How do I give up smoking?

**Rambo** · 31-03-2008, 10:59 PM

I know dj pat gave up smoking the dope this year and now hes back on the drink and valium the poor muthafucka, wally you know him so i think you should send him a pm and advise him as hes looking bad nowadays just as work is picking up.

you don't know me but i 'm a new friend of pats who has just arrived from Hong kong and we met online and he showed me this site after I got banned off thaivisa.

**sesame** · 31-03-2008, 11:57 PM

Just make a deadline and stop.

Willpower, pure and simple.
You will feel like shite for a few weeks, but to be honest it was nowhere near as hard as I'd heard. It helps to have a partner/friend doing same.

The benefits are innumerable.

I was a 2-pack a day smoker.

**MeMock** · 01-04-2008, 01:07 AM

Hi Wally, I have no idea how to give up smoking as I never started.

Just wanted to say congrats on giving up drinking and turning your life around like you have.

Where will you be doing the tour guide work?

**tom** · 01-04-2008, 01:11 AM

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No doubt you have noticed all the truely good advice for you here ranges from easy to stop smoking to impossible. You fit in there somewhere.

Our ability to fool ourselves into believing what we want to believe is without limit.

Go to a doctor. Get some help. Dont ever give up attempting to stop. What works for you will happen.

**kingwilly** · 01-04-2008, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by slimboyfat

but how much do you know about the hormone cortisol KW?

evidently nothing.

**El Gibbon** · 01-04-2008, 08:21 AM

BG's advise is the one and ONLY way to go.

I smoked for 25 years until I got a busted gallbladder and ended up in white rooms for a week. Never touched another for 5 years!

Was about to lose a business and had lots of pressure. Went to the local bar, as usual in the evening for a toddy, my Doctor was sitting there and I took one of his just to see how it tasted. He told be "don't, it's worse the second time," and he was right.

Previously I had smoked a pack a day, since that day I do at least two packs a day. The irony is that after watching me Doc quit for the third time and has maintained it ever since ( 20 + years).

In the five years I had quit it never even bothered me to be in smoke filled bars, clubs etc. Never had a craving until the one time.

You gotta do it cold turkey and its a battle, from time to time, forever.

Good luck

E. G.

**blackgang** · 01-04-2008, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by tom

Go to a doctor. Get some help.

Whats a Dr. gonna do, sew your lips together so ya can't get a cig in em??

Or maybe tell you that smoking ain't good for you??

**tom** · 01-04-2008, 09:20 AM

^ If you go to a stupid doctor yea.

**JoGeAr** · 01-04-2008, 09:41 AM

I found that the best way to give up was to have a heart attack !!

I had smoked for 35 years and had only given up once for about 2 months around 10 years ago. I was never a heavy smoker, averaging arond 10 - 15 a day but the Wednesday before Easter I had just finished my usual smoke after dinner when I started feeling severe chest pain with accelerated and erratic heartbeat. Called an ambulance and just got out of hospital last Thursday. Really stuffed up our Easter holiday plans. Gotta go back next Wednesday and have a third try at an angioplasty and insertion of a stent. My LAD (left anterior descending) artery (aka the widowmaker) is totally blocked. First try at unblocking it failed miserably. Second try was partially successful after 4 hours. Not a pleasant experience lying on the table wide awake looking at your heart beating on the TV monitor while they stick a tube into your femoral artery in your groin and start prodding at your heart with a piece of wire. And yes, it fucking hurts !!

It will be two weeks tomorrow since I've had a smoke. I dream about the fucking things every night and at certain trigger points during the day (like morning coffee and after meals) I almost go crazy for a smoke. It's gonna be hard but I find that BG's suggestion works best for me - 'Not now, maybe tomorrow' approach.

The 'weaning off' method doesn't work for me. Have tried it several times to absolutely no effect.

Good luck Wally. It's not gonna be easy but they tell me it's worth it. It fucking better be, anyway !!

**mrsquirrel** · 01-04-2008, 09:53 AM

you big poof. giving up the gear, beers and smokes? What are you a man or a Ozzy?

Anyway.

Smokes are easy enough to give up if you want to. When I quit four years back now or maybe three years back (can't remember).

I had a ciggy the previous evening and felt rather short of breath. Next morning got up and had my usual three for breakfast then my fourth on the way to work. Got into work got off the bike and decided that I was going to stop smoking. I worked out how many more I needed for that day kept them in the pack plus 1.

Smoked my usual amount for the day until I went to bed where I had one ciggy left which i put in a plastic box and stuck on top of a book shelf.

That was that. woke up the next morning and didn't smoke. Day three - 5 were hard on people around me but otherwise it was ok. Kept the one ciggy there for a few months. Never lapsed.

It's really a case of just stopping. All the programs and crap that you hear about ar e BS. You've stopped the beers and the weed - I found them harder to quit than the ciggies.

**blackgang** · 01-04-2008, 09:56 AM

^^, Yea dude, I do not set at the table anymore, thats where my pack and lighter and ashtray were always in their own place, now everytime I set down I feel like a smoke, I set down, eat and get away from there cause if there was a cig there I would damn sure light it..

**blackgang** · 01-04-2008, 10:01 AM

^^, I guess thats the way pussy does it,
I had a wife that smoked, got up one morning and didn't light one up, said she had quit,, just like that and has never had another and was not bothered by quitting, Even had part of a pack that didn't seem to bother her laying on the table, must be a knut thing.

**GTM** · 01-04-2008, 10:14 AM

Hi there, just come across your message about wanting to stop smoking. That is exactly what I do for a living, Clinical Hypnotherapy. I dont know if you have managed to kick the habit already but if you havent then I am Bangkok based and offer 90 minute sessions at weekends and evenings. Smoking cessation hypnotherapy requires just a one off session in order to make use of your high level of motivation when you come. Charge 4000 Baht as a one off session.

If you are now a non smoker then well done and keep it up!

Best regards
Dave Hill

**JoGeAr** · 01-04-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by GTM

Charge 4000 Baht as a one off session.

Having a heart attack is cheaper (in Australua at least). 8 nights in the CCU (Coronary Care Unit), all drugs, tests, scans and procedures and the total cost was $20.00 (approx 600 baht), which was for the (shitload of) drugs I took home.

**friscofrankie** · 01-04-2008, 11:06 AM

That hypno Therapy crap only works if you want it to. if you want to quit badly enough it will work. Pretty much like quitting without the therapy.

**mrsquirrel** · 01-04-2008, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by GTM

Hi there, just come across your message about wanting to stop smoking. That is exactly what I do for a living, Clinical Hypnotherapy. I dont know if you have managed to kick the habit already but if you havent then I am Bangkok based and offer 90 minute sessions at weekends and evenings. Smoking cessation hypnotherapy requires just a one off session in order to make use of your high level of motivation when you come. Charge 4000 Baht as a one off session. If you are now a non smoker then well done and keep it up! Best regards Dave Hill

Are you the fella that used to post on Ajarn?

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 01-04-2008, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

you big poof. giving up the gear, beers and smokes? What are you a man or a Ozzy?

errmm .... can i be a mazzy? ...is there such a thing? ..on second thoughts, I don't want to be a mazzy. My aunt is named Marolin, and she is affectionatly refered to Aunty Maz. Don'y get me wrong, i love my aunty maz, but she is one of those aunties who when you try to kiss her hello or goodbye on the cheek, she turns around at the last second and lays a wet one on your lips. it's disgusting, and being a mazzy would remind me of her and those sloppy, smelly kisses. yuk! no thankyouree!

anyway, back on subject. it's true that i have given up the gear and beers, but i don't really think of that a a permanent thing. For one, i am busy starting some new studies and a new job, so i have to be focused right now. Also, I really did cane it when i was in los, so going on a health kick for a while is something that i really do need to do. but have no fear! Wally will party when there is reason good enough!

Thanks to all who have given advice and suppoort in this thread. I guess i knew that the only person who could help me was myself, but after reading it here in white and dark blue, i feel that i can quit the habit for good. If i don't, i'll always have one of you TD'ers on my case from now on anyway! - so i really do feel that i am not doing it just for myself, but for all you lovely people out there! Don't worry, i know that you couldn'r really give a flying gecko, but i've always wanted to say that.. anyway, i have less than 10 ciggies left in my last box - which truth be told, is my 10th last box in a month, and i will keep you all informed of my progress.

Thanks again!

Wally

**Wally Dorian Raffles** · 01-04-2008, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by MeMock

Hi Wally, I have no idea how to give up smoking as I never started.

Just wanted to say congrats on giving up drinking and turning your life around like you have.

Where will you be doing the tour guide work?

Hi Memock!

Thanks mate. i'm in cairns. it's the first time for me to live here, so everything is new to me and i'm enjoying the place. don't know long i will stay for - atleast a year or 2. my parents just built a new home here, and i am spending time with them for the first time in 15 years which is a good thing as they are getting on in years. the fishing here is great, and the tropical fruits divine! Drop me a line if you are in the neighborhood, and we can go tuna fishing ...Mmmm sashimi is gooood! ..

**blackgang** · 01-04-2008, 08:27 PM

well do not worry about how hard it is to quit smoking,
Shit I have quit at least 100,000 times, just in the last year I have quit way over 1000 times, and right now i aint had a smoke in 4 months.

Give er hell bro......

**Bluecat** · 01-04-2008, 09:20 PM

Scampy has some advice for you

https://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lou...-hydrogen.html (What happens if I inhale hydrogen?)

Start breathing hydrogen and you'll never smoke again...

**kingwilly** · 01-04-2008, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by JoGeAr

I found that the best way to give up was to have a heart attack !!

holy crap, 2 weeks ago! te.

good to see u ok. stay well mate

**DJ Pat** · 01-04-2008, 09:51 PM

From what was said earlier in the thread yes it's true but I'm getting myself in order instead of whingeing about it.

It's true, I am depressed and suffer from it but we all have our dark corners I suppose.

Cheers Rambo.

**barbaro** · 01-04-2008, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

From what was said earlier in the thread yes it's true but I'm getting myself in order instead of whingeing about it.

Answer only if you want, Pat.

Occasionally I take 7.5 mg of Valium to help me sleep. If I take less I feel no effect.

If I take more I feel drowsy the next day.

How about you?

**DJ Pat** · 01-04-2008, 10:05 PM

I take 5mg then another 5mg about an hour later so I can drop off about 20 minutes after that.

If I took the 10mg in one hit would it be better?

I go jogging most days and that sweats it all out so I get no build up of tolerance.

**barbaro** · 01-04-2008, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

I take 5mg then another 5mg about an hour later so I can drop off about 20 minutes after that.

If I took the 10mg in one hit would it be better?

I don't know. I think everyone is different. When I took 10 mg at once I slept well, but I felt groggy the next day, in the early hours.

I go jogging most days and that sweats it all out so I get no build up of tolerance.

You can sweat it out? Thanks.

I sweat a lot.

I don't take valium often but it really can help get a good nights sleep.

Whether I drink or don't drink, I go to bed late, get up way too early, and the need to take a nap again.

During M - W, I am off the booze for the most part. Not always, but for the most part.

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