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    Your handy cut out and keep guide to paying taxes in Thailand

    From the Revenue Department website:

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    So there are some clarifications there, the most notable of which affects digital gonads. Assuming you're Tax Resident of course.

    If you earn money paid overseas for work done in Thailand it is taxable in Thailand.

    And if you've paid tax on foreign income remitted here, it will be credited against your tax dues in Thailand. But it looks like you will need paperwork.
    The next post may be brought to you by my little bitch Spamdreth

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    Any info on foreigners (me) who own Thai shares but no longer live in Thailand?

    I pay tax on the dividends, 10% from memory.

    Thanks in Advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Any info on foreigners (me) who own Thai shares but no longer live in Thailand?

    I pay tax on the dividends, 10% from memory.

    Thanks in Advance
    Not a scooby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post

    And if you've paid tax on foreign income remitted here, it will be credited against your tax dues in Thailand. But it looks like you will need paperwork.
    And then the complications come when the tax year is different period, ie the Australian tax year starts July 1, halfway through the Thai tax year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenot View Post
    And then the complications come when the tax year is different period, ie the Australian tax year starts July 1, halfway through the Thai tax year.
    Yes I can see being a head scratcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenot View Post
    And then the complications come when the tax year is different period, ie the Australian tax year starts July 1, halfway through the Thai tax year.
    The UK is April. This is going to be fun at the Tax Office.

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    AFAIK my dad was seriously good at 4 things.

    Rock climbing. Mountain biking. Impregnating many, many young women. Tax avoidance.


    Time to give the ol' lad a bell. I think he's in Poland.

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    Yeah, that's pointless 'fonzie' bollox as per.

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    Talking of bollix....

    If the tax man does come knocking, you could always hide out at Mendy's.

    He's looking for a human version of Yogi...

    Someone who's a bit of a wrong un, drinks a load of water, is not too kind on the eye, doesn't wear any underpants, enjoys the company of voyeurs and likes noodling and his bollocks photographed regularly.

    That place on his table is virtually yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    If you earn money paid overseas for work done in Thailand it is taxable in Thailand.
    Yep. I pay Thai taxes and submit end of year Tax returns here. I also pay into the Thai social security system but the good news is, that once I stop working, I can get all that SS back that was contributed over the time I worked. Will not be a lot but enough for the wife and I to go on a trip somewhere for a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg Dingle View Post
    Talking of bollix....

    If the tax man does come knocking, you could always hide out at Mendy's.

    He's looking for a human version of Yogi...

    Someone who's a bit of a wrong un, drinks a load of water, is not too kind on the eye, doesn't wear any underpants, enjoys the company of voyeurs and likes noodling and his bollocks photographed regularly.

    That place on his table is virtually yours.
    Is there a waiting list? Bet people are lined up outside his gate.

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    ^^^^ I wish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reg Dingle View Post
    That place on his table is virtually yours.
    Have slept in worse places. I'm sure you have too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    I pay Thai taxes and submit end of year Tax returns here. I also pay into the Thai social security system but the good news is, that once I stop working, I can get all that SS back that was contributed over the time I worked
    When you finish working register to stay in the SSO within 6 months, they'll deduct less than 500thb per month from your selected bank account and you have the health insurance for life. Just in case your private health insurance finds a loophole if/when needed. The window to register is 6 months from the date of termination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    AFAIK my dad was seriously good at 4 things.

    Rock climbing. Mountain biking. Impregnating many, many young women. Tax avoidance.


    Time to give the ol' lad a bell. I think he's in Poland.
    The only way you're going to avoid it now is sticking it under the mattress.

    With the CRS in action, they can see what you've got in your accounts here and overseas, and they know what your immigration status is.

    I don't think the old man will be much help.


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    They'll probably bung in onto the immigration requirements for annual retirement/family extensions. That a cert from the Thai tax office must also be submitted along with the bank docs.


    #fun.times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    They'll probably bung in onto the immigration requirements for annual retirement/family extensions. That a cert from the Thai tax office must also be submitted along with the bank docs.


    #fun.times.
    Yes, they'll know who's here 180+ days. No hiding from that.


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    I don't mind paying, but foresee endless visits, accountants, different tax year start date embassy tax letters. Apostilles.
    Waiting to see, maybe cheaper let them calculate and pay late fines than running around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    I don't mind paying, but foresee endless visits,
    Yeah...this could end up being lot more visits depending on how your IO handles it. I never get wound up on the hype. I just cross the bridge when I get there. Some lose their minds and damn near have coronaries before its ever launched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Yeah...this could end up being lot more visits depending on how your IO handles it. I never get wound up on the hype. I just cross the bridge when I get there. Some lose their minds and damn near have coronaries before its ever launched.
    Tax Advisers are having a fucking field day winding people up - it's a great way to generate business.

    I think for most it's a wait and see exercise.

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    Agents are going to become a lot more popular.


    I'm not cheap, but am only a PM away.

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    I actually went to the RD and asked. They don't ask for any ID or anything.

    You need your passport and copy of lease agreement in Thai to get a TIN.

    Then they said you can go to the website to submit your taxes - which is in Thai but translates well according to them.

    E-FILING

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    I found this in English from RD but the rest of the site seems thai only or have I missed something.

    หน้าหลัก | กรมสรรพากร : ยื่นแบบผ่านอินเทอร์เน็ต

    Is the Foreigner ID issued for teh Mor Prom Covid app any use?

    If any members preferably up ideally C Saen, Mae Sai or C Rai even C mai find an agent capable of filing for me be most interested , send a pm please. Not necessary agent speaks English as I have acouple of anglophone female wranglers just a fish supper away.

    Combo of memory , eye sight and aversion to bureaucracy but not paying means I'd sooner pay someone than queue up in hot offices only to have to get endless more copies as was my experience until I improved/upgraded for free my relationship with new officers at the only bit of the state I use on my patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    I found this in English from RD but the rest of the site seems thai only or have I missed something.

    หน้าหลัก | กรมสรรพากร : ยื่นแบบผ่านอินเทอร์เน็
    Is the Foreigner ID issued for teh Mor Prom Covid app any use?
    I doubt it, it's fuck all use anywhere else.

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    I cannot envisage how uk income which is taxed, say private pension income could ever yield a tax obligation under double taxation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    I cannot envisage how uk income which is taxed, say private pension income could ever yield a tax obligation under double taxation.
    Firstly the implication is that you need evidence to show it's been taxed.

    Secondly, the implication above is that you get credit for tax paid up to a maximum of 100% of your Thai tax liability (if any).

    So if you're taxed on something at 5% and the Tax Liability in Thailand is 7%, you may be expected to pay the difference.

    But that's all way down the line.

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