Finding Things Tough?!

**Seekingasylum** · 22-03-2023, 06:10 PM

Tax’s premise is flawed. If the weak, stupid and redundant do not prosper and survival is down to those who are the fittest then how does he account for the Welsh who are still with us.

Modern society can only function if it embraces enlightened capitalism ensuring all are engaged according to their need. Profit for its own sake does not engender anything other than more profit for its own sake and hence we have an imbalance hindering development.

At a cool estimate over $32 trillion is squirrelled away in tax shelters.

Decimation of all billionaires is the only way to concentrate their minds away from their greed.

Their stupidity is the worst. How many fucking yachts, houses and private islands do you need.

**Edmond** · 22-03-2023, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

I own my home and several others

Nice.

Did you buy your extra several properties with the whole bitcoins you were buying at $10 a decade ago, or are you still holding onto them?

**david44** · 22-03-2023, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Welsh who are still with us

You have no idea how parochial that apears equal to a pi monger? I think knot

Revolutionary Balls

The Carmarthen-based inventor and ironmaster Philip Vaughan patented the first design for a ball bearing in 1794. His design placed iron balls between the wheel and the axle of a carriage, allowing the carriage wheels to rotate freely by reducing friction. His 18th-century design is fundamentally unchanged in all rotating machines and vehicles today.

1557 – The equals sign

Robert Recorde (1512-1558) led a busy, learned life. Born in Tenby, he attended Oxford and Cambridge universities, and became both physician to Edward VI and controller of the Royal Mint. His chief contribution to mathematics, however, was inventing the equals sign (=), which he used in his 1557 book The Whetstone of Witte: ‘to avoid the tedious repetition of these words – is equal to – I will set a pair of parallels lines of one length, because no two things can be more equal.’

1706 – Pi

The Anglesey-born mathematician William Jones (1675-1749) didn’t invent pi, the numerical value of the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter, but he was the first to use the, now universally-recognised, Greek symbol ‘π’ to represent it (most likely because it is the first letter of the Greek word περίμετρος – 'perimeter').

Perhaps you have never had teh pleasure of a Lake Vrynwy virgin, a real Welsh rarebit

I will leave the Welsh comrades to disabuse you of your evident ignorance like a Panic Meat Preacher on the way to Charlotte's Church

In the future, everyone may drive cars powered by hydrogen fuel cells – thanks to Sir William Grove (1811-1896). The Swansea-born lawyer-turned-scientist invented the fuel cell in 1842, which combined hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity. As a lecturer at the London Institution, Grove also demonstrated how electric current could be used to create light, a concept that would be perfected by Thomas Edison with his light bulb three decades later

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When the small community of Newtown in mid-Wales was connected to the UK railway network in the mid-19th century, one local draper, Sir Pryce Jones (1834-1920), saw an opportunity to expand his customer base. By using trains to deliver his products, Jones pioneered the world’s first major mail-order business, eventually supplying garments to customers as far afield as America and Australia, as well as to a number of famous clients, including Florence Nightingale and Queen Victoria.

My pal Mike Hunt assures me your trumpet too

Debate continues about whether David Edward Hughes (1831-1900) was born near Corwen, North Wales, or in London (though records show his father was a bootmaker from Bala in Gwynedd). But what is certain is the scientist invented the first working radio communication system, as well as the first microphone, a breakthrough that paved the way for the emergence of the telephone industry in the 20th century. The Royal Society’s Hughes Medal, an annual award given to pioneering scientists, is named in his honour

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Morris and Walter Davies opened an ironmongery shop in Llanelli’s Stepney Street in 1895. Early motor cars carried no spare tyres, so Morris Davies invented a spokeless wheel rim fitted with an inflatable tyre. By 1909 all London taxis carried the device, and their invention spread throughout the world. Even today, a spare wheel is commonly called a ‘Stepney’ in many countries.

The son of a Swansea steelworker, Edward ‘Taffy’ Bowen (1911-1991) was a key figure in the development of radar. Bowen was a member of the team tasked with creating a radar system that could be installed onto aircrafts, allowing the crew to detect not only other planes but also hard-to-find targets like submarines for the first time – an innovation that greatly aided the allies during WWII. After the war, he became a pioneer of radio astronomy.

Treorchy-born computer scientist Donald Davies (1924-2000) worked with Alan Turing on early British computers, but his 1965 breakthrough in ‘packet switching’ – dividing computer messages into packets that are routed independently across a network – is one of the key founding principles of the internet

If they wrote as much poetry as the Irish these Welsh movers and shakerswould be prolix

and near Mintybackh-Pantlulu in the veil of Glamorgan is in Cynon Taff is Llantrisant the

HOLE WITH THE MINT

In conclusion thanks for revealing a subtle blend of ignorance and clpset racism, eschew banger sand stick to curds and whey too much info

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**panama hat** · 23-03-2023, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

For the human race is to survive and become stronger, the weak and the stupid must be eliminated

Originally Posted by bsnub

So why are you still alive?

**bsnub** · 23-03-2023, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by Edmond

Did you buy your extra several properties with the whole bitcoins you were buying at $10 a decade ago, or are you still holding onto them?

I sold almost all the bitcoin many years ago, sadly. I missed the big ride to the moon, but I did make a fair bit, but far less than I would have if I held. In regard to the properties I own, I only bought my own home and I did so almost twenty years ago, the others I inherited from my grandfather.

Nice attempt at a troll, though.

**Buckaroo Banzai** · 23-03-2023, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

Point taken. Note, found this on Farce book. Author unknown.

I get the point the article tried to make and I agree with it.
The good old days were not all that good!
I have a bit of a problem with the examples it used to make the point. All the things it mentioned, did happen. but it did not happen to all people . in all places.
There were plenty of things happening back then, such as poor nutrition, health care, social strictures, infustracture, etc,
that made the good old days not so good.
I remember reading an article about the good old days that centered on life in NYC. No central heat.One bathroom for everyone on a floor. Transportation and delivery by horse drawn carriedle, streets covered by horse manure that dried up in the summer and blew in the wind for everyone to inhale. etc.
Nonetheless, your OP was a good article, that I enjoyed reading. Thank you for sharing it.

**DrWilly** · 23-03-2023, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

I am a survivor bsnub, from a long line of those who have survived against all the odds. Unlike you and your ilk, marinated in permanent victimhood, always on the lookout for someone, some organisation, something to blame for your pitiful predicament as you exist from handout to handout, I look out for myself and my family. I dont go begging for handouts, I use my nous to survive.

Most of the poor in your country and mine are poor for a reason, and that reason is laziness coupled with a helping of stupidity and a side of entitlement.

Born of unfit parents and condemned to a life of pain and poverty. Its not fair, but its life. Survival of the fittest bsnub. Thats what it is all about, always has been and always will.

Tell me again you you were forced to return home to miserable, cold Britain then?

**MarilynMonroe** · 24-03-2023, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by taxexile

Most of the poor in your country and mine are poor for a reason, and that reason is laziness coupled with a helping of stupidity and a side of entitlement.

Born of unfit parents and condemned to a life of pain and poverty. Its not fair, but its life. Survival of the fittest bsnub. Thats what it is all about, always has been and always will.

I don't really agree with this at all. Many are poor because of lack of opportunity or circumstance, and there have been many people that aren't the smartest who have risen above it all and are successful due to having a helping hand and hard work. There are people that don't come from much, but tend to do well because of becoming resilient and harboring on despite it all.

**cyrille** · 24-03-2023, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

There are people that don't come from much, but tend to do well because of becoming resilient and harboring on despite it all.

Eh?

http://https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harbor

**MarilynMonroe** · 24-03-2023, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Norton

Think of everyone on the planet born in 1900. How do you survive all of that? A kid in 1985 didn’t think their 85-year-old grandparent understood how hard school was. Yet those grandparents (and now great grandparents) survived through everything listed above.

Perspective is an amazing art. Let’s try and keep things in perspective. Let’s be smart, help each other out, and we will get through all of this. In the history of the world, there has never been a storm that lasted. This too shall pass.

It is amazing how much our ancestors went through.
I find it hard to compare all of that to how much things have changed over the years. Life can be hard for some these days for different reasons.

It seems like although life was hard, things seemed so much more simple back then.
Then with the dawn of technology and social media, there are definitely pros and cons. Then you have inflation and cost of living that is through the roof for many. Salaries aren't rising enough to keep up with the cost of living, so people are working two jobs and doing things to just get by (I'm talking mostly in North America).

**MarilynMonroe** · 24-03-2023, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Eh?

carrying on...

A synonym
93 Synonyms & Antonyms of HARBORING | Merriam-Webster Thesaurus

**cyrille** · 24-03-2023, 11:55 AM

Yes, but no.

**Buckaroo Banzai** · 24-03-2023, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

It seems like although life was hard, things seemed so much more simple back then.

ignorance is bliss
The question was asked during an interview on YouTube, "Why are kids so stresses now days"
The answer of the interviewee whose name I dont remember to give credit said.
in the past if a alligator ate a golf player in Florida, you would never hear it. chances are that most people in Florida would never hear it. Now days it will be on YouTube in all it's gory glory with closeups of the incident.
In addition people post unrealistic pictures of their lives on social media. You take a picture of a beautiful sunset out your window in the west but you never post a picture if the fish cannery a few yards to the east. Pictures of all the wonderful meals you cook, but none of the ones you burned.
There is a firehose of information constantly in your face with some real problems that in the past you would have never been aware , and a lot of not alway insincere but nonetheless unrealistic representation of life that makes people stressed about the treats and dissatisfied with their lives.

I hope my long explanation explained more than it confused

**MarilynMonroe** · 24-03-2023, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Yes, but no.

I have heard it said before.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

ignorance is bliss
The question was asked during an interview on YouTube, "Why are kids so stresses now days"
The answer of the interviewee whose name I dont remember to give credit said.
in the past if a alligator ate a golf player in Florida, you would never hear it. chances are that most people in Florida would never hear it. Now days it will be on YouTube in all it's gory glory with closeups of the incident.
In addition people post unrealistic pictures of their lives on social media. You take a picture of a beautiful sunset out your window in the west but you never post a picture if the fish cannery a few yards to the east. Pictures of all the wonderful meals you cook, but none of the ones you burned.
There is a firehose of information constantly in your face with some real problems that in the past you would have never been aware , and a lot of not alway insincere but nonetheless unrealistic representation of life that makes people stressed about the treats and dissatisfied with their lives.

I am confused .. lol.

My grandparents went through a lot, but they had seven kids and always seemed to have enough somehow to survive. My grandpa worked in the credit union all his life and my grandmother raised her kids and never learned how to read (even up to her death). Back in those days, no one worried about social media and the kids played outside all the time not like today where you see kids playing on the computer/phone all day. That is what I meant by things seems more simple back then.

**taxexile** · 24-03-2023, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

I don't really agree with this at all. Many are poor because of lack of opportunity or circumstance, and there have been many people that aren't the smartest who have risen above it all and are successful due to having a helping hand and hard work. There are people that don't come from much, but tend to do well because of becoming resilient and harboring on despite it all.

They get it from their parents, or in most cases, "parent".
Good parenting is the best helping hand, poor parenting is a millstone around the neck, and very hard to shake off. Government "help" i.e. interference, often results in a sense of victimhood and resentment.

As I said, life is not fair. You dont need to be intellectually smart to be successful in life, success can mean having a stable family and a good moral compass.

**cyrille** · 24-03-2023, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

success can mean having a stable family and a good moral compass.

taxexile - the forum embodiment of Victorian values.

**MarilynMonroe** · 24-03-2023, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by taxexile

They get it from their parents, or in most cases, "parent".
Good parenting is the best helping hand, poor parenting is a millstone around the neck

Get what from their parents? Good parenting is important for sure, yet there are still kids who grow up with poor parenting or one parent or divorced parents and still do well in life. I had a tough childhood raised by my mother only and grew up pretty well. Some kids who go through things, develop resiliency and do well despite their upbringing.
Kids need to be taught that life is tough and that they should be taught how to be kind and work hard even if they aren't always taught that at home.

**Buckaroo Banzai** · 24-03-2023, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe

I have heard it said before.

That is what I meant by things seems more simple back then.

I get what you mean and I don't disagree with the basic premise .
Things were certainly simple then, in fact things are probably simpler now than it will be in a hundred years from now,
But simpler is not always better, better being a subjective term, subject to the metrics of what is better.

was there less pedofilia back then ? or was it that we did not know about it?
Does not knowing makes you more content. "Ignorance is bliss" but does it make you safer?
Is socializing with your own tribe in the street where you played, better than socializing and playing on line with a diverse group around the world better.
I don't know. Perhaps better for some things and worst for others. The balance is arguable IMO.

**MarilynMonroe** · 24-03-2023, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai

But simpler is not always better, better being a subjective term, subject to the metrics of what is better.

was there less pedofilia back then ? or was it that we did not know about it?
Does not knowing makes you more content. "Ignorance is bliss" but does it make you safer?
Is socializing with your own tribe in the street where you played, better than socializing and playing on line with a diverse group around the world better.
I don't know. Perhaps better for some things and worst for others. The balance is arguable IMO.

I totally agree, and as I said it is hard to compare the past to now as things are so different in some respects.
It is hard for me or many of us to imagine what it would be like for someone born in 1900, and vice versa. I know that it is hard for some older people to even adapt to the technological changes in the world today (I had to teach my mom how to use a computer and smart phone

Technology and even agriculture has brought so many changes both good and bad for our health, minds and spirits.

**misskit** · 24-03-2023, 01:08 PM

A photo of my great grandparents taken around 1910.

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They were a pitifully poor couple. He was from a Cracker family and she married him in spite of her family’s wishes. My grandmother always told me her father was cockeyed Baptist preacher who died when she was very young.

I love this photo. It always makes me laugh. My ancestors.

**misskit** · 24-03-2023, 01:25 PM

I have a mean streak. Showing this to friends is fun. They never know how to react.

**Shutree** · 24-03-2023, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

He was from a Cracker family

I haven't heard that term before. Is it regional or religious or something else?

**Norton** · 24-03-2023, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Shutree

I haven't heard that term before. Is it regional or religious or something else?

Regional derogatory term for poor white folks.
Used mainly in Southern US.

**MarilynMonroe** · 24-03-2023, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by misskit

A photo of my great grandparents taken around 1910.

Haha, I love these old photos! Such a keepsake.

I have a black and white photo of my grandparents standing on the platform of a train in 1919 I believe. They were going on their honeymoon.
I'll see if I can find it.

**misskit** · 24-03-2023, 01:46 PM

Crackers were white people who owned no land and didn’t like to work. They were squatters and ruffians.

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