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    Well, I work with young English men and they insist that English people say, 'on Scott Street'.
    I have told them they have watched too much American TV, but they insist that only Australians say 'in' with a street.

    And Marmite, I used to live in Scott Street, and it was a very busy inner city street, so there may be some unemployed or runnaways living on it.

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    I used to live at the end of Grand Street. About 150 feet offshore from the end of Grand Street to be precise.

    Anyway Lily, you've piqued my interest: on American would say on Scott Street. Would a Brit say on or in?

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    The British Council teach you that "you live in a street" not on. That is US version

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    Otherstuff, I am Australian and I live 'in' streets.

    I also think that if these young men asked their parents, they would live 'in' streets too.

    We also still use gaol, which they tell me went out in England with the Battle of Hastings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiamCutie
    The British Council teach you that "you live in a street" not on.
    Yep. 'In' is the correct way.

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    please what is a thaophile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by changmai
    please what is a thaophile?
    I've never came across the word before joining this forum, but would think it's someone who like's Thai type "stuff". Probably the "phile" coming from latin or greek meaning to like something.
    But I'm just a semi illiterate country bumpkin so could just be talking out of my ass
    I have more than the average number of arm and legs

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    I disagree RC, I think the infusion of Welsh has added great humour and eloquence to this once shoddy board.
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    Thaiophile is a smegism.

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    yes, Lily, Smeg is the generator of that ugly word.

    For him, it has many connotations, such as those who like Thailand also get very upset if someone (read Smeg) criticises the place.

    What he does not realise, or closes his eyes to, is that people who live here and enjoy it do tend to defend it IF the attacks are nonsensical

    Smeg thinks he is the only rational farang in Thailand, so any defense is because those people cannot see reality.

    He does not understand that some people just get annoyed with his repetitious behaviour, and wish him to post some sense.

    People who have made a life here have not, necessarily, fled their home country because it was hateful or they were abject failures there, as he insists. They do see the problems he mentions, but feel they can live with them. After all, every country has its plusses and minusses, they just differ.

    Smeg does not realise that his problems occur from within himself, as they do for most people. it does not matter where you are, you cannot run away from yourself. A bit trite maybe, but true nonetheless.

    So his continuing carping and complaining about groups of people here, it is all a reflection of the man himself. So, if you are a happy person in Thailand (a Thaiophile) or a TEFL teacher who is content to let the days roll by, good luck to you. It is your choice and I hope you are happy.
    I have reported your post

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    If that was for me Andy, I have to tell you, you are preaching to the converted.

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    just general observations Lily, you can have it if you like

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    yes, Lily, Smeg is the generator of that ugly word.

    What he does not realise, or closes his eyes to, is that people who live here and enjoy it do tend to defend it IF the attacks are nonsensical

    He does not understand that some people just get annoyed with his repetitious behaviour, and wish him to post some sense.

    Smeg does not realise that his problems occur from within himself, as they do for most people. it does not matter where you are, you cannot run away from yourself. A bit trite maybe, but true nonetheless.
    Four replies to this most misleading and incorrect post.

    1) I DID NOT create the word "Thaiophile". I spotted it being used on 20dayajarnforum, and liked it so began using it. Any fan of that site can do a search to see who first used it.

    2) People do not generally defend Thailand against my attacks. I'd be quite happy if they did, ie remained on-topic, but they usually resort to personal insults, nasty attacks and "psychological analysis" tactics to try to upset me and scare me away, as they lack any proper defence.

    3) I don't care what people "wish" (or more like try to force) me to write about. I'll damn well write about what I want....

    4) I have no problems. I think its perfectly normal to prefer one's own culture to an alien culture, and it is also perfectly normal and healthy to criticise things which are personally identified as irrational. However, I don't think it is normal to get upset and try to scare people who do this away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by changmai
    please what is a thaophile?
    A Thaiophile in my opinion is someone who wears rose-tinted spectacles in Thailand;
    someone who can't or refuses to see or admit the faults in Thailand
    someone who perhaps prefers Thai people and culture to their own people and culture;
    someone who encourages other people to live here, especially for their own personal gain (Bkk Phil and kenkannif);
    someone who perhaps hates their native country, for one or many of a variety of reasons;

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    someone who perhaps hates their native country, for one or many of a variety of reasons;
    I asume you mean someone living in Thailand and the above.
    My best mate hates the UK and lives in Sweden, wouldn't necessarily call him a Thaiophile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeg
    A Thaiophile in my opinion is someone who wears rose-tinted spectacles in Thailand; someone who can't or refuses to see or admit the faults in Thailand someone who perhaps prefers Thai people and culture to their own people and culture; someone who encourages other people to live here, especially for their own personal gain (Bkk Phil and kenkannif); someone who perhaps hates their native country, for one or many of a variety of reasons;
    Oooh good, a check list. *lick end of pencil, and sticks tongue out*

    1. someone who wears rose-tinted spectacles in Thailand - Nope, but I have some nice sunglasses for when it's really in your face.

    2. someone who can't or refuses to see or admit the faults in Thailand - Nope - there are plenty of things wrong with the country - the education system stinks, the government stinks, a lot of Thais are very insular in their worldview.

    3. someone who perhaps prefers Thai people and culture to their own people and culture - Hmm, a definite maybe on this one. Depends what you mean by culture, I suppose, but if you're on about the gentler pace of life, the tolerance, the general mai bpen rai feel of the place, then yes, I'll cop to that.

    4. someone who encourages other people to live here, especially for their own personal gain - Nope, definitely not. The fewer pasty-faced lumps the better in my opinion. (Speaking as a pasty-faced lump, of course).

    5. someone who perhaps hates their native country, for one or many of a variety of reasons - Nope - I don't hate the UK, there are lots of things I love about it - cider, cricket, Twiglets, Newsnight, little villages in the Lake District, the beaches of Cornwall, crisp cold winter mornings - but loving some things about the UK doesn't stop me loving things about Thailand too.

    So Smeg, what's your verdict?

    *holds breath*
    The sleep of reason brings forth monsters.

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    An excellent reply and one that I could go along with almost all the way, except I don't like cider, though oddly, cider loliipops were my favourite.

    So Smeg, what's your verdict?

    *holds breath*
    I too am interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    the tolerance
    I like this one.

    The Thais tolerate so much corruption (Toxin), and then all hell breaks loose.

    The authorities tolerate bars opening all night, do they?

    The people tolerate people damaging religious statues, do they?

    The law does include lessez-majesty, doesn't it?

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    Not bad Benbaa, he only managed to find fault in one of your words.
    good work.

    The authorities tolerate bars opening all night, do they?
    As they have always done in the uk...of course.

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    ^ Ooh, nice one. Take one word out of a reply and argue with it. This could go on all night...

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    ^ Ooh, nice one. Take one word out of a reply and argue with it. This could go on all night...
    Well what do you want? A full psychological analsyis based on the info you provided?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon
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    Not bad Benbaa, he only managed to find fault in one of your words.
    good work.
    "Good work"?

    I dunno what Benbaa was actually trying to do. I don't think I've ever called him a Thaiophile, and don't care if he is or isn't...

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    Go on then.

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    I dunno what Benbaa was actually trying to do. I've never called him a Thaiophile, and don't care if he is or isn't...
    I think he was trying to prove that he isn't the fictitious definition of your fictitious word which you never invented in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa
    ^ Ooh, nice one. Take one word out of a reply and argue with it. This could go on all night...
    Well you are welcome to explain what you mean by tolerence. I picked this out as it was quite a thaiophile thing to say.

    If you mean "too lazy and self-interested to give a shit about anything that doesn't personally affect or damage them", then I'd have to agree!

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