Please jeffects, teach us history!

**baldrick** · 18-03-2009, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffects

We kicked their ass

is this a WWF term or a donkey abuse technique ?

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:20 PM

Dan, you have no clue about the "hague" (whatever that is, we never ascribed to it) or Geneva convention. Which we have never violated, and if some soldier did they were summarily punished. Terrorists violate the Geneva convention every day. If of course you knew what it said.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:23 PM

shut up baldrick, if that's the level of your intellect go back to the porn sites.

Dan · 18-03-2009, 01:24 PM

Fuking' hell. Another America who doesn't know his own nation's history.

Kuwait was pumping far more oil than it was permitted under OPEC quotas, thus depressing the price of oil. When the Iraqis complained, the Kuwaitis told them to fuck off, but used worse language and refused every attempt by Iraq to solve the problem. The Iraqis were in a bad situation from the Iraq-Iran war and couldn't afford to lose this money so wanted to force Kuwait's hand. There is the also the issue of Kuwait pumping from Iraqi wells. A week before they invaded, the State Department told Iraq that the US had no position on Arab-Arab conflicts. They didn't care, so they said; yet a week after the invasion, 40,000 US troops were on the border. This wasn't an accident. The US had been planning for this invasion and were able to provoke the Iraqis into invading Kuwait and then rebuffed every attempt at negotiating a peaceful withdrawal. It was a far of aggression by the US. And when you look at the statistics relating to the conflict, it's hard to think it was a war against the Iraqi people. 50,000 Iraqi civilians died in the First Gulf War (though under a regime like Saddam's, it's hard to call much of the army itself anything other than civilian). Within days of the start of the bombing campaign, there was NO electricity in Iraq. Four of the seven major pumping stations were destroyed. Twenty eight hospitals and fifty two health centres were bombed. Thirty eight schools were totally destroyed. All major cement production facilities were bombed. The list goes on and on. And all this is before the Americans and British inflicted the mediaeval horror of sanctions on the country, and then attacked it again. Millions dead. Millions. And, of course, Saddam was a bastard but he was your bastard, until he failed to be of use.

Pride in your country is not necessarily a bad thing, but pride in a murderous, genocidal regime of thugs and fascists is.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:25 PM

Sorry marmite, it says "not too drunk to fuck" next to your name. Real mature.

**filch** · 18-03-2009, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffects

Good for you filch. You are an embarrasment to Churchill and Thatcher. But I'm sure Chamberlin would be very proud of you. If you're ashamed of your country, that's your problem.

I never said I was ashamed you numbfuck, I said I was intelligent enough to see the atrocities that the British have done over the years and acknowledge them. I said I wasn't proud.

Pride and ashamed are two different words with two different meanings. Dictionary.com might help you out there.

Originally Posted by Jeffects

By the way, are you using microsoft. Who created that asshole?

I believe it was Steve Wozniak, the co-founder of Apple Computers, who is of Polish descent. His idea of a modern OS and how it works via a GUI etc... were then stolen by Mr Gates, founder of Microsoft.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:27 PM

"provoke the Iraqis into invading Kuwait "

Dan did you actually say this. You are beyond stupid. Kill yourself because you are of no value to humanity and just wasting our oxygen.

**Marmite the Dog** · 18-03-2009, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffects

Sorry marmite, it says "not too drunk to fuck" next to your name. Real mature.

It says Angthong next to yours. I suppose that's really mature...

**Marmite the Dog** · 18-03-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffects

Kill yourself because you are of no value to humanity and just wasting our oxygen.

Good old American values.

I don't agree, therefore you should be dead.

Awesome, err, 'Dude'.

**dirtydog** · 18-03-2009, 01:30 PM

I feel sorry for any normal Americans reading your rubbish jeefects, I bet they are cringing with each embarrassing post you make.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:30 PM

yeah idiot, Wozniak and Jobs got ripped off by Gates. Too bad they came out at the same time and microsoft was better. No lawsuit. I don't think so. Welcome to filch fantasyland.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:34 PM

Dog, Americans love this. But you wouldn't know because you are unfortunately whatever you are and don't get it.

**pickel** · 18-03-2009, 01:34 PM

Google April Glaspie (former US ambassador to Iraq), Jeffects, and you might find she said this to Saddam:

But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late 60's. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction. We hope you can solve this problem using any suitable methods via Klibi or via President Mubarak. All that we hope is that these issues are solved quickly.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:35 PM

I have no idea what "anthong" is Whatever this site puts up is hardly my concern. I wrote Los Angeles.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:37 PM

Pickel, late sixties? thats relevent. Ha Ha. During the Shah and before Saddam.

Dan · 18-03-2009, 01:37 PM

Tell us again how great the American educational system is. You're a shining example of it, aren't you.

And whilst you're at it, have a look at what Ramsey Clark (former Attorney General of the US so clearly a man utterly ignorant of international law) says about US war crimes in the First Gulf War.

Apology accepted.

**Butterfly** · 18-03-2009, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffects

I'm a foul mood. Ha Ha.

Thanks we knew that already,

Originally Posted by Jeffects

I would respect that even if I didn't agree.

I highly doubt it, you have proved not to take any criticism lightly

Originally Posted by Jeffects

Okay Filch, you're Butterfly status.

speaks volume about your attitude when exposed to facts, you coward

**Bobcock** · 18-03-2009, 01:39 PM

Babcock, i respect you're opinion because it is based on fact and not just insulting nonsense.

No you don't, you just happen to agree with what I said this time.

As soon as I say something that you don't like you will once again be reduced to a tirade of childish insults.

Don't think I said what I said to curry favour with a redneck like you, I just don't agree with baiting you with some untruths. Kinda like telling my kids to keep away from a rabid dog.

**pickel** · 18-03-2009, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffects

Pickel, late sixties? thats relevent. Ha Ha. During the Shah and before Saddam.

That quote is from a week before Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

Here is the whole transcript.

US Ambassador April Glaspie's Interview with Pres. Saddam Hussein, July 25 1990

**filch** · 18-03-2009, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffects

No lawsuit. I don't think so.

The first seven years after the announcement of windows, however, was not exactly smooth sailing for Bill Gates and Microsoft. AOver those seven years, the windows story had been one of tepid reviews, backhanding compliments, empty hype, sluggish sales.[at](Manes, 7) If these problems were not enough, in the same period, Apple computer, headed by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, had sued Microsoft accusing the company of stealing their Macintosh ideas for the Windows application.

Originally Posted by Jeffects

Welcome to filch fantasyland.

My 'fantasyland' is clear, vivid and uncorrupted by seppo, nor British propaganda.

Sadly, your seppo head is clearly incapable of making educated and independant thoughts. Or so it would appear.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:45 PM

Babcock I was only referring to what you said in that quote. Don't need your support and don't want it. Quite honestly I have read enough of your posts to formulate an opinion. Better off without you. So Dan are you using microsoft or not? simple question. Ramsey Clark is an idiot. I don't remember apologizing. Someones opinion who was there during the 60's has little value. But if that's all you got....Okay.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:48 PM

So filch, are you using microsoft or mac< Did they win the so-called lawsuit. Hmmmm, I can answer that for you. "No" if there even was a lawsuit.

**filch** · 18-03-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffects

So filch, are you using microsoft or mac< Did they win the so-called lawsuit. Hmmmm, I can answer that for you. "No" if there even was a lawsuit.

Oh so there was a lawsuit? You acknowledge that now. So you were wrong earlier, are you man enough to admit it?

I am working in an office, I have to use Microsoft, though it isn't my choice of OS, nor is Leopard, although I will say the latter I would choose over Windows.

**Jeffects** · 18-03-2009, 01:53 PM

Okay girls, Bedtime in beautiful California. It's been fun. I lookforward to more later. But at least read something beyond a comic book. Maybe even a newspaper. You guys got thrashed and I hope you're not too stupid to realize it. Study up a bit before your next lesson.

**Butterfly** · 18-03-2009, 01:54 PM

Yes it is public knowledge that Saddam was tricked by the Bush administration in the first Gulf War,

I wonder how many Americans know the truth, not many apparently

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