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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Wetherspoons the only UK brewery makin money
    Soon no pubs left except wetherspoons and a few high end places.
    Not in small towns and villages. My local village pub was always packed.

    Welcome to the socialist republic of GB, a land wasted by successive government interference.
    Government interference is not the cause of huge chains taking over the food and drink industry. That is modern capitalism at work. If anything, government intervention was actually needed to stop it taking place, if it was deemed as a bad thing that is.

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    One good thing is that there are over 3000 Micro Breweries in the UK

    Just hope there are enough freehouse/guest beer pubs around to support them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Greene King is an excellent brewery, I like their Abbot Ale a lot

    drinking good beer in Wetherspoons is a bit like eating home made ice cream in the toilet
    In my opinion, all Greene King beers are distinctly average, mass produced beers with little character.

    Abbot Ale is the only one which is moderately ok, but I would never pick one over a Wychcraft, Fullers, Timmy Taylors, Black Sheep etc.. level of beer

    damn, I have been doing it all wrong again
    I have reported your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Wetherspoons the only UK brewery makin money because of the burger n chips plus a pint for silly money.
    Forces other pubs to close cos they cannot compete.
    Soon no pubs left except wetherspoons and a few high end places.
    Welcome to the socialist republic of GB, a land wasted by successive government interference.
    No choice and no freedoms worth havin.
    Wetherspoons get all the late dated beer that is just at its sell by time. They get and sell it cheap.You cant tell as long as you are eating your chips but can taste a bit off on its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crippen
    Wetherspoons get all the late dated beer that is just at its sell by time. They get and sell it cheap.
    proof and link please

    otherwise people will think you are just repeating urban myths

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Greene King is an excellent brewery, I like their Abbot Ale a lot

    drinking good beer in Wetherspoons is a bit like eating home made ice cream in the toilet
    Quote Originally Posted by madjbs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Greene King is an excellent brewery, I like their Abbot Ale a lot

    drinking good beer in Wetherspoons is a bit like eating home made ice cream in the toilet
    In my opinion, all Greene King beers are distinctly average, mass produced beers with little character.

    Abbot Ale is the only one which is moderately ok, but I would never pick one over a Wychcraft, Fullers, Timmy Taylors, Black Sheep etc.. level of beer

    There's nothing wrong with any of the above cask ales, depends wether they suit your palette and nose.

    Abbot ale is a very good ale IMO

    The biggest problem is poor cellar management and bar keeping in the UK. The lager brewery ownd pubs have poor choice and at a guess poorer standarts than Free houses. In my time I tend to see the beer of poorer quality in brewery owned pubs. Unless of course its owned by the microbrewery which brews the stuff next door or nearby. Such as the excellent pub next to the Hereford Pale Ale brewery).

    just a slightly dirty glass can affect the finished product, dirty lines, food kept in the cellar; the list is endless. I would imagine before getting there the brewer took a lot of work to get the ale right. Shame it only takes a bit of poor barwork to ruin the finished product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
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    what can UK export to pay of its debt?
    Our superior intellect.
    You mean there is no hope? Maybe you will have to join the euro soon then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crippen
    Wetherspoons get all the late dated beer that is just at its sell by time. They get and sell it cheap.
    proof and link please

    otherwise people will think you are just repeating urban myths
    Been in the cellar when beer delivered. Used to work across the road from one in another bar. The ale is still ok,but if it was sold in a slow selling place it would be way past its sell by date by the time the last pint was sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Brown View Post

    There's nothing wrong with any of the above cask ales, depends wether they suit your palette and nose.
    You're right, there is nothing "wrong" with the mass produced beer, but, you can't beat a top quality beer from a local brewery or microbrewery. You know that someone has crafted a great beer, rather than a computerised machine in some factory on an industrial estate in Surry.

    There are so many microbreweries in the UK now, it's always a shame when pubs don't support them and don't offer something local and unique.

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    The pound is up to 54.63 to the baht. Thats up by about 10% from its lows.
    I just heard that the economic crisis has halved the number of millionaires in the uk to 242,000 from 489,000.

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    ^There will be about 60 miliion millionaires in the UK in a couple of years...

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    ^ They sky will have fallen in and killed everybody before then, wont it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crippen View Post
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    Wetherspoons get all the late dated beer that is just at its sell by time. They get and sell it cheap.
    proof and link please

    otherwise people will think you are just repeating urban myths
    Been in the cellar when beer delivered. Used to work across the road from one in another bar. The ale is still ok,but if it was sold in a slow selling place it would be way past its sell by date by the time the last pint was sold.
    Sorry, but you're talking crap.

    The sell by date is so short on beer that you can go months past it with no detrimental effect on the quality of the beer.

    Once the beer is tapped, it has to be sold within a few days. THAT is the important bit with regard to quality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fabian
    Maybe you will have to join the euro soon then.
    I'm still trying to work out why the UK doesn't already use the Euro.

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    For what it's worth, I worked as a cellarman for Wetherspoons for two years & they do buy their ale & lager just a few days before the sell-by date. Usually on a Thursday, with a view to shifting it Friday & Saturday night.

    That's their entire business model.

    I used to have loads of out of date beer on my hands come Sunday morning.

    I'd simply swap the date labels around if we had any kind of inspection.

    I remember once we had CAMRA doing a review of the pub (it was the largest in Europe at the time) & he wanted to taste the Adnams, but we didn't have any, so I wired up some Theakstons to a finished Speckled Hen pump & served it.

    I'll never forget that bearded fool supping it & declaring 'that's good Adnams that is!'



    The sell by date is so short on beer that you can go months past it with no detrimental effect on the quality of the beer
    It's illegal to sell it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nietzsche
    soI wired up some Theakstons to a finished Speckled Hen pump & served it. I'll never forget that beareded fool supping it & declaring 'that's good Adnams that is!'

    Nice one!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin View Post
    ^ They sky will have fallen in and killed everybody before then, wont it?
    It depends on whether they bundle the notes prior to the helecopter drop or let them 'flutter' down. Serious injury and death will indeed by caused by the former approach.

    The good news is that there is absolutely no point dropping coins. They could really hurt.

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