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    Slave trade to UK

    OK this is a nasty thread

    I have just met a Thai girl in London, she is pregnant and has a decent guy. She is sweet and seems very nice.

    my wife did the Thai cross questioning

    where did you meet him?
    In London

    oh, what were you doing here?
    I was offered a job as a waitress, good money. They gave me another girls passport and flew me to Manchester. The Immigration turned a blind eye, they must have been paid off. I was then forced to work in London as a prostitute.

    oh god, and then?
    After about a month working, I heard them talking about me, they were going to sell me to another group, I dont know where. I decided to get away. Lucky I could speak English, and I had secretly saved some cash that some clients had given me extra. My boyfriend was a client and helped me.

    and now?
    they are still looking for me. They will pay some black guys money if they find me. They threw a bomb at my mothers house as a warning for her not to talk to the police. It would be useless anyway, as the organiser there, in Udon, is a high-up in the army. The woman who offered me the original job has a big house there too.

    what will you do?
    I don't know, I am an illegal here, without a passport, and cannot go back to Thailand as I would be killed, or taken back to work somewhere else.
    There was a girl working with me who had no food for three days as a punishment, another was beaten a lot.


    Anyway, I advised her to see an immigration lawyer, and possibly claim refugee status (she cannot return home).

    The worst thing was hearing about the corrupt immigration in Manchester, those guys must know what is happening to the girls. Bastards, how can I get them, maybe tell the BBC, no names
    I have reported your post

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    Fek me!

    Definitely get a lawyer involved. You can't trust those northern bastards, can you!?

    This could make a good thread.

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    Certainly not an isolated incident. And I am going to put my cynical hat on.

    My impression is that the girls who accept such work in the UK know or at least anticipate what sort of work they will be undertaking - the problem comes when they find that the organisers of their contract are taking rather more from their wages than they expected.

    I would like to feel that Dr A is acting to save an innocent girl from a life of shame but I would caution that he is being used as a tool to help a girl who was not so much deceived as duped.

    As I said at the start I am wearing a cynical hat, but when it comes to Thai fashions I always consult my better half.
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    ^^^ and this surprises you in wot way ???

    newspapers and media .... they've got betta stories - this one is old hat!

    not particularly nice - but happens quite alot....

    osrry to be cynical also but i dont think you'd be able to do much really!

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    And of course, we all believe this Thai girl, don't we?

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    You know only what she told you, or rather your wife.
    How do you know it's true?

    -she didn't know: as pointed out already, chances are she did have some idea of what 'work' would be involved, at the latest when a "false passport" got involved.

    -false passport: possible, but how would Man immigration know if the pic bears a resemblance? The important bit is the visa, how was it obtained, or is this what is fake?

    -she cannot go back to Thailand because "they" would find her and kill her: assumption and hearsay. Noone obtains refugee status this easily. Should everybody who maybe is wanted by a criminal gang be granted asylum in the UK? Besides, they're more likely to find her in the UK, there won't be all that many Thai women fitting the description in London?

    The best first step would be to get a lawyer for her to explore the possibilities - how to approach Thai consulate, Brit immigration and police.
    I'd stay well out of it, sounds like she got a 'decent guy' to help sort her out.

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    Terrible story, and sadly, simular stories are not uncommon..

    I wish I had of read this thread before I posted the "roger moore" thread. Feel like a right git now..

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    ^
    Why?
    Freelancers travelling on a tourist visa is a different story...

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    Even if she had agreed working as a prostitute, still no reason of locking them up, beating them not feeding them.........

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    IF the story is true, then she needs help of course. Not sure what you can do personally though.

    I also kind of agree with the cynical hat people. If she has been in the Bar trade before, she will be able to tell rather convincing lies without flinching. It goes with the job.

    That is just based on what you wrote here though. Maybe if I met her in real life I would think very differently.

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    No need for a cynical hat. Doesn't mean that she's a bargirl that others can force you into prostitution in a foreign country.

    Similar things have happened in Germany, belgium, the Netherlands and proof has shown that those girls were robbed of their passports and were forced to receive customers up to 18 hours per day.

    Now, it doesn't matter if the girl knows what she's getting into. There's a big difference between prostitution out of free will and sexual slavery.

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    A bloke that i knew in NZ, (who was the GM of a very well respected company) had a 1/4 share in a massage parlour(knock shop).They employed mainly Thais.

    His brother ran the place.I can remembering asking him the very question about slave birds,holding passports etc.I'll never forget his answer.He said that he had NEVER EVER heard of this happening first hand and every bird that he knew was 100% ok with working. He said that most of what you hear in the media was complete bullshit(well in NZ anyway) most of the birds made up stories as a face saving exercise etc.I new this bloke quite well too.

    I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, but I wonder if it happens as much as we think.

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    ^ Well he's a PIMP and for me if he is not involved in selling prostitutes he would have some credibility, but as he is, his word means nothing. Sex slavery in one form or another does exist in Australia. I have come in contact with Girls who were tempted with the prospect of a "waitress" job and then forced into working in a brothel. A freind of mine in Melbourne was involved in helping these girls out and back to Thailand. In thailand these particular girls certainly were not working girls, they were Duped.

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    Cut her balls off...

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    Why not try a tabloid?

    They'll pay for a lawyer and if she was to get 'silenced' they'd be responsible so they'll take better care of her..

    I know from some personal experience that the girls do get shafted even if they enter the game willingly. Once they are in the foriegn country they have no passport and they have a debt to pay, usually in the Baht millions to pay off before they earn a cracker.

    An ex of mine worked in Hong Kong at a karaoke place. She could earn the grand sum of 50,000K baht a month but she also serviced eleven guys in one day. Of course, in this case she went willingly but if she didn't like the work she had to pay the procurer and that would mean nasties if she couldn't find the money.

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    Cut her balls off...

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    "They gave me another girls passport" "she is pregnant".
    Makes me wonder,at what point was the passport offered,alarm bells should have rung.
    And as if shes not in enough trouble,she gets pregnant.?
    As a woman myself the last thing to do in a situation like this would be to get pregnant, sorry but as above my cynical hat is on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan
    ^ Well he's a PIMP and for me if he is not involved in selling prostitutes he would have some credibility, but as he is, his word means nothing. Sex slavery in one form or another does exist in Australia. I have come in contact with Girls who were tempted with the prospect of a "waitress" job and then forced into working in a brothel. A freind of mine in Melbourne was involved in helping these girls out and back to Thailand. In thailand these particular girls certainly were not working girls, they were Duped.
    You are correct in a way,except this business was run as a Hotel.The birds "hired" the rooms and were free to come(no pun intended ) and go as they please.They were independant contractors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
    A bloke that i knew in NZ, (who was the GM of a very well respected company) had a 1/4 share in a massage parlour(knock shop).They employed mainly Thais.
    Hows a Massage parlour (knock shop) suddenly turned into a hotel ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok
    A bloke that i knew in NZ, (who was the GM of a very well respected company) had a 1/4 share in a massage parlour(knock shop).They employed mainly Thais.
    Hows a Massage parlour (knock shop) suddenly turned into a hotel ?
    You have a lounge full of birds.Punters come in grab the bird.They go to a room and the bird has to pay the "House" rental for the room.That's how it becomes a hotel(of sorts...).

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    So its not the Carlton hotel then ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Likewise
    No need for a cynical hat. Doesn't mean that she's a bargirl that others can force you into prostitution in a foreign country.
    I dont think anyone ever said that - we are pretty much on the same page here (metaphorically speaking)... To clarify, what I meant is that her entire story may be fabricated - she could be out to get revenge on these people and wildly exaggerate.

    Of course, if she is not lying, then it does not matter if she is/was a bargirl or not, and the icky icky little creeps who forced her into slavery need to be punished somehow.

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    Women 'auctioned' for prostitution

    From correspondents in London June 05, 2006

    FOREIGN women are being auctioned off for prostitution in public places in Britain such as airports, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said today.

    "Criminal activity at the UK's airports is on the increase," said the CPS's director in west London, Nazir Afzal.
    "We are now seeing slave auctions being held in public places at airports where brothel keepers are bidding for women destined for prostitution."
    A spokesman for the CPS said one such auction was held recently in front of a cafe in the arrivals hall at Gatwick airport, south of London.
    Other sales had taken place in the London airports of Heathrow and Stansted, and at other British airports, he said.
    The CPS, which tomorrow hosts a conference on crime in airports, said the people-traffickers are selling the young women as they arrived in Britain, often from eastern European countries.
    The most recent government figures show that five years ago 1400 women were working as prostitutes in quasi-slavery in Britain.
    Gloucestershire Chief Constable Tim Brain, head of the Operation Pentameter police operation aimed at dismantling forced prostitution networks, said the numbers are now much greater.
    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...1-1702,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan
    So its not the Carlton hotel then ?
    I don't think so Tim....

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    Fred D's the name, from Reefton

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