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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    Peace!
    not on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    I'm not surprised that @harry is against the test. He has his reasons,......
    because Bellend would reinforce what most already know about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    As the saying goes: "a consultant is someone who is there to look at your watch and tell you what time it is".
    I always hated consultants. IMHO they were brought in so the management team didn't have to do the training. Most were washed up or laid off employees looking to make a buck.

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    some years ago, our company had this team-building seminar thingy wherein they hired external people to conduct/ facilitate the activity for us.
    Lol, the company who purchased my one-man-band company for a small fortune did the same thing >> shipping me and all the staff and directors off to a smart country retreat for team-building and MBTI tests.

    Unfortunately I missed those tests because I got pissed as a fart the evening before and fell out of bed the next day around midday, staggering into the meeting hall looking hungover and blearly-eyed. I don't think the company boss was too happy!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    Thanks to those who participated and wrote their types. As I've said before, I'm not here to debate on the pros & cons of the Myers-Briggs personality typing. This thread is in the lounge and it's just for fun.

    @stumpy - yeah, whether you're a pleb, mid-level or high executive, if you're required by HR to do those workshops/ team-building activities, then you do them. As I've said previously, I (as a newbie) was once grouped with one of the big bosses - even he couldn't escape from the dictates of HR. (and that's why HR gets outsiders/ consultants to do these workshops so that the bigwigs can't moan. Lol.)

    Also, I'm not surprised that @harry is against the test. He has his reasons, it is what it is, everyone has free will.

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    I didn't say I was against it. I just said it's meaningless.

    Like horoscopes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    I always hated consultants. IMHO they were brought in so the management team didn't have to do the training. Most were washed up or laid off employees looking to make a buck.
    Certainly in the sandpit they're brought in so that Arabs don't have to make decisions that might go wrong.

    If things went pear-shaped they would always blame the consultant.

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    MBTI tests don't have a lot of credibility - as mentioned its free and used by lazy HR people - cos most of them have no idea about people, teams and business.
    (I wish hr could just go back to being payroll and personnel - get my pay right and on time and make sure my holiday leave is correct).

    MBTI are easy to manipulate - you can pretty much work out what to answer to get the type you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukan Kizmiaz View Post
    MBTI tests don't have a lot of credibility - as mentioned its free and used by lazy HR people - cos most of them have no idea about people, teams and business.
    (I wish hr could just go back to being payroll and personnel - get my pay right and on time and make sure my holiday leave is correct).

    MBTI are easy to manipulate - you can pretty much work out what to answer to get the type you want.
    After i graduated early 90s I worked in various NZ government departments, this was perhaps a 'peak for Myers-Briggs and there was a real obsession with it as if results could somehow change their world.

    Someone else mentioned horoscopes, and imho many of these assessments, psychometrics, are not far removed from the debate on whether a Taurus will get on with a Pisces, especially if one were born in the Chinese year of the Rat and the other the year of the Bull.

    But some still have faith in psychometrics and from my 'testing' when I went back for short contract work for NZ's Parliamentary Service in 2021 the hiring manager exclaimed my results were perfect as I was a 'warm humanitarian'. This may well be at odds with how friends view me. Better: I don't like people.

    As one of the original
    lazy HR people
    I've never been a fan - and have been dismayed/against employers who have used psychometrics, especially when it is used as their pre-interview screening process. Again, may as well ask their star sign.

    For the record, my Myers-Briggs
    Personality type: Mediator (INFP-T)
    Traits: Introverted 79%, Intuitive 51%, Feeling 51%, Prospecting 57%, Turbulent 68%
    Role: Diplomat
    Strategy: Constant Improvement

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    ^interesting results. Prawnograph is also an INFP but we have very different numbers.

    I can't remember the exact numbers, but for me it was: Introversion ~80%, Intuitive ~80%, Feeling ~85/, Prospecting ~65%, Assertive ~60%.

    So @prawn and I are both "mediators" but for me, the feeling and intuitive aspects are more pronounced (and yes, for myself I agree that I am very F & N).

    The Thinking vs Feeling functions refer to how we make decisions:

    For thinkers: what are the problems to be solved, how do we get to the goal

    For feelers: how are things valued (value judgement)

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    The Assertive vs Turbulent function refers to neuroticism & response to stressful situations whether highly affected (T) or lowly affected (A).

    +++++

    Whether one believes in Myers-Briggs, the Enneagram or the big 5, it's up to you. As I've said, this thread is just for fun.

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    I found it also interesting when someone compared songs from the Beatles: those written by Paul McCartney (a sensor) vs John Lennon (an intuitive), based on their lyrics.

    Sensing vs Intuition - means of perception, how we view the world

    Sensor: likes specifics, details, what you can sense (see, smell, touch, etc)

    Intuitive - likes generalities, overviews, metaphors, abstract concepts, intuition is relied upon

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    Sensing vs Intuition (Paul vs John of Beatles)

    Penny Lane (by Paul McCartney)

    Penny Lane is in my ears and in my eyes
    Wet beneath the blue suburban skies
    I sit and meanwhile back in

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    Strawberry Fields (by John Lennon)

    Let me take you down
    'Cause I'm going to strawberry fields
    Nothing is real
    And nothing to get hung about
    Strawberry fields forever.

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    This describes me...apparently, lol.

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    A is for "amazing," right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Most were washed up or laid off employees looking to make a buck.
    Gives mgt a break and laid-off and washed up employees gotta eat too, lol.

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    I have recently written some poems (tried to see if I could still do it) and now I've analyzed them to see if they're more of sensing or intuition, thinking vs feeling.

    And yeah, even in my poems the words came out as more of intuition (metaphors) and feelings. Whether it was in English or Tagalog (my native tongue), the N & F functions came out. (Interesting too that I found it easier to write poems in English than in Tagalog.)

    Now, if I could compose tunes, maybe I could be like Taylor Swift or Ed Sheeran & make money from songs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Gives mgt a break and laid-off and washed up employees gotta eat too, lol.
    Lol. Yeah, I agree that they gotta eat too. I've also received some good insights from some of those workshops (but yeah, some were just bleh & gobbledy-gook).

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    I have been obliged to attend many of these type of seminars and courses, both in the military and civilian world.
    In my opinion, it provides a snapshot in time, based on your experiences up to that point.

    I was always challenged by being given more responsibility for people and higher value equipment to get the job done.

    In both military and civilian life, I was always grateful for good quality engineers. I am much better with people than equipment.

    It all comes down to your decision making. Let others believe they have the answers, and one of them will always produce for you, people or equipment. My decisions are based on the sum of my experiences and the trust invested in others.

    I don’t mind who gets the credit for it. It’s the result that counts. Sometimes you have to do it yourself and accept the good or bad consequences of your decision or actions. We learn from success and from mistakes, provided you are happy to own both!
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    The most interesting and thought provoking post for some time. Cheers Katie.

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    I am an ISFP-A, an adventurer! Which is probably less interesting than it sounds.

    Apparently I am an introvert and quite observant.

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    Storekeeper, Norton, and I all have the exact string of letters. Was anyone else’s the same?

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    I am whatever you want me to be

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