Thread: What's the Thai word for 'Initiative'?

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Originally Posted by The Gentleman Scamp

I wasn't having a go at Thai's

"Thais", without apostrophe, that should be.
And of course you were not, you have mastered the Thai language and chose to stay here, in spite of the marvelous opportunities awaiting you back in Blighty.

OK, Thais then.

Here's the apostrophe:

'

You know where you can stick it, don't you.

Originally Posted by thegent

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Norton

Unlike the citizens of the much superior west, without initiative the people of Isaan would starve to death.

Actually, I disagree (a little bit).

It is because it is nearly impossible to starve in Thailand that Thais have very little initiative and fore-thought. .

Oh really?

Reading crass statements from clueless falang on boards such as these is usually an entertainment for me but this one certainly takes the biscuit ( excuse the metaphor ) to such a degree that I almost find it as offensive as it is blindingly stupid.

Poor Isaan folk unable to subsidise their income from proceeds of industry denied to them because there are simply bugger all opportunities have to subsist on an unbalanced diet of rice, fermented fish and whichever edible vegetation can be gathered. Occasionally, pork may be available but due to its cheapness this is probably in the form of poorly nutritious sausages. Children from poverty stricken backgrounds inevitably suffer malnutrition to a degree and consequently their development is hindered both physically and intellectually.

Perhaps that's why they are so stupid and lazy?

Any more insights from beer swilling fat farang welded to their barstools of stupidity?

So the statement that they are not starving is right.

The kids are getting fatter in Bangkok - dunno about Issan.

[quote=Fabian;
So the statement that they are not starving is right.[/quote]

Yes, in the sense that you may have a brain which, on current performance, is probably quite doubtful.

Honestly, what is the point......

The point is that you missed the point.

Tell me Fabian, is being obtuse your hobby?

If you missed the point how does that make me obtuse?

I like the fact most Thai people are crap, it makes the decent ones fine people worth knowing, and two of my best friends of all time are Thai with a 52 year old woman as a strong contender for third.

She's so smart and clued up she even understands how crap her nation are - but most of all she, like me understand the reason for this.

It's because 90% of our species as humans are useless, greedy scumbags wherever we were born in the world.

Originally Posted by Fabian

If you missed the point how does that make me obtuse?

Excellent. I shall leave you to wrestle with that conundrum.

Originally Posted by stroller

What is Thai for "conceited, ill-mannered jerks who cannot look pass their preconceptions"?

no idea what the thai word is, but on this forum, i guess the word is : 'stroller'

Originally Posted by thegent

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Norton

Unlike the citizens of the much superior west, without initiative the people of Isaan would starve to death.

Actually, I disagree (a little bit).

It is because it is nearly impossible to starve in Thailand that Thais have very little initiative and fore-thought. .

Oh really?

Reading crass statements from clueless falang on boards such as these is usually an entertainment for me but this one certainly takes the biscuit ( excuse the metaphor ) to such a degree that I almost find it as offensive as it is blindingly stupid.

Poor Isaan folk unable to subsidise their income from proceeds of industry denied to them because there are simply bugger all opportunities have to subsist on an unbalanced diet of rice, fermented fish and whichever edible vegetation can be gathered. Occasionally, pork may be available but due to its cheapness this is probably in the form of poorly nutritious sausages. Children from poverty stricken backgrounds inevitably suffer malnutrition to a degree and consequently their development is hindered both physically and intellectually.

Perhaps that's why they are so stupid and lazy?

Any more insights from beer swilling fat farang welded to their barstools of stupidity?

i would not like to be seen taking sides on this one, and i can not speak for the whole of isaan, but if my village was used as the example, i would have to agree with the beer swilling fat farang welded to his barstool of stupidity.....
i have lived amongst these people, as one of them, poor as one of them, and there are opportunities for every one of them IF THEY ARE PREPARED TO MAKE THE EFFORT!
they deny THEMSELVES the opportunities because they DO NOT WANT THEM.
i know one thai girl in my village, from a poor background, who worked hard at her (free) government provided education, went on to (free) university and achieved a law degree. she was not offered any opportunities that were not available to any of the other worthless wasters in the village, but she made good.....
i can vouch for what marmite said. once walked about 200 metres down the soi i live in, my thai friend gathering an herb here, some leaves, some babanas, five snails, one snake, some insects and an handfull of frogs. add this to the bowl of rice that is always available, and he had a pretty nutritious meal (if not palatable to most farang). this guy CHOOSES to live like this, simply because the alternative (working for a living) is a thought that would never enter his head.
how many thais that i know walk around dripping with gold, have a brand new pickup in the yard, but live like pigs in their shacks, and eat rotten fish with rice?
i agree that at least half the isaan kids are malnourished, but this is mainly due to the ignorance of their parents, who hand out "kanom" whenever the kid squeals for it instead of making him eat his meal first. most of them also believe that an handfull of rice with some rotten fish ia a good wholesome meal.
due to a lack of education? seems the government does it's best to give them free education plus FREE, nutritious COOKED MEALS AND A CARTON OF MILK at school every day, but the education is shunned, resisted at all costs, because they may learn something that contradicts their traditional beliefs.
thai peasants are pretty well off in my part of isaan, not starving, just ignorant, lazy and mostly too drunk to work!
now get off YOUR fukkn barstool and go look for yourself.....

Given the cost of what most would recognise as the basis of a nutritious diet added to what interest may accrue on loans to pay for health, a piece of land and whatever misfortune might befall the hapless Isaanite, I would suggest that there might be little left to go around.

Most recognise the grinding poverty of Isaan, the reasons for it, the hopeless expectation that things may get better and the bitter inescapable truth that the feudalism surrounding their incomprehension is as immutable as your stupidity.

To castigate them for seeking recourse to lao khao in the face of such adversity strikes me as somewhat churlish but then the Christian ethic of judgement and censure among clueless farang is as strong now as it may have been among the Catholic inquisators of Spain, or so it seems.

Starvation is an absolute measured in death, malnourishment and continual hunger is another thing stoically suffered but the fat bellied falang parvenu, slouch shouldered in their drinking ghettoes, could hardly be expected to understand as you have so vividly demonstrated.

Originally Posted by thegent

Given the cost of what most would recognise as the basis of a nutritious diet added to what interest may accrue on loans to pay for health, a piece of land and whatever misfortune might befall the hapless Isaanite, I would suggest that there might be little left to go around.

Most recognise the grinding poverty of Isaan, the reasons for it, the hopeless expectation that things may get better and the bitter inescapable truth that the feudalism surrounding their incomprehension is as immutable as your stupidity.

To castigate them for seeking recourse to lao khao in the face of such adversity strikes me as somewhat churlish but then the Christian ethic of judgement and censure among clueless farang is as strong now as it may have been among the Catholic inquisators of Spain, or so it seems.

Starvation is an absolute measured in death, malnourishment and continual hunger is another thing stoically suffered but the fat bellied falang parvenu, slouch shouldered in their drinking ghettoes, could hardly be expected to understand as you have so vividly demonstrated.

spoken like someone who has never been to isaan...

there is no interest to be paid on loans for health, since healthcare is provided free, or at a very low price to most in isaan.

no thai needs to pay for land, as, if he can prove he does not have any, land will be provided free.

isaan people do not shop at 7 eleven, you know.

there is always enough to go around for booze.

THIS "fat, ignorant farang" has been hungry. it is a terrible thing, but hunger is not suffered by the poor in isaan.
any person who does not have food or shelter is welcomed by any of the temples, where food and shelter is provided free of charge. i never saw anybody taking advantage of this, so i have to assume that nobody was homeless or hungry, just lazy and ignorant.

I'm terribly sorry tsicar, I didn't know you were a total idiot.

Best we refrain from any further interaction.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by thegent

I'm terribly sorry tsicar, I didn't know you were a total idiot.

Best we refrain from any further interaction.

Really, thegent, you should pay more attention before posting. In every post he's made tsicar has shown he's an idiot. There are un-contacted tribes in the Amazon basin who tell their children that if they don't pay attention at Shaman School they'll grow up to be as dumb as tsicar.

It is refreshing to see, from his post above, that he's finally admitted to being a fat, ignorant, farang. Acceptance is the first step on the road to recovery.

piss off bob.
i am not fat!

The government give land to the Thais, if theyt dont have?I not believe this. But the Queen and King are very caring for the people.

Originally Posted by tsicar

Originally Posted by DrB0b

It is refreshing to see, from his post above, that he's finally admitted to being a fat, ignorant, farang. Acceptance is the first step on the road to recovery.

piss off bob.
i am not fat!

hmmm,

Originally Posted by tsicar

THIS fat, ignorant farang has been hungry.

Hmm!

Originally Posted by Snickers

The government give land to the Thais, if theyt dont have?I not believe this. But the Queen and King are very caring for the people.

Yes they do. The Thais then sell the land. 5 years later, when it's got a nice seaside resort built on it, the government confiscates it because you're not allowed to sell that land, everybody's happy except the farang who shelled out 20 million baht for land without a Chanote

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Snickers

The government give land to the Thais, if theyt dont have?I not believe this. But the Queen and King are very caring for the people.

Yes they do. The Thais then sell the land. 5 years later, when it's got a nice seaside resort built on it, the government confiscates it because you're not allowed to sell that land, everybody's happy except the farang who shelled out 20 million baht for land without a Chanote

one example of thai initiative. just to get back on topic.......

Originally Posted by tsicar

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Snickers

The government give land to the Thais, if theyt dont have?I not believe this. But the Queen and King are very caring for the people.

Yes they do. The Thais then sell the land. 5 years later, when it's got a nice seaside resort built on it, the government confiscates it because you're not allowed to sell that land, everybody's happy except the farang who shelled out 20 million baht for land without a Chanote

one example of thai initiative. just to get back on topic.......

There's a topic?