Canada vs America

[Jet Gorgon]

Let me open with a vid on our rednecks -- dunno what the Yanks think about this -- I meant to put another vid here. 55555555 See post #4

[barbaro]

Nationality again......

[Jet Gorgon]

Here's one with our PM.

[Jet Gorgon]

No worse than your navel pondering threads, MM.

[Marmite the Dog]

Canada vs America

I didn't think there was any difference.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Ask a Canadian tree hugger that, please.

[blackgang]

I am a redneck, I support my family and hunt my food and protect what is mine, so damn straight I am a Redneck,,fuckin A.

[mackayae]

Canada vs America

I didn't think there was any difference.

Eh!!!

[barbaro]

Canada and the US have many similarities, and they have many differences.

[English Noodles]

Americas first defeat, though they don't teach it that way in US schools of course.

The war of 1812.

[Bugs]

Americas first defeat, though they don't teach it that way in US schools of course.

The war of 1812.

Really it was a defeat? What did the US loose in the war of 1812?

The war was started over trade issues with the brits, the brits forcing US citizens into service in the brits navy, and support by the brits of the native Americans related to the US expansion into the northwest territories.

By the end of the war all of those points ended up favorable to the US. The brits eased up on trade issues, and eventually the states of Illinois, Indians, Michigan, and Ohio were settled and the native Americans pushed out. The brits also stopped the impressing bit - but more because they didn't need to any more than because of the war.

About the only thing that could be labled as a defeat in the whole deal is if one believes that the US had their eye on taking over parts of Canada and that the war of 1812 stopped them for doing so. Even if one conceeds this point that would still leave the US ahead on three of four issues related to why the war got started in the first place.

In reality neither side was very successful in the war, and it could easily be labled a draw as opposed to a victory or defeat for either side. Really very little time is spent on this topic in most US schools and I dare to say it is certainly not held up as a major victory or some such nosense.

[Norton]

I didn't think there was any difference.

Yeah same, same. Just like English, Scots, Welsh, Irish and the like.

[Norton]

Really very little time is spent on this topic in most US schools and I dare to say it is certainly not held up as a major victory or some such nosense.

Having gone to school in Canada in my formative years, it was taught in great detail. Funny how things work ain't it?

What did the US loose in the war of 1812?

Think there was a house burned down. Other than that I agree, not much was won or lost by either side.

[jim1176]

Let me open with a vid on our rednecks -- dunno what the Yanks think about this --

Don't get the point of the vid in your post

You think Thais are different / better than red necks

makes no sense

[barbaro]

Americas first defeat, though they don't teach it that way in US schools of course.

The war of 1812.

How was it a defeat?

I have forgotten.

[Marmite the Dog]

I didn't think there was any difference.

Yeah same, same. Just like English, Scots, Welsh, Irish and the like.

True.

[English Noodles]

Canadians believe the War of 1812 was an American defeat. From their point of view, the American invasions of 1813 and 1814 were repulsed. However, from the American point of view, the war was a successful defense of American rights.

[barbaro]

I didn't think there was any difference.

Yeah same, same. Just like English, Scots, Welsh, Irish and the like.

True.

No......

[Jet Gorgon]

^^ Noodles, you Canadian and American? How do you know what I believe or what the Amercans believe?
Fek, that stupid little war was all about trade anyway. The Americans wanted to trade with the French, who were at war with England. England got POed.
Laura Secord did well tho. And I do like her chocolates.

[Marmite the Dog]

I didn't think there was any difference.

Yeah same, same. Just like English, Scots, Welsh, Irish and the like.

True.

No......

Yes.

There's very little difference between everyone living on the British Isles. You get the occasional Jock or Paddy spouting some bollocks that might've had some meaning 400 years ago, but nowadays we all have the same media and schooling, so we're pretty much the same.

[English Noodles]

The motives of the U.S. in this war were to gain Canada and stop the impressment but at the end of the war No territorial gains were acquired by either sides.

The War hawks, being Southerners wanted more seats in Congress. If new states were created, they wanted the Southerners to populate them, if the War of 1812 had never happened Canada would be part of the United States today, as more and more American settlers would have arrived, and Canadian nationalism would never have developed.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Try again, please.

[English Noodles]

^Try what again, you are just a revisionist.

[English Noodles]

Try reading some of Pierre Bertons works if you are that clueless about your countries history Jet.

[Jet Gorgon]

^ Read most of Pierre's books when I was a kid. Doesn't mean I believe his version of history.
Face it, at that time, the Brits were at war with Napoleonic France and they wanted to ban trade in the new world with France. The US said FO. Canada was largely Brit then (altho there were many US immigrants who couldn't decide where to put their allegiance) so there were battles. But, it was more a war between the US and England, not between the US and Canada. Anyway, when Napoleon was defeated in 1814 or so, the whole new world battle fizzled. Back to trading and making money for all.