Thread: Finding my roots

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Wanker

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It does make one ponder the thought of how many unknown kids one has fathered out there.

Eg 100 one night stands in one's youth, no bagging it.

Who knows could be a football team out there.

I wasn't going to get involved with this thread, not wanting to go off topic, but how can I leave this unanswered?

Originally Posted by Reg Dingle

I watched this movie the other night about this guy who fathered over 500 kids via masturbating and selling his gunk to fertility clinics..and thought .....Mendy might have given him a run for his money if there was a mangel and some test tubes on his boat.

Besides, it doesn't work like that. You can't just get off the boat after a four week trip with 28 samples to sell. It has to be kept fresh and at constant temperature to remain viable. That is why men have testicles... and Yogi of course.

Originally Posted by Edmond

I've been meaning to do one of those DNA genealogy things that Mendo did a few years ago. Interesting to see your full history.

I got my mum and daughter tested but haven't done it myself yet, just haven't got round to it.

This was the daughter's result. There were a couple of surprises, not least the possibility of having some Welsh blood which I ain't happy about.

The Scandinavian content comes from my mother, who's family hail from the South Shields area. It wasn't really until the 20th Century that the UK's population started to become a lot more mobile, so the Viking blood in the north-east is still strong.

Is that Russian? My oh my.

Only 28 samples? Or do you mean 28 per day?

@mendip - interesting results. From which side did the North African & Nigerian ancestry come from, your maternal or paternal side?

Also, which testing company did you use? I guess it's a western company since the Asian parts aren't too detailed. I've seen results which showed various ethnic groups in China: Southern Han, Northern Han, Fujian, Uyghur, etc and for Vietnamese, it showed Viet Kinh, etc.

However, I've also seen Asian-Americans show DNA results stating that they're 98% Chinese and they were disappointed. They knew that they were Chinese but I guess they wanted to see the different ethnic groups which aren't provided by western-based companies. (Relatively few Asians take western based DNA tests so their databases aren't too detailed.)

I saw that your daughter doesn't have Mongolian DNA, so no Genghis Khan blood in her. However, one of his grandsons (Kublai Khan) became an emperor of China, so I'm not ruling that out - she may still be a GK descendant.

Interesting, for sure.

Originally Posted by katie23

which testing company did you use?

Yeah, info please.


We have a large world map framed and hung on the wall with different countries highlighted that would be cool to go to (hopefully inspiring the kid to travel the world for 2 or so years after completing her BA.)

Would be cool to get her DNA map printed out and hung next to it.

Originally Posted by Reg Dingle

Did you not get aborted by the family at age 28, just after the Oz scandal?

Probably around 24-ish. Win-Win.

Another family story came out of the DNA testing. A woman in Virginia was contacting my mother being a blood relative and wanted information on her parents. She turned out to be a daughter of my mother’s cousin, put up for adoption when she and her husband split up. No one in our family knew that they had given up a child.

Both the woman’s parents were long dead and her two half siblings (my second cousins) didn’t reply to her.

In my family’s photo collection were heaps of photos of her mother and grandmother. I packed them up and mailed them to her. She was delighted.

Which reminds me to say, all kinds of skeletons come out of the closet when you join one of those DNA testing sites. Neither of my parents ever imagined what they got. Beware!

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Is that Russian? My oh my.

only if you cant read a map

Mendip, you have some sandwog in you, did you get a twitch when you passed a camel on the beach, eer mista want a ride

Originally Posted by misskit

Neither of my parents ever imagined what they got. Beware!

you can't leae it there......did you come out light brown or with ginger hair?

Originally Posted by katie23

Also, which testing company did you use?

I saw that your daughter doesn't have Mongolian DNA, so no Genghis Khan blood in her.

I used MyHeritage.com.

I keep getting alerts about potential relatives... '9th cousin on my mother's side', etc, but I have never looked at that stuff.

Katie, I was surprised that the daughter has no Mongolian DNA because her mother certainly displays many traits you would associate with Genghis Khan. I guess I was lucky there.

Originally Posted by Edmond

Yeah, info please.

We have a large world map framed and hung on the wall with different countries highlighted that would be cool to go to

A good mate of mine freelanced in the oil industry during the 80s, before my time and before HSE took any enjoyment out of the job. At the end of an offshore trip he threw a dart into a map on the wall and just spent his leave time in whatever country the dart hit. He spent a decade living like that and has some amazing stories. I think he threw again if the dart hit the sea.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

only if you cant read a map

Mendip, you have some sandwog in you, did you get a twitch when you passed a camel on the beach, eer mista want a ride

What happens in a camel, stays in a camel...

Originally Posted by katie23

@mendip - interesting results. From which side did the North African & Nigerian ancestry come from, your maternal or paternal side?

That is a mystery Katie. There is a slightly 'swarthy Arab' look, but in a good way, in my mum's side of the family, from her maternal side. We always assumed it came from a Yemeni... there was a big Yemeni community in the north east associated with the ship building industry (of which my family were always a part).

Yet this was my mum's DNA results...



This would indicate that the North African and Nigerian ancestry came from my dad's side as I very much doubt it came from my wife's side.

My dad was pale skinned and blue-eyed, so it's all a mystery. I wish I'd got him tested before he died now. Maybe I should do myself and see what comes up?

@misskit - good onya for sending the pics to your 2nd cousin. I think like many adopted people, they want to know where they came from, who they look like, etc.

I've watched a vid on YT "I found my dad through DNA ancestry" (or similar). The guy, now in his 40s, grew up with a single mom (I think). His mom didn't want to tell him who his dad was, so he took a DNA test. He found a cousin through the test and through that person, narrowed the identity of his bio dad to 2 brothers. The brothers were similar in age to his mom. They attended the same high school & even lived on the same street. One of the brothers consented to a DNA test but it proved that he wasn't the dad. The other bro (his dad) didn't want to take a test.

(My guess is his mom probably had a relationship with the 2 brothers within a short time frame so she didn't know which was the dad, that's why she didn't want to tell her son.)

End of story: he was satisfied that he found his bio dad even if in the end, the dad didn't want anything to do with him.

Originally Posted by Mendip

I used MyHeritage.com.

I presume that's the one you used.

$45, 1500thb, shipped to Thailand. Really quite cheap. I guess one also has to register mail the sample to the States/Uk.

Will probably do that for the kid over Christmas. Cheers.

@mendip - thanks for the answers. Even if your dad had Scandi features (pale skin, blue eyes) it doesn't mean that he didn't have N African ancestry. A 5% percentage falls within the 6.25% range of DNA inherited from a great 2x grandparent. (So it's your great grandparent, and you should have around 12.5% N African ancestry)

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I've seen results of those with Spanish or Italian ancestry who have N African DNA. It's not surprising because of colonization and migration during the days of the Spanish empire and Italian kingdoms. But for British people, maybe one of your ancestors was a sailor or soldier & went to N Africa? If it's from your father's side, you may want to ask your paternal aunts or uncles if they know more.

In one episode of "Who do you think you are", actress Olivia Coleman discovered that she had a female ancestor from India (days of the British empire). She previously thought that her family was all white/ Euro.

There's another British actor (forgot name, he's older & has long-ish hair) who discovered that his ancestor served as a soldier in India. (can't remember if that ancestor procreated in India)

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Family histories & genealogy are (sometimes) fascinating.

Originally Posted by katie23

I've seen results of those with Spanish or Italian ancestry who have N African DNA. It's not surprising because of colonization and migration during the days of the Spanish empire and Italian kingdoms

not spicly true, others had a hand a hand in it, probably moor.

Originally Posted by katie23

@willy - re: data privacy issues, I guess it's up to the person if he/ she is willing to submit their DNA profile to different sites. <shrug>

I wouldn't.

5 biggest risks of sharing DNA with consumer genetic testing companies

Your DNA is a valuable asset, so why give it to ancestry websites for free? | Laura Spinney | The Guardian

I looked into my family's ancestry, and found not one, but TWO convicts ! That was going back to the early 1800s, when I had 64 ancestors.

And my grandfather's grandfather (all on the male line) lived to 100.

I recall reading years ago about how many English people have some North African ancestry, and I always though it was because a number of slaves were brought back to Britain. Anyone know if there were many ? If not, I guess the generations just multiplied the number of people.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

I wouldn't.

5 biggest risks of sharing DNA with consumer genetic testing companies

Your DNA is a valuable asset, so why give it to ancestry websites for free? | Laura Spinney | The Guardian

I haven't read those links yet. I did read recently about 23andMe being in trouble, the share price has dropped from USD322 to below USD5. No one knows what will happen to the personal data if the company goes into bankruptcy. With a current market cap of just over USD100M perhaps the FBI will buy it.

Originally Posted by Salsa dancer

I recall reading years ago about how many English people have some North African ancestry

more everyday now two tier Kier and his mates in the Home Office are busy handing out "Assylum" passports to economic migtrants

Originally Posted by BLD

back in my yoof I would shag anything female with a heart beat and pulse. Even the barbershop floor wasn't safe. Could be a few Lil blds out there on a few continents. I can rule out Sudan though. Couldn't even get a beer let alone a shag.

So if someone contacted you by email/ text message/ phone call saying that he/ she is your son/ daughter, would you reply? Would you be open to meeting them and/ or having a relationship with them? (as father-child)

^question is not only for BLD but for those who were "adventurous yoofs"

I'm just curious (no judgement). I've seen some vids where the parent was overjoyed to meet the child but there are also vids where the parent didn't want anything to do with the child. (but at least the child/ person got closure, knowing who the dad was)

^ I'd ask for my deposit back

Originally Posted by malmomike77

not spicly true, others had a hand a hand in it, probably moor.

I still include that under colonisation & migration. The moors migrated/ colonized Spain for many years. There were several crusades and then the Spaniards got their land back. (or rather it was the Catholic kingdoms, since the country of Spain didn't exist yet - they were the kingdoms of Castille, Leon, Granada, Navarre, etc).

As for those with Italian ancestry, they got the N African DNA probably due to migration, trade and maybe the Ottoman empire? (not sure exactly which countries comprised the Ottoman empire). Some southern Italians (and Greeks) have swarthy complexions and can pass as locals in N Africa or South Asia (especially if they have beards).

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Btw, Boris Johnson's grandpa (or great grandpa?) was Turkish, with the surname of Kemal/ Kamal. Boris' great 2x grandma changed the surname of the child to her surname (Johnson) when she brought him to England to live & be educated. Mr. Kemal (the dad of the kid whose surname was changed to Johnson) was a critic of the govt and became an enemy of Attaturk ("founder" of Turkey) so the child was brought to the UK by his English grandma for his safety.

So BoJo is mixed race, though he looks very north European/ scandi. (He looks very much like his dad, as we would say "carbon copy")

Originally Posted by malmomike77

^ I'd ask for my deposit back

Fairy nuff.