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    How long is Thailand bearable for?

    For me, it worked like this

    - 1st year - fun and fascinating, felt like a long holiday
    -2nd year - pretty good time but missing some things about home
    - 3rd year - getting tedious, I know that I prefer the UK as a long-term home, and am 100% sure I will be leaving soon
    - final year - getting shite, making plans to leave, then leave

    I know of other people who refer to the 4 year itch, and I fully understand it now. To stay longer than that, IMO, is only for hardcore Thaiophiles, people who hate their birth country, and people who have burned their bridges so can't face going home and starting at the bottom of the ladder again.

    Thailand is a fun, bizarre place to spend a few years and see a different side of life, but as a long-term home, no thanks.

    To throw away the luck of being born in the developed world, my green and pleasant land, in exchange for a poor, hot, developing country, a sleaze and peasant land, and spend my life on visas and permits at the whim of some pig-ignorant immigration official, isn't for me.
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    You had a shag since you been back to UK smeggy?

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    I would say it is bearable as long as your not hard up for cash

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    Fuuny you say that, because I had a six year itch of sorts, and at the moment am enjoying a 'life' in a very nice, green beautiful part of South West UK. It's by the sea and has beautiful beaches unspoilt by ravaging peasants wanting to sell me drinks, umbrellas and overpriced seafood.

    I thought I would not be staying that long here but I realise now that there is quality of life to be had in this country of ours, and like the OP says, living on the whim of some miserable bunch of Thai officials coupled with the boring Thai smiles is severly testing after so long.

    There are many females about too, and you also soon realise that the 'quality' of their claims, (ie not claiming to be a single virgin all the time) are actually true in most cases, and you hardly ever get those phone 'blackspots' you get with Thai girls, (ie phone switched off between 7pm and 8am on certain nights when she said she was 'studying').

    I'll be heading for Japan next time I re-visit Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    Thailand is a fun, bizarre place to spend a few years and see a different side of life, but as a long-term home, no thanks.
    You are the first person who I have heard about that has left LOS on his own accord and not kicking a screaming Smeg!

    With regard to my experience I have been here for over 20 years and it still feels like I am on holiday. Never a dull moment so to speak!

    Horses for courses mate but you must be part of the minute minority who feels this way about Thailand.

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    I always returned home once every two years for a month or so and was always happy to get back to Thailand afterwards.

    Perfect world I would do May-September in Uk and the rest in Thailand. Maybe not perfect, but it would be OK.

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    If I was rich it would be June, July and August in the UK and Europe for me, sadly I'm not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    Thailand is a fun, bizarre place to spend a few years and see a different side of life, but as a long-term home, no thanks.
    You are the first person who I have heard about that has left LOS on his own accord and not kicking a screaming Smeg!

    With regard to my experience I have been here for over 20 years and it still feels like I am on holiday. Never a dull moment so to speak!

    Horses for courses mate but you must be part of the minute minority who feels this way about Thailand.
    Are you kidding? I'd say that the vast majority of expats leave within a few years, and you are part of a minority who become lifers.

    Furthermore, I'd say that less than 0.1% of people born in the developed world leave it to emigrate to the developing world. It really is a very unusual thing to do. Brits leaving the UK for Spain or Australia etc is much more common, as is asians moving to the US, Europe, Australia etc. My local highstreet is awash with Chinese, Thais, and dozens of other nationalities, all having a good time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    Thailand is a fun, bizarre place to spend a few years and see a different side of life, but as a long-term home, no thanks.
    There you have it, who wants to spend the rest of their life in a circus of scamers

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    I wonder if you'll get the four year itch in the UK too smeggy?
    Anyhow, when you get that stale feeling a change is a much needed breath of fresh air- thats pretty much the way I've lived my life.
    I'm in my fourth year here, not stale- but i've moved from near pattaya to up issan, so thats quite a change.
    If and when i get stale here, I'll move again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    Are you kidding? I'd say that the vast majority of expats leave within a few years, and you are part of a minority who become lifers.
    No I am not Smeg but then again I am basing my claim on my experiences only.

    In fact I have had to recently say goodbye to a number of close friends (including a few TD members) who were absolutely gutted and to have to go back to their country of birth.

    Then again you only take out of something what you are willing to put in so I guess you are correct when you have suggested I am in the minority group.

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    Being new to Thailand I am not qualified to really comment as I will only be coming up to my first year at the end of this month.

    But each of us came here for a reason, with time that reason may very well not be valid or sufficient to warrant remaining here.

    The shallowness of some Thais, the political unrest, the racist attitudes, the every changing visa landscape, the heat and just general homesickness and personal finances will always be a contributing factor.

    The later is my only limiting factor at the moment, the financial limitations.

    But I still look back at my recent past life in Australia, divorced, in my early 40's in the Banking industry and unemployable, with no social interaction outside my 1 bedroom apartment. Socially inept I was not but that market was quickly diminishing as was my rugged good looks.

    My option at the time, learn a new skill, like drive a public bus or take the Social Security payments to a life of complete nothingness.

    Thailand represented a more spontaneous, alternative lifestyle.

    Our own happiness is our own responsibility... Having spent 12 months in Bangkok, I plan to spend the next in Chang Mai, followed by Hua Hin and so on.

    Variety is the Spice of Life whether it be here, there or going back home.

    Smeg, enjoy live to the fullest wherever you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    To throw away the luck of being born in the developed world, my green and pleasant land, in exchange for a poor, hot, developing country, a sleaze and peasant land, and spend my life on visas and permits at the whim of some pig-ignorant immigration official, isn't for me.
    However, to grasp the luck of being born in the developed world, my lords and peasants land, and still spend my life on visas and permits, as opposed to rules and cctv, and pig ignorant southern suited winkers, speaks volumes for me.

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    Bet you wish you had been born in the UK where southerners are looked up to and respected

    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke
    pig ignorant southern suited winkers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg View Post
    Are you kidding? I'd say that the vast majority of expats leave within a few years, and you are part of a minority who become lifers.

    Furthermore, I'd say that less than 0.1% of people born in the developed world leave it to emigrate to the developing world. It really is a very unusual thing to do. Brits leaving the UK for Spain or Australia etc is much more common, as is asians moving to the US, Europe, Australia etc. My local highstreet is awash with Chinese, Thais, and dozens of other nationalities, all having a good time.
    Well, I was born in Australia. It WAS a great place to live. It is no longer a great place to live...work long hours - no overtime, put up with liars & cheats who will use any leverage point to climb over you to the next salary bracket.

    I came here because I didn't want a complicated life of money...& I got it. What I didn't expect was the inane culture but I can easily cope with that. "Culture" doesn't ask for a password or an income, it is something I can choose even though I dislike cultures intensely.
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    Oh for fucks sake! Get a life & stop trying to fuck mine up!

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    Smeggers, the key ingredient for loving and living long time in Thailand is that you must work your brain -- be it job, cerebral studies (like TD, for example...), home stuff, whatever. I missed theatre, galleries, creative stuff the most, altho I had many Thai artist friends who were inspiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Bet you wish you had been born in the UK where southerners are looked up to and detested
    I was

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    I left possibly the most beautiful place to live on this earth (Australia) and was driven out by ridiculous laws, unfair tax systems and a bureaucratic system that penalized anyone who had the hide to try to get out of the fabricated society rut.

    I also selected Thailand and because it was a developing country hoping I could contribute and develop along with it.

    Thailand still offers great opportunity to those that are willing to take a risk and live with the restrictions that have been placed upon us.

    I certainly have not had my fill of the place and everyday offers new opportunities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I left possibly the most beautiful place to live on this earth (Australia) and was driven out by ridiculous laws, unfair tax systems and a bureaucratic system that penalized anyone who had the hide to try to get out of the fabricated society rut.

    I also selected Thailand and because it was a developing country hoping I could contribute and develop along with it.

    Thailand still offers great opportunity to those that are willing to take a risk and live with the restrictions that have been placed upon us.

    I certainly have not had my fill of the place and everyday offers new opportunities.
    I left Amstralia/Ausmerica for very similar reasons to yourself.

    I didn't instantly decide to come here (Thailand). I went to NZ first & met a Thai who simply suggested, "Try Thailand." I did this & here I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke
    However, to grasp the luck of being born in the developed world, my lords and peasants land, and still spend my life on visas and permits, as opposed to rules and cctv, and pig ignorant southern suited winkers, speaks volumes for me.
    Dead right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    If I was rich it would be June, July and August in the UK and Europe for me, sadly I'm not.
    Same although I would probably stay in Italy for that period.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    Furthermore, I'd say that less than 0.1% of people born in the developed world
    Less I'd say. Only 0.8% of total British tourists visit Thailand and not many of them stay.

    Thailand offers little of substance after you get over the bar culture and cheap shags.

    In my experience the cheap and available prostitutes are the main factor in many expats coming to and deciding to remain here, not to mention their own inability to get laid at home and in a normal environment.

    Thailand is home to many more dysfunctional expatriates than anywhere else in the World and there's obvious reasons for that.
    Mortals you defy the Gods, I sentence you to travel among unknown stars, until you find the Kingdom of Hades, your bodies will stay as lifeless as stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Bet you wish you had been born in the UK where southerners are looked up to and respected

    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke
    pig ignorant southern suited winkers,

    Like proverbial Dog Turd you mean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    I missed theatre, galleries, creative stuff the most,
    Yes, must be tough for you living in Canada

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    Aint you northerners got better things to do rather than complaining about southerners being better than you? Go and dig up some coal or something

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    ^^ It is. When I'm in cities, I'm used to living in London, NYC and Tokyo. But, our east side ghetto is pretty entertaining.

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