. 500-700 quid a month will not bring highly educated, moraly astute men here becuase they remain in thier own countries on proper salaries in proper professions where the money is.
I think most Thais would be (and are) quite happy to have their children taught by people like Stickman & Phil.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_dog
Most of us wouldn't have our children attend EFL classes, so I'm trying to work out what your argument is.
Thai's tend to appraise people on face value. You can put any scumbag in a pair of cheap slacks, black shoes, shirt and tie here and folks will assume you are the real deal because you look like the real deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
Perhaps if parents were better informed of the backgrounds of the gaurdians of their childrens futures they would be a little more discerning.
The governments idea to enforce background checks is a good one but i fear it will drive up the cost of getting decent teachers here and that isnt a good thing.
I was thinking more along the lines of a native speaker doing a fairly good job (not all of them do, but I am fairly sure that Stick & Phil do) as opposed to a Thai 'teacher' giving them a one-dimensional introduction to the wonders of mangled English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spin
I know which one I would prefer.
I still don't understand why there are so many people who equate EFL teaching to a 'high school' teacher. Ignorance is bliss apparantly...
^Stick is a high school teacher though, isn't he?
Agreed, the native speaker is the better option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
I guess the crux of the matter is at what point does teaching here get mixed up with nocturnal persuits.
Many say one has nothing to do with the other, but clearly in the eyes of a westerner it does.
Do Thai's care if their best teachers are also sexpats?
Would they act to remove a teacher who was found to be frequenting naughty bars?
How many Thai school directors have mia nois?
It seems their recent interests in background was more related to qualifications than whether teachers were groping birds in nana during time off.
Not so long ago they would act by sacking female teachers if they were living with a farang, so I don't really think they appreciate the finer qualities of whore mongering teachers like stickman, although he does only goto look of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spin
From what I see:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spin
If you handle your vices out of the public eye like Thais tend to do, most people do not give a toss. When the shit hits the fan though, many seem to fall over each other trying to show their moral outrage and indignation, and the mob always demands a scapegoat.
There are probably a fair number of Thai school directors who have one or more mia nois as that is common among men who can afford it, but I have no idea about any actual figures.
galt is a sociopath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily
i'm not going to defend stickman....i read his site a handful of times before i first came to thailand, but it wasn't for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_dog
what galt did.....posting photoshopped (and arguably) obscene pics of women who worked at stickman's school is beyond the pale.
and what's worse is that he undoubtedly loves the fact that a thread bearing his name has so many posts.
I forgot about that situation. I wonder if its representative of Thailand as a whole though?. Never been a teacher and hopefully never will so i have little idea about the internal politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydog