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    To answer the OP, its all in the intent, some people say it meaning no harm ... therefore no harm done, just ignorance really.

    some people mean it with venom, then it really is an insult.


    but............

    you aint gonna change them,

    the only thing you can change/effect is your daughter's reaction to the name.

    dignity awaits.

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    I am a Chao tang pratet

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    i am a proud mongrel who thinks this topic has been done to fucking death.

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    The OP said his ex-wife was an ex-bar girl. I think Thais are more likely to look down and descriminate against her!
    I wonder what our erstwhile friend ERCO would say?

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    ^ "slagdawg" x's 1,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsidian
    this topic has been done to fucking death.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    oh lord, here we go again
    I think this topic has subtle differences to previous discussions about "farang".
    children come out with the farang / mbaksida all the time , but I don't think there is much malice in it , but what loy toy is describing seems to have much more in the way of offensive connotations - it has to be parental predudice supported by a diet of television soap operas , but it is a question of is it worsening?


    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
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    how is gwailo pronounced , I only ever was referred to as lao eye .
    If you torture data for enough time , you can get it to say what you want.

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    Gweilo is Cantonese.

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    My kids are horrified if they get called Thai.

    One looks very Thai but he's welsh as far as he's concerned.

    The little one who looks more farang sometimes thiks he's English.

    He does get punished for that.

    As for the term, it does not come from the French on their way to Vietname, it comes from the Persian word ferengi.

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    Agree with KW, falang swings both ways depending on the context. Same as in English, you can say foreigner with respect or you can use it as a slur.

    On the luk krung thing, there was one poster on here who referred to his child as a luk double, which I thought was a nice twist. Thai pronunciation: luk dubben
    The sleep of reason brings forth monsters.

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    Is the Australians referring to Paki's racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    Is the Australians referring to Paki's racist?
    No, just ungrammatical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    white caucasian
    Honkey is easy to say

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    well in the UK it is viewed as such by the Pakistani community

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    exactly, it's not the word, but the way it has been used in the UK as a degrogatory word has made it an insult. the australians don't see it that way.

    Same with farang, there are times you can be referred to farang and you know it is derogatory. It's not the word, it's the manner in which it is used.

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    So if I was to say "have a nice day paki" with a smile, would that be acceptable ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by obsidian
    this topic has been done to fucking death.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    oh lord, here we go again
    I think this topic has subtle differences to previous discussions about "farang".
    Agree, this could have been a more interesting discussion about Farang's Luk Kreung kids and their attitude to racial stereotypes and labels.

    The thread title gave me the same initial reaction as DrB0b.

    Maybe should have called it 'Are your kids Farang or Thai?'.

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    well your call. Start a new thread.

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    Sorry, I aint got any kids

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    I have no kid, too. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    it comes from the Persian word ferengi.
    No, that can't be right. I've seen Ferengi on Star Trek and they look more Welsh than Persian.

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    From tfd.com (the free dictionary)

    Etymology

    The name "Ferengi" is an Arabic name for European traders, or for Westerners in general. Both the Arabic word and the name are similarly pronounced /fɛˈrɪŋɡi/ (IPA). The name is likely derived from the Arabic word faranj or ifranj, "Franks", or possibly the Persian word farangi, meaning "foreigner". In Ethiopia, ferenj or ferenji has the same meaning. The Greeks used Farang or farangi to refer to western Europeans, especially from Catalonia. It has the connotations of an ethnic slur against Europeans, and was used as a partially derogatory term in India to denote the British, especially by those resisting British rule. However the word is often used in an affectionate way. The Star Trek usage is derived from the above.[1]

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    Quote Originally Posted by benbaaa View Post
    On the luk krung thing, there was one poster on here who referred to his child as a luk double, which I thought was a nice twist. Thai pronunciation: luk dubben
    That would be me. But it was in reference to my kids being called "half" by Japanese. They're grown now, both living in the States.

    I still think these kids benefit from exposure to twice as much language, culture, travel, food, life experience than their (whole, pure, 100%, original) namecalling counterparts. Nothing half about them.

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    Farang means 'why does that strange man dribble when he looks at our daughters'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun View Post
    So if I was to say "have a nice day paki" with a smile, would that be acceptable ?
    Most of my friends here are Pomys with a few Taffys and Jocks thrown in between. For some reason don't get on too well with the Aussies that come here.

    Terms such as "Paki" I have heard being used on many occasions in what I feel was both for a derogatory purpose and in other ways light hearted banter.
    I suppose a term can be altered in meaning quite dramatically by the way it is verbally delivered.

    You can also call someone a silly cnut and get away with it as light hearted banter.
    Call a Thai a "Heeee" with a rising tone and see the famous Thai smile quickly disappear from their gobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Sorry, I aint got any kids
    I got 7. Wanna adopt one or two?

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