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    Wonder what the poor people are doing ?

    KNX Installation in East Coast Villa, Phuket, Thailand
    Ben Hobbs
    Ben Hobbs is Managing Director of H3 Digital. Based in Phuket, Thailand, H3 Digital specialises in lighting control, home automation, multiroom audio and home cinema.
    (4/1/2013)

    Phuket is a tropical island in Thailand visited by more than five million holidaymakers each year. After nearly a decade of visiting, UK businessman Dennis Bacon found an elevated parcel of land for sale on the East coast that featured a stunning 240-degree view of Phang Nga bay. He purchased the land and started to plan building his dream holiday home.


    The 1200sqm villa is built on a hill directly overlooking Phang-Nga bay.

    The Brief

    Dennis approached us in 2009 before breaking ground on the project. Having been involved in building luxury homes in the UK he understood that for a house of this stature lighting control would be essential. The brief was to keep things simple, easy to use and maintain. Dennis had spent time in holiday villas here and seen walls with banks of conventional light switches which he was keen to avoid.

    Dennis liked the idea of a lighting system that didn't tie him in to a single company or product line. He wanted a keypad in each area and the flexibility for these to control all of the lights directly. Keypads in common areas and the entrance would also need to choose mood lighting scenes.


    At the entrance a Gira KNX keypad gives control over the living and dining rooms.

    Planning and Design

    Our recommendation was a KNX system featuring 25 Gira keypads with a mixture of ABB and Gira control, dimming and switching equipment. The house features 10 dimming circuits and 40 switched circuits with conventional lighting to the storage and maids' rooms.

    Thailand is still a developing country, so planning any complex project can be a time-consuming and frustrating endeavour. In addition to the language barrier (Thai is a remarkably difficult language), things are not always done in an organised manner here. It is important therefore, to keep on top of things at the early stages.

    The conduit work for the project was to be completed by the main electrical contractor. Acting as the low-voltage contractor/systems integrator, we had to ensure that our plans were integrated tightly with theirs from as early as possible.

    Our in-house team produced conceptual drawings and AutoCAD plans for the client and key stakeholders such as the project manager, construction team and electrical contractor.

    Sometimes it was an uphill struggle to ensure that we always had the most current set of plans. Many times AutoCAD files from stakeholders would arrive oddly formatted and needing considerable effort to open, due to them using old versions of AutoCAD.


    One KNX keypad to control the Master Suite helps to keep things simple.

    Installation


    The house measures some 1200 square metres of floor space in total. The install in its entirety took 18 months, from being awarded the contract through to the client turning the key on the last minute addition in December 2011.

    We spent a lot of time with the electrical contractor ensuring that the lighting circuits were wired correctly before starting to install the KNX hardware. There were a number of potentially hazardous errors that we corrected, including Neutral and Live wires being crossed!

    When the house was secure and the lighting circuits fully tested, the KNX rack, which had been built in our office and transported to site, was installed, the keypads were plugged into the bus couplers and the lighting system was up and running within the week.


    Overlooking the pool, this KNX keypad controls lights in the kitchen, hall, living and dining room.

    Challenges

    Whilst running cables, we hit upon a couple of small issues. At points where the electrical contractor had used smaller conduit than we specified, it was a tight fit, but we caught the problem fairly early. Some of the conduit runs were also much longer than was necessary and than was indicated on the plans - it would cost us money, but we decided to take the loss on the additional cable required rather than create a problem with the electrical contractor at this critical stage.

    One issue that did crop up: the metal halide lamps installed in the double-height lounge didn't dim properly with the KNX system. This was down to their long warm-up period. We recommended they simply be replaced with halogen lamps since there was no discernable benefit from the metal halides.

    Space below the house had been earmarked for use as a future entertainment area. However, on another project of ours taking place elsewhere, a dramatic, last-minute colour change by the interior designer meant that we effectively had a spare set of custom-built theatre seats in the 'wrong' colour. A deal was made with Dennis to pass the seats on at cost price and he commissioned the home cinema in October 2011 which we completed just in time for Christmas.


    The home cinema features a 92" screen and seating for six.

    Experience from the Project

    Outside of our scope of work, at some points during the install we had to bring to the attention of various contractors, discrepancies between the CAD plans and what was actually being built. At first this didn't make us many friends on site, but towards the end of the project our help was welcomed in many areas.

    Whilst we generally deal with low-voltage wiring, our engineers are qualified electricians, and we found that this was incredibly important on this project, making it easier to spot potential issues with the lighting circuits well in advance.

    The AutoCAD problems on this project were a fairly steep learning curve. Although we've been using AutoCAD for years, and it is something that we'd breeze right over now, at the time it was infuriating. We will probably never encounter the same problem again, so it was a reminder that these unforeseen situations must be built into our estimated costing and time schedules.


    A small area towards the rear of the cinema is reserved as a bar.

    Conclusion

    Dennis is delighted with the lighting control system and feels that he made the right decision choosing the KNX system. Having developed a number of executive residential properties for resale, Dennis was acutely aware of the considerable amount of planning and foundation work it takes to install such a system and is looking forward to long years of easy control over his home.

    In terms of the home cinema, this has turned out to be a highlight of his trips to Phuket. He now has the luxury of being away from his busy work schedule and can sit back, relax and enjoy himself.

    Equipment list

    KNX Lighting Control:
    ABB equipment rack
    25 x Gira push button sensor keypads.
    Gira bus couplers.
    10 x Gira single switch (conventional light switch).
    5 x two-gang Gira dimming actuators.
    5 x eight-gang Gira switching actuators.
    ABB Power supply 640mA.
    ABB USB Interface Coupler.

    Home Cinema:

    Onkyo AV receiver.
    Epson 1080p projector.
    Vertex 92" projector screen.
    Custom leather recliners (burgundy colour).
    Logitech Harmony remote.
    Nuvo 6.5" in-wall and in-ceiling speakers.
    Klipsch 12" subwoofer.

    Multiroom Audio:

    Sonos system.
    Nuvo in-ceiling speakers.
    Nuvo outdoor speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    He purchased the land
    Here we go again

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    Wait till the humidity and salt get to work on those keypads.

    He'll be rushing down to tescos for some 50 baht regular switches.

    Hard to take those overdesigned overpriced over the top showhomes seriously, likewise the people who tend to live in them.

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    'Wonder what the poor people are doing ?'

    Being industrious? Working hard to try to move up the property chain?

    Or....

    Becoming explosive with jealousy, posting enviously about someone else's hard labour, hoping in vain that someone will give them the same asset - but without having to work for it?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    He purchased the land
    Here we go again
    maybe the million dollar rule.

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    Can't see any pictures, just me or...?


    Can see them now.

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    'Wonder what the poor people are doing ?'
    Hopefully not the wiring

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    He will be a very very hansum man for one lucky lady

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    Selling fancy light switches by the read of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog View Post
    'Wonder what the poor people are doing ?'

    Being industrious? Working hard to try to move up the property chain?

    Or....

    Becoming explosive with jealousy, posting enviously about someone else's hard labour, hoping in vain that someone will give them the same asset - but without having to work for it?




    Or, living way beyond your manageable means.
    It's all about image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Or, living way beyond your manageable means.
    True that.
    I'm finding it difficult these days to keep tabs how much pies and mushy peas i've shovelled down my gob.
    Back in the day, the shoveller used to shovel and the accountant used to count.

    These days of course, one is just left bewildered by the crassness of it all, which leaves a huge opening for the hole diggers, and a new canvass for the structure erectors, and ever more shit to shove into the well lit money pit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke
    These days of course, one is just left bewildered by the crassness of it all, which leaves a huge opening for the hole diggers, and a new canvass for the structure erectors, and ever more shit to shove into the well lit money pit.
    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robtherich
    Well said.
    Have you been banned yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke
    Have you been banned yet?
    Apparently not. Give it time.

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    I don't understand someone with that much money would make a cinema room with seats..

    Who wants to sit upright watching a movie? It's much more comfortable to lie on a sofa or in bed

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    ^ yep, my thoughts too

    what kind of retards make a home theater room with real theater seats ?

    I suspect it is for the showoff factor, nothing else, bad taste too, probably a Brit or American

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    If one has money to burn I suppose you can do this sort of shit and not worry.

    I'd be living large as well if I had the Dosh to burn.

    I'm doing OK but not in the super rich league.

    Anyway, good luck to him I reckon.

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    Only thing about the place that doesn't seem to be in bad taste is the infinity-edge pool but that looks a bit small...

    Maybe it's a lap pool.

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    Those look like the seats you get in the Bangkok Airways Blue Ribbon Theater in the Paragon- they are motorized and recline way back and are extremely comfortable- I'd love to have a couple of them in my house for sitting and watching a movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke View Post
    True that.
    I'm finding it difficult these days to keep tabs how much pies and mushy peas i've shovelled down my gob.
    Back in the day, the shoveller used to shovel and the accountant used to count.

    These days of course, one is just left bewildered by the crassness of it all, which leaves a huge opening for the hole diggers, and a new canvass for the structure erectors, and ever more shit to shove into the well lit money pit.
    You're not sober are you?

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    I am now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    what kind of retards make a home theater room with real theater seats
    classic

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    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke View Post
    I am now.
    That's the saddest thing I heard all day. Even worse than the mate whose dog was shot.

    Broke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog
    Becoming explosive with jealousy, posting enviously about someone else's hard labour, hoping in vain that someone will give them the same asset - but without having to work for it?
    I am doing this, yes, def this.

    sticks in a vase? wtf is that about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyFree View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by withnallstoke View Post
    I am now.
    That's the saddest thing I heard all day. Even worse than the mate whose dog was shot.

    Broke?
    Drying out, more than likely.

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