"Modern Day Slavery" in Thailand

**Mid** · 04-03-2009, 07:05 PM

more fool you

**phuketbound** · 04-03-2009, 07:07 PM

^Are you sure you aren't autistic..cause you are stuttering...FOOL!

**Lily** · 04-03-2009, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Mid

wot's to debate it's a fallacy

What is a fallacy?

That men flock to Thailand to get cheap sex often with underaged girls or boys, or that they are forced into it?

Does the fact that Thai men do most of it (after all, the numbers have to be with them) make it ok for western men to get in on it?

**Mid** · 04-03-2009, 07:11 PM

read the thread lily

**chassamui** · 04-03-2009, 07:13 PM

In my limited experience of prostitution in Thailand, most of the women involved seem to get at least some enjoyment out of it. Even if that only means satisfying a cultural need to support their families. The poor will use any means to try and extricate themselves from poverty. The western definition of poverty probably does not apply here, because for many poor Thai families, subsistence farming and living off the land is enough. If you have an ancient culture of prostitution in a poor, (by our standards) country, it is unlikely to have developed because of foreign tourism in the dark ages.
It already existed, so contemporary prostitution in Thailand helps to support, but does not underpin, the tourism industry. It gives Thailand a higher profile in the west, so to observers such as PB, it may seem exploitative, but i'm sure the Thai people, both male and female, just see that as an opportunity to exploit the farang.
I do not support or condone anything to do with child prostitution.

**Fabian** · 04-03-2009, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Lily

Originally Posted by Mid

wot's to debate it's a fallacy

What is a fallacy?

That men flock to Thailand to get cheap sex often with underaged girls or boys, or that they are forced into it?

Does the fact that Thai men do most of it (after all, the numbers have to be with them) make it ok for western men to get in on it?

The vast majority of men flying to Thailand for sex are not looking for underage girls or boys and the women servicing them are not forced to.

I see nothing wrong with prostitution if it happens amongst consenting adults. Not that I participate of course.

**phuketbound** · 04-03-2009, 07:41 PM

And giving it a higher profile because of the sex industry, is a good thing?

How do you know for sure that the Thai people don't see it as exploitative?
I've worked with a few ex-prostitutes in a shelter, that really did feel exploited, and abused. There is two sides to every coin. Those that want to get out, but don't really have a choice, or much opportunity. If the government would legalize it, perhaps they could get more support for the ones that want to do it? Anyway, everyone has their own view. I believe there are many that get a lot out of it, such as money, and the chance to be seen on a 'rich falang arm.' Whatever..I'm not going there to save anyone. Just interested in your opinions of expats living the

Originally Posted by chassamui

t gives Thailand a higher profile in the west, so to observers such as PB, it may seem exploitative, but i'm sure the Thai people, both male and female, just see that as an opportunity to exploit the farang.

**good2bhappy** · 04-03-2009, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

in Minburi there are hundreds upon thousands of brothels.

Where please other than opposite the hospital?

**jandajoy** · 04-03-2009, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by phuketbound

I've worked with a few that really did feel exploited, and abused.

Who, where and under what circumstances?

**Fabian** · 04-03-2009, 07:51 PM

Phuketbound, they may feel exploited but the same applies to most of the folks on Ajarnforum.

**jandajoy** · 04-03-2009, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Lily

What is a fallacy?

It's a sex thing Lilo you've probably forgotten.

**jandajoy** · 04-03-2009, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by phuketbound

Are you sure you aren't autistic..cause you are stuttering...FOOL!

Since when did stuttering have anything to do with autism? You're going to be a teacher ?

**phuketbound** · 04-03-2009, 08:00 PM

^Right, well he has a speech impediment. "_"
A serious one at that. Can't even dispute the article, but throws dumb insults.

**phuketbound** · 04-03-2009, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Fabian

Phuketbound, they may feel exploited but the same applies to most of the folks on Ajarnforum.

**jandajoy** · 04-03-2009, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by phuketbound

Right, well he has a speech impediment. "_" A serious one at that.

No insult whatsoever. Simply pointed out the fact that you obviously know nothing whatsoever about autism, or speech impediments.

I'm a bit concerned that you're going to be teaching. Teaching children, where? What age range?

Are you qualified ?

**Sir Burr** · 04-03-2009, 08:10 PM

If prostitution is to end in Thailand, the same things are going to have to happen as they did in Western countries. Education.
Victorian London was awash in prostitutes. Since free education for the masses, plus opportunities in the work-place to use that education, prostitution is far, far less prevalent.

Unfortunately, this is not going to happen in Thailand. The ruling class here in Thailand will keep the general population ignorant. An unwanted by-product of education is political awareness and intolerance to corruption and unfairness.

Thailand is still a feudal society and the ruling class want to keep it that way.

**FlyFree** · 04-03-2009, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by phuketbound

Being a woman, and thinking that the body is sacred

'..... and any form of prostitution is not right.'

Hmmm, you sure you wanna be in Thailand? Hope you don't think the locals are gonna change their country for you.

Nothing sacred on this planet I'm afraid. Maybe it's just me, not being able to tune in to the special invisible friends.

**phuketbound** · 04-03-2009, 08:16 PM

^Haha, I get your point. I can still tune into my invisible friends, when I so choose though.

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

If prostitution is to end in Thailand, the same things are going to have to happen as they did in Western countries. Education.
Victorian London was awash in prostitutes. Since free education for the masses, plus opportunities in the work-place to use that education, prostitution is far, far less prevalent.

Unfortunately, this is not going to happen in Thailand. The ruling class here in Thailand will keep the general population ignorant. An unwanted by-product of education is political awareness and intolerance to corruption and unfairness.

Thailand is still a feudal society and the ruling class want to keep it that way.

Great post, Sir Burr. Are you in Phuket by chance?

**Sir Burr** · 04-03-2009, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by phuketbound

Great post, Sir Burr. Are you in Phuket by chance?

Not at the moment, but, I do live there.
Unfortunately, I have to work offshore to earn a crust.

**FlyFree** · 04-03-2009, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by phuketbound

^Haha, I get your point. I can still tune into my invisible friends, when I so choose though.

You have my sympathy.

**blackgang** · 04-03-2009, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by phuketbound

I did start a huge debate about whether prostitution should be legalized over a Ajarn forum.

Well why didn't you stay over there then,
And what goes on in Thailand is none of your business anyway, you don't even live here, and unless the ho's are getting your share of the willy what are you worried about, no body gonna bother you if you are a western female, you are the reason we are here.

God Damn, she sure sounds a lot like Lily don't she,, do you think........naw

**britmaveric** · 04-03-2009, 09:08 PM

Prostitution is a job nothing more nothing less - that's why it's legal in most countries around the world or looked the other way. If you want to sell a shag and you are of legal age, and not forced into it then go right ahead. Just make sure you practice safe standards and health check-ups - after all your body is your business so you need to protect it.

99.9% not forced to, and do so willingly because they know they can make more dosh and have sanuk mak mak mak then could doing some menial job that pays 6K a month. (make that in a few days if they are any good) They end up sending dosh back to family - building new home or getting some poor sap to pay for it. Then you have the middle class or hi-so uni lot - do it for fun and plain materialism.

**blackgang** · 04-03-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by phuketbound

Just interested in your opinions of expats living the

No you don't, you want someone to agree with you and we won't do that, so fuck you and your older sister, Lily.

**Sir Burr** · 04-03-2009, 09:29 PM

^
Has someone just given you a wedgie?

**phuketbound** · 04-03-2009, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by phuketbound

Just interested in your opinions of expats living the

No you don't, you want someone to agree with you and we won't do that, so fuck you and your older sister, Lily.

Nah, don't care if you agree with me or not.. Just give me a good argument that I can wrap my head around. Fuck you and train you rode in on.

Good post, BritMaveric..and nice rack! I can do better.

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