not spicly true, others had a hand a hand in it, probably moor.Quote:
Originally Posted by katie23
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not spicly true, others had a hand a hand in it, probably moor.Quote:
Originally Posted by katie23
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Originally Posted by katie23
I wouldn't.
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I looked into my family's ancestry, and found not one, but TWO convicts ! That was going back to the early 1800s, when I had 64 ancestors.
And my grandfather's grandfather (all on the male line) lived to 100.
I recall reading years ago about how many English people have some North African ancestry, and I always though it was because a number of slaves were brought back to Britain. Anyone know if there were many ? If not, I guess the generations just multiplied the number of people.
I haven't read those links yet. I did read recently about 23andMe being in trouble, the share price has dropped from USD322 to below USD5. No one knows what will happen to the personal data if the company goes into bankruptcy. With a current market cap of just over USD100M perhaps the FBI will buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrWilly
more everyday now two tier Kier and his mates in the Home Office are busy handing out "Assylum" passports to economic migtrantsQuote:
Originally Posted by Salsa dancer
back in my yoof I would shag anything female with a heart beat and pulse. Even the barbershop floor wasn't safe. Could be a few Lil blds out there on a few continents. I can rule out Sudan though. Couldn't even get a beer let alone a shag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe 90
So if someone contacted you by email/ text message/ phone call saying that he/ she is your son/ daughter, would you reply? Would you be open to meeting them and/ or having a relationship with them? (as father-child)Quote:
Originally Posted by BLD
^question is not only for BLD but for those who were "adventurous yoofs"
I'm just curious (no judgement). I've seen some vids where the parent was overjoyed to meet the child but there are also vids where the parent didn't want anything to do with the child. (but at least the child/ person got closure, knowing who the dad was)
^ I'd ask for my deposit back
I still include that under colonisation & migration. The moors migrated/ colonized Spain for many years. There were several crusades and then the Spaniards got their land back. (or rather it was the Catholic kingdoms, since the country of Spain didn't exist yet - they were the kingdoms of Castille, Leon, Granada, Navarre, etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by malmomike77
As for those with Italian ancestry, they got the N African DNA probably due to migration, trade and maybe the Ottoman empire? (not sure exactly which countries comprised the Ottoman empire). Some southern Italians (and Greeks) have swarthy complexions and can pass as locals in N Africa or South Asia (especially if they have beards).
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Btw, Boris Johnson's grandpa (or great grandpa?) was Turkish, with the surname of Kemal/ Kamal. Boris' great 2x grandma changed the surname of the child to her surname (Johnson) when she brought him to England to live & be educated. Mr. Kemal (the dad of the kid whose surname was changed to Johnson) was a critic of the govt and became an enemy of Attaturk ("founder" of Turkey) so the child was brought to the UK by his English grandma for his safety.
So BoJo is mixed race, though he looks very north European/ scandi. (He looks very much like his dad, as we would say "carbon copy") :)
Fairy nuff. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by malmomike77
he's a turk, all turks come from africa, he's an albino african. if he was in africa they'd burn him :)Quote:
Originally Posted by katie23
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Originally Posted by katie23
The problem is that any offsprings could have a claim on ones estate which is the main reason sperm donations have dropped off in recent years.
I personally would probably get to know any potential offspring out of curiosity but where do you draw the line?
When the tenth offspring has knocked on one's door then you probably will have regretted thise knee tremblers around the back of the night club back in the day.
I know a women who donated her eggs to get free fertility treatment about 10 years ago.
She will have the consequences of potentially a dozen offsprings knocking on her door in a decade all for the sake of a few grands fertility treatment.
Funny old world.:)
Well I think there's a lot we can learn from L&F and Eddie's fathers, like it's the kids who suffer and you can beat eggs but you'll never beat a good...
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If he lived in sub Saharan Africa, he would be chopped and his body parts sold. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by malmomike77
Your former PM is 1/8 Turkish and his surname should've been Kemal. Boris Kemal. Rishi Sunak would not have been the first "ethnic sounding" PM. :)
Though on another side of his family, he's related to George II or III (of England), so he's distantly related to King Charles and QE II. So I guess he wouldn't be burned or chopped. :)
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@Joe - what if the child didn't ask for a part of your estate but just asked to have a relationship with you? (example a few beers or lunch every now & then)
And btw, are illegitimate children entitled to the same portion of inheritance as legitimate ones? (if there was no will) I don't know the laws re: this in the UK, US, Aus or TH.
Yes I would. After watching those Blair and leah slog youtubes I really was quite moved by the emotion of it all. One guy "Glen " from.olongapo clearly looked amerasian and was already 60. He found his dad through that vlog the dad was a fit 80 year old Harley rider and had no idea he fathered Glen. He and his whole family stepped up to the plate and 100% acknowledged Glen. I thought that was fantasticQuote:
Originally Posted by katie23
find out you haven't got throat cancer and knocking out a relief wank in the cab.........................pricelessQuote:
Originally Posted by Reg Dingle
Thanks for the answer. I looked for the vid about Glen. He does look Amerasian/ mestizo. Very touching. I became teary eyed in some parts. I'm glad that his dad is still alive at 81 yrs old. The vlogger (Blair) said in the comments that Glen & his dad are emailing each other. Maybe by now, they've done video calls. It will be tough for them to see each other in person (finance-wise & logistics) but I hope they can find a way.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLD
This is the vid that BLD mentioned (Glen's story). It's in English.
http://youtu.be/YYxnUX1Y8Kw?si=nXNlinQgL6Asw8vI
I hope that by now, L&F has had a reunion with his bio mum & that it went well.
Exactly I wish l&f well it's a difficult subject for sure..
As for Blair and his lovely wife leah I know they have kids of there own and put a enormous amount of time into helping the amerasians and Filipinos from all walks of life. I would like to think they do it out of the goodness of there heart rather than you tube salary. Maybe a bit of both?
^I think it's a bit of both. Most ppl who do YouTube (and have monetized channels) are doing it for the money. Those DNA test kits aren't free (although some are donated by viewers, I think). It's a win-win situation if they're able to reunite families. They get the views (and $$$), the person finds his/ her family member(s).
I've just watched their recent vid. (abt the 68 year old Amerasian) Sadly, her bio dad passed away 2 years ago (at 89) but she was able to get pictures of her dad & was able to video call w/ her adopted brother. Her dad didn't have other bio kids but he adopted 2 children (boy & girl).
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I used to watch other reunification stories done by a TV program here (Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho). It's done by a TV network, so the DNA tests are paid for by the network. The narrations are in Tagalog.
However, there was a crossover/ collab program between Jessica Soho (the TV host) and "60 minutes Australia" . It was about a Filipino boy who was adopted by an Australian couple. The guy went to PH to search for his birth mom. He found her & later on, he accompanied his Aussie mum to meet his bio mum. Then later on, he sponsored his bio mum to visit him in Aus. There's also a vid of the story from 60 min Australia YT channel - don't know the title but it's about Joel/ search for birth mum. Happy endings all around.
Will find out just how much Scottish DNA I have in me soon enough, I suspect more than first thought, as I saw that it was free shipping if you buy two, so bought one for the kid and one for me maa. That's the ol' dear's Crissy present sor'id.
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Originally Posted by katie23
This thread has certainly picked up since I last clicked on it.
*Pushes to the front of the queue*
I drove up to meet my mum yesterday. Just under three hours. I had said I'd call when I was on my way. I din't know why, i didn't want to make the call.
We had an afternoon together. Then dinner. She enjoys a glass of wine :-). Our lives have had so many parallels. We both had significant successes in property and hospitality related businesses. We both have a work ethic driven by a fear of failure, we both lived in France. Her home is filled with seascape paintings; I live beside and overlooking the sea.
I'm home now. Exhausted, but overjoyed at the prospect of being a part of my birth mother's life for the limited time left to her. Mercifully, I believe she no longer has money or assets of any consequence. She carried me for nine months and she had the pain of delivering a 10lb + baby that she was forced to give away. I hope I can repay the favour as she deserves.
Oddly, she was also illegitimate. My grandfather (her father) was a Czech diplomat in London with a German mother. He became a post war minister in Czechoslovakia, apparently. So my DNA test with its E European and German connection now makes sense.
Interesting that the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
Glad it was a success for you!
In the interests of geographical accuracy, Yemen isn't in North Africa. :)
^^^ thanks for the update, L&F. I'm glad that you had a good meetup with your bio mum. Another happy ending (or new beginning).
Funny about leading "parallel lives". I re-watched the episodes re: Boris Johnson. His Turkish great grandpa (Ali Kemal) was a journalist turned politician. Boris had the same path.
There's also an Amerasian lady from the 'Leah & Blair slog' . She's now 50+ and her dad was a US serviceman stationed in PH. Unfortunately, her dad has passed but they were able to connect her with some of her paternal cousins. Two of her cousins are nurses in the US and Elizabeth (the Amerasian) is also a nurse (in PH).
My brother in the UK is in genealogy - he has managed to trace our family tree back several hundred years, and he has also had a DNA genealogy test to identify regions of our ancestors. Turns out that a major DNA line comes from Roumanian Jews. My father's ancestors lived in the Middle East for several generations (my father was born in Alexandria, Egypt). All interesting stuff (for me).
In the interests of geological accuracy, it was until 25 million years ago, prior to the rifting of the Red Sea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna
However, I take your point Nev.
The strange thing is, I'd always assumed that the swarthy good looks I inherited came from from my mum's side (my maternal Nan had a bit of a hooked nose) and a couple of cousins from that side look a bit 'Araby', but my mum's DNA indicated nothing of that type. The North African DNA in my daughter wouldn't have been a surprise if it also showed in my mum's profile, but it doesn't, so very strange.
This has got me thinking and I'm going to order a test for myself for Christmas.
Bloody geosQuote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
You could also ask your paternal aunts/ uncles or cousins to take a DNA test. (or gift them the test kit) If the N African ancestry also show up in their results, then it will confirm that it's from your dad's side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip;
From the genealogy vids that I've watched, 5% (in your daughter's result) is a significant number. If it's 1% or less it could be due to errors or trace/ unassigned which they just lumped into the nearest category. You may have had an Arab great grandparent if your result turns out with ~12.5% N African.
So glad it went well for you L&F.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostandfound
With you being from the West Country, shouldn't you have bought your sister a test kit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
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Harsh, but probably true.
Not to derail this wonderful thread there are as some indictae risks to DNA sharing
BBC only today describe a bankrupt Russian controlled data base
Your data has value and can be sold spied on not just you of course
Of course succesful family reunions and genealogy are the upsides.
However we should be paying them not us paying to share our valubale ancestral heritage
In an era when euthanasia , abortion are hot topics it is not hard to see how the DNA could be misused for profiling "undesireables" thank god Mao,Mengele and Pol Pot didn't have such tools!
Caveat Emptor, I only know my lot for about 4000 to a suugested v small haplographic group in the Pyrenees with bits of Bohemian Italian Saxon Scots Irish and French according to my aunt who spent a lot of time and money on such research, the main link being the Black Irish Basque male lineage arriving in 1580s in Connemara with the Ragusa flotilla out of Dubrovnik.
However older parish and church records in UK and Ireland use patronymics so all the brides family names are hidden unless you have marriage and birth certs, many of these were destroyed in 1919 accident.
One interesting item I found recently I lived as a student very close to one of my grandfathers birth house,and walked past that very house for years without ever knowing.
Anyway congrats to Lostandfound and a very generous attitude to his mum and sharing here.
As 23andMe Struggles, Concerns Surface About Its Genetic Data - The New York Times
Me too. An interesting episode in your life, L&F, that thankfully has turned out well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shutree
Seeing Mendy put up his daughters DNA made me think. About 2 years ago my daughter K had it done. Since she is a twin her sister would be the same. Found it and was surprised at the lack of Thai genes.
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Chitty - this is the adjective you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrWilly
'Harsh but fair' makes no sense whatsoever.
Just sayin'. :D
Here you go cy, some kindred spirits.
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