Read the speech Geert Wilders would have made in the UK if they'd let him!

[Luckydog]

UK Copts Association - The speech Geert Wilders would have given

This should take you there if you are interested......

[Cujo]

A speech that should be heard by all, especially those that don't want to hear it.

There might be moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam. Islam will never change, because it is build on two rocks that are forever, two fundamental beliefs that will never change, and will never go away. First, there is Quran, Allah’s personal word, uncreated, forever, with orders that need to be fulfilled regardless of place or time. And second, there is al-insal al-kamil, the perfect man, Muhammad the role model, whose deeds are to be imitated by all Muslims. And since Muhammad was a warlord and a conqueror we know what to expect.
Islam means submission, so there cannot be any mistake about it’s goal. That’s a given. The question is whether the British people, with its glorious past, is longing for that submission.

I would not qualify myself as a free man. Four and a half years ago I lost my freedom. I am under guard permanently, courtesy to those who prefer violence to debate. But for the leftist fan club of islam, that is not enough. They started a legal procedure against me. Three weeks ago the Amsterdam Court of Appeal ordered my criminal prosecution for making ‘Fitna’ and for my views on Islam. I committed what George Orwell called a ‘thought crime’.

[keda]

Quite true, and tempered.

The Brit wrist has been slit and all that matters now is whether or not they a) notice it, or b) bother to stem the flow.

[barbaro]

Important thread and topic. What will the future of the UK and Europe be like in 20, 50, or 75 years?

And with worldwide population demographics alone, Islamic numbers are growing.

The world is not evolving - it's devolving.

[filch]

^
But is it flowing, circulating or - and I'll just throw this one good measure, rotating?!

[keda]

Important thread and topic. What will the future of the UK and Europe be like in 20, 50, or 75 years?

And with worldwide population demographics alone, Islamic numbers are growing.

The world is not evolving - it's devolving.

I agree with both points, as cause and effect.

[larvidchr]

I have seen Fitna as I suspect/hope many of you have, I fail to see what is so wrong unless of cause an uncomfortable truth is classified as being wrong, the daily TV news is often far worse than anything shown in that movie but then the TV news can always be mixed with Journalists refusing to acknowledge facts and label electricity cuts humanitarian disasters if they happen in Gaza ( 29 of January 2009, 1.3 million people left without electricity for up to 8-10 days in the US have yet to produce a trembling lady from the BBC gasping humanitarian disaster every 3 Min) (3000 thousand deaths and 100.000 wounded every day in the Asia Pacific regions traffic likewise don't provoke any reaction at all ) But running an unconfirmed lie given to them by Hamas about a school being bombed was okay and running lies about Israel breaking the Geneva conventions using phosphorus was okay to, at the hight of a crisis where world opinion would play a major role, the BBC played in reality a major propaganda role on the side of a terrorist organisation and we have yet to see heads fall on that account.

This represents a massive slide downward in the quality of the reporting from the former so proud BBC.

The ultra biased way the media is handling anything remotely critical of Islam is of very serious concern they fail to live up to the criteria of being the watchdogs for the little man and defenders and protectors of free speech and truth.

And now the refusal to allow an Islam critic democratic elected member of the Duch parliament to enter the UK and speak in the House of Lords by invitation from same, while at the same time allowing extremists from the Arabic world and bloody dictators to roam the Country with impunity is a disgrace for the UK, it is a total lie down on the stomach in the face of Islamists pressure, the once so Proud Empire have this day truly fallen.

[TSR2]

Mohammad a War Lord. don,t think so !!!!

[kingwilly]

shouldnt this be in issues?

either that or MKP?

[filch]

^
Issues, agreed. I tried to lighten it up to give it the "This is the place for fun, a laugh and a joke and a bit of light hearted banter" but alas, the runner, i.e. flow or circulate gag was dismissed.

I'll get my coat!

P.S. Sorry I meant my pay off suede leather jacket!

[Cujo]

Mohammad a War Lord. don,t think so !!!!

You serious??

[kmart]

Always interests me how Muslims flock to countries like the UK, to enjoy the benefits of advances only made possible by separation of Church from State.
(Separation of the Church from the functioning of Parliament was the start of a quantum leap in Western civilization; democracy; religious freedom; education; science; medicine; arts; etc). And yet would try to impose their own primitive Sharia Law and religious backwardness on the supposed benefits of their adopted country...
Seems they just want the healthcare and handouts, without acknowledging any other part of a society that gave them that. What benefits do they bring with them..?

[keda]

Agreed, it's called biting the hand that feeds them.

[nevets]

My father was in British army 20 years and would turn over in his grave to no what is happening to Britain. He said 40 years ago that the Muslims would not stop until the whole world is bathed in Islam . And he was on the north west frontier stationed at Rawalpindi ,Victoria barracks 1936.

[keda]

My father was in British army 20 years and would turn over in his grave to no what is happening to Britain. He said 40 years ago that the Muslims would not stop until the whole world is bathed in Islam . And he was on the north west frontier stationed at Rawalpindi ,Victoria barracks 1936.

My dad was with the RN in Bombay but fortunately on shore leave the day Fort Stikine blew up...told me much the same, from also about 40 yrs ago.

Spot on they were!

[Lily]

There might be moderate Muslims, but there is no moderate Islam

That was said about Germany in the years after the war, in almost those words.

[Lily]

shouldnt this be in issues?

Or the wanking room.

[barbaro]

shouldnt this be in issues?

Or the wanking room.

Geert Wilder is an important voice.

He's not in the US, about to speak.

You'll be hearing more of him. It's important that he gets his message out.

[jandajoy]

Or the wanking room.

Why are you on this forum? Are you so terribly lonely? Just a question, no disrespect.

[Lily]

Why are you on this forum? Are you so terribly lonely? Just a question, no disrespect

Why are you? Have you more right to be than I?

I think that I have been on this forum long before you ever knew it existed.

What is your problem?

[barbaro]

^ Lily,

Why do you think this thread should be in the "wanking section?"

You're not adding anything substantive.

You're just trolling.

[jandajoy]

Why are you? Have you more right to be than I? I think that I have been on this forum long before you ever knew it existed. What is your problem?

How defensive. Simply a polite question. Intrigued, thats all.

[barbaro]

This whole thread is off-topic and f*cked up now.

I hope we can get back on track, as Wilder will be speaking in the US.

[Lily]

How defensive. Simply a polite question. Intrigued, thats all.

Why should you be intrigued by that?

Why do you think I shouldn't be? Why the lonliness dig?

Do only lonely people belong to this forum? Or do you think women shouldn't?

Why do you think this thread should be in the "wanking section?"

Because it is a circle jerk. How terrible those muslims are.........and everyone with their own stories and all agreeing with each other.

[barbaro]

How defensive. Simply a polite question. Intrigued, thats all.

Why should you be intrigued by that?

Why do you think I shouldn't be? Why the lonliness dig?

Do only lonely people belong to this forum? Or do you think women shouldn't?

Why do you think this thread should be in the "wanking section?"

Because it is a circle jerk. How terrible those muslims are.........and everyone with their own stories and all agreeing with each other.

Then you can post, specifically WHY.

And not make some one-sentence put-down that makes no sense.