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    Time in Thailand = Knowledge Really?

    I met a guy the other day. One of those long termers who seem to live by the above mantra.

    He went out of his way to tell me (unsolicited, of course) how I should have handled a particular interaction "the Thai way".

    He concluded by saying something along the lines of "I should know...I have lived here for 14 years."

    Having always found this assumption that time in Thailand automatically equates to knowledge of Thailand a little hard to swallow, I replied...

    "Really? I know plenty of guys who have lived in Australia for all their lives, and they still don't know shit from clay."

    He didn't get it...

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    ^ Agreed.

    Time spent in a country or location is not relevant.

    What a person knows and has experienced and learned....is relevant.

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    it does have some validity .....

    but generally when comparing some1 whos only been here a few months or so

    once somebody has lived here a year or more than usually they have a good idea of whats goning on ....

    however, it is also true IME - I'm still learning stuff about thai's and thailand - and i been here a number of years ! i dont think i'll ever know everything about thailand.

    but having some long term expat condescendly tell u how he knows better ..... grrrr!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwillyhggtb
    but having some long term expat condescendly tell u how he knows better ..... grrrr!
    Yeah that foks me off too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torbek
    "I should know...I have lived here for 14 years."
    I get that quite a lot, I normally don't bother telling them that I have actually lived here longer than them, but sometimes it is quite funny after an hour or so of them telling me about Thailand, and then they ask how long have I lived here.

    I think after a year or 2 a person would know as much about thailand as someone who has been here 20 years, also their knowledge of Thailand would be more current.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    I think after a year or 2 a person would know as much about thailand as someone who has been here 20 years, also their knowledge of Thailand would be more current.
    yeah DD, I,ve been here just over 2 years and I find the know-it-all cnuts are the ones who fokin whinge and moan about Thailand

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    Of course time spent here has some validity, but it's not the full story. It's also a ptoduct of your surroundings, no one knows everything about everywhere. Even back home in UK would you expect a born and bred, London office worker to know much about life in say a westcountry farming village or a northen mineing town?
    Many expats living in city or tourist areas never learn more than very basic Thai, as there is no real need for them to learn, although I would of thought it would seriously hamper your understanding os "thai culture".

    Here on the farm I'm in my own element so to speak. I know the people , how things work and the culture but put me in BKK or Pattaya and I'm just an other tourist.
    I have more than the average number of arm and legs

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomChances
    Here on the farm I'm in my own element so to speak. I know the people , how things work and the culture but put me in BKK or Pattaya and I'm just an other COUNTRY BUMPKIN.
    quite true

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomChances
    Here on the farm I'm in my own element so to speak. I know the people , how things work and the culture but put me in BKK or Pattaya and I'm just an other COUNTRY BUMPKIN.
    quite true
    5555, ok I would'nt argue the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torbek
    I should have handled a particular interaction "the Thai way".
    Yep, which is to either ignore it and hope it goes away, to say mai ben rai and think about something fun instead, to lie and cheat to fix the problem quickly and easily, to pay someone off, to keep jai yen whilst your second "internal" face wishes that the person will be reborn a 3 legged dog, to blame it on someone else, etc...

    such methods work in Thailand, but nowhere else in the world.

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    ....because you have been everywhere, eh???

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    ^ good point. I meant nowhere in the developed world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torbek
    I met a guy the other day. One of those long termers who seem to live by the above mantra.
    There are plenty of fucked up types like this around (Bangkokj Phil?). They gave up living in the developed world long ago, relegated themselves to the third world, burnt their bridges and lost their dignity, but still manage to scrape together a couple of grammes of pride by looking down on other expats who dragged themselves to Thailand more recently....

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    ^^That's better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    Quote Originally Posted by Torbek
    I met a guy the other day. One of those long termers who seem to live by the above mantra.
    There are plenty of fucked up types like this around (Bangkokj Phil?). They gave up living in the developed world long ago, relegated themselves to the third world, burnt their bridges and lost their dignity, but still manage to scrape together a couple of grammes of pride by looking down on other expats who dragged themselves to Thailand more recently....
    Have to agree with that.
    Those type of people are in no position to look down on their peers, if anything they're worse.

    Of course I wouldn't go so far as to name Uncle Phil..................but that tosser Diaw does come to mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolcleaner
    but that tosser Diaw does come to mind!
    He is not a good example.

    He is South African and they have to have someone to look down on, now.

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    ^that's twice in as many seconds! watch your back young lady or I'll red ya!

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    Ooowaaah! (Taking her foot out of her mouth)

    Are you South African too?

    Well, present company excepted William.

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    ^not exactly South African, but not a 1,000 km away either

    And fair's fair, when you come from our part of the world what choice are you left with: live in Thailand like a King or return to the bush?

    As I've often said, I'm one of the few people who went up a step on the development ladder moving to Thailand

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    Makes me smile when some long termer tells me about this country like I know sod all about it.

    I don't bother letting them know what I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    Ooowaaah! (Taking her foot out of her mouth)

    Are you South African too?

    Well, present company excepted William.
    hahahaha !

    you in trouble Lily!

    i think that makes you .................


    the official board big mouth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torbek
    I met a guy the other day. One of those long termers who seem to live by the above mantra.

    He went out of his way to tell me (unsolicited, of course) how I should have handled a particular interaction "the Thai way".

    He concluded by saying something along the lines of "I should know...I have lived here for 14 years."

    Having always found this assumption that time in Thailand automatically equates to knowledge of Thailand a little hard to swallow, I replied...

    "Really? I know plenty of guys who have lived in Australia for all their lives, and they still don't know shit from clay."

    He didn't get it...
    The dude obviously didn't know fuck, otherwise he'da kept fuckin yapp shut and minded his own business. Soe people go through life never learn a thing.
    It does take time in the country to learn to roll with the unique punches that seem to get thrown, Some folks never fuckin' get it.
    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty -- T. Jefferson


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    There are plenty of fucked up types like this around
    And now in Korea, eh Smeg?

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    but korea is waaaaaaaaay better than thailand

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    He'll be speaking fluent Korean by next week.

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