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    Good analysis

    The problem is differentials one jump up the ladder

    At the bottom of the heap the non productive permanently on state assistances of varying kinds.

    Then those who work for sub optimal pay and conditions

    Think Zero hour , Uber , Deliveroo the gig economy

    Then we have the permanent posts but wit no pensions holidays entitlements often short renewable contracts to avoid such costs

    Then have permanent but low paid who will be loyal as any pension, benefits , childcare, oncome security is better than nine.

    While this thread looks at UK , In USA health benefits are a major anchor

    Some are in tied housing in hotel domestic agricultural and pub work where no job means no home.

    Next tier are those with skills who have enough leverage to strike with skills that require training and or diplomas to be insure like Teachers Pilots, Train drivers Drs or Truckers

    The longer and higher the entry bar usually the better package .

    The old adage the guy cycling to work in the rain is not a dentist
    “What contemptible scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch?”

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Good analysis

    The problem is differentials one jump up the ladder

    At the bottom of the heap the non productive permanently on state assistances of varying kinds.

    Then those who work for sub optimal pay and conditions

    Think Zero hour , Uber , Deliveroo the gig economy

    Then we have the permanent posts but wit no pensions holidays entitlements often short renewable contracts to avoid such costs

    Then have permanent but low paid who will be loyal as any pension, benefits , childcare, oncome security is better than nine.

    While this thread looks at UK , In USA health benefits are a major anchor

    Some are in tied housing in hotel domestic agricultural and pub work where no job means no home.

    Next tier are those with skills who have enough leverage to strike with skills that require training and or diplomas to be insure like Teachers Pilots, Train drivers Drs or Truckers

    The longer and higher the entry bar usually the better package .

    The old adage the guy cycling to work in the rain is not a dentist
    Except the guy cycling to work has a job, and owns a bicycle? Good job he’s not a coal miner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    The old adage the guy cycling to work in the rain is not a dentist
    he is if he's in the ULEZ in London

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Except the guy cycling to work has a job, and owns a bicycle? Good job he’s not a coal miner!
    As most know I am unfamiliar with reality but while the City of London has a Gold Mines Swops, CDO's and similar derivatives I was unaware of any remaining English coal mine, I had assumed the folks with darkened faces on the tube were Goths, immigrunts or Justin Trudeau?

    As to your cycling expertise I defer, but humbly suggest as in many relationships it is also vital who has the first pump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    coal mine
    there was at least three i knew of in Brixton in the mid 80s

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    Since the success of Last Tango in Copenhagen luxury Danish Lube prices have soared aided by influencer HelgeSilkebum saying it spread so easily

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    Two people were charged for stealing milk this week - as supermarkets lock up everyday essentials in an attempt to deter shoplifters amid the cost-of-living crisis.
    Police in Scotland announced they had arrested two people stealing around 30 bottles of milk.
    Glasgow North Police tweeted: 'Two persons have been charged and will be reported to the procurator fiscal for numerous thefts of milk and other crimes of dishonesty in the Milton area.'
    Security tags are now being found on items such as milk, cheese and eggs, as their prices have risen by 27 per cent compared to last year.
    Tesco shoppers reported that security tags have been fixed to milk, though the retailer later said this was a mistake, and tags have been seen on blocks of Aldi cheddar this year.
    This comes after the price of luxury butter brand Lurpak began to soar beyond £7, leading to Asda putting security measures in place over the summer.
    The latest data shows that shoplifting increased by 18 per cent in the year to the end of June compared with the previous 12-month period, according to the Office for National Statistics.
    Grocery price inflation also hit a record 14.7 per cent last month, adding an extra £682 to the average annual shopping bill.
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    Glasgow North Police posted this image and said two people have been arrested on suspicion of 'numerous thefts of milk and other crimes of dishonesty

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    Supermarkets across the UK have been cracking down on theft of dairy products as shoplifting rose by 18 per cent over the summer compared with the previous 12-month period (Packs of butter with security tags earlier this year)




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    who buys that overpriced Dutch shite? apart from one on my sisters

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    Not biting

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    ^ damn

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    who buys that overpriced Dutch shite? apart from one on my sisters
    Obviously a conservative lover, the finest lube in the world , think pussy with danish bacon beurre blanc, you'll never go back to ladyboys and Flora

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    First half like watching butter clarify, Ghee Whizz

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    Having a good night, old friend ?

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    Listening to the commentators really reminds me of the Doghouse

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    i did a lady from the Daneland before and after she trekked the Everest BC, i considered at the time i'd done that too.

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    at no point did she mention Lurpak

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post


    Having a good night, old friend ?
    Yeah, I think david is enjoying himself for me and you.

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    Lurpack spreadable is about GBP5.50 here in Bali. It’s one of the few luxuries I allow myself. I spend too much on deliveries of food, but that’s more about avoiding humanity in its less presentable format. (Mostly pink skinned tourists with no dress sense).

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    There's always Norpak at half the price from Aldi if you ever come back to the UK.
    Tastes the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    i did a lady from the Daneland before and after she trekked the Everest BC, i considered at the time i'd done that too.
    at no point did she mention Lurpak
    Twin Peeky eh

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    I left the UK 20 years ago. I did a quick check on accommodation rental prices, should I be forced for whatever reason to return to ol' Blighty. According to rightmove.co.uk, the only accommodation that I can actually afford would be a lock-up garage. Better to stay renting my 208 GBP cabin in the woods on Koh Phangan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Do you have rough sleepers and food banks under the long white shroud?
    Rough sleeprs possibly not that many as motels are full of welfare recipients and the governments can't build houses fast enough to accommodate the massive want for social housing.
    This place is welfare gone mad, far beyond what is helpful . . . of course it also brings with it tragedies. Motels in some areas have become breeding grounds for the Maori gangs, terrorising other people on welfare and in real need.

    It has gone tits up since Jacinda decided to make it a fee for all and create true apardheit.



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    It;s splendid nationa sa sheep lover if it weren't for you and Ant and the ruggabugga culture, the tattooes I'd move there
    Sooooooeeeeeeeee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Motels in some areas have become breeding grounds for the Maori gangs, terrorising other people on welfare and in real need.
    Why is this is the rent paid or subsidised?

    I was warned in NSW many years ago 2004 the same issue where some cheap Motels were full of sex workers and of course the coming and going if you'll pardon the expression at all hours.

    In rural Oz I often used the only option the old simple rooms seldom en suite above the pub, only drawback was noise from the bar, no problem for me on vacation if you cannot beat 'em join 'em. There was a really good one somewhere on the long Drive Sydney to Cairns I need to check a map , Kyogle, Casino or Nambucca Heads?

    As aside might rent a camper/Winnebago type next visit to S Island are there any towns or areas you would not stop with your family for these reasons of safety? Never stop downtown, prefer campsites with hook up but doing a "lap" need to have freedom to stop anywhere we like.

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    Nurses among rising numbers of workers using food banks, research shows | Food banks | The Guardian

    As donors dry up it is getting tighter, seems hard to believe as someone who offers help at Croydon when in UK it is desperate to see the need, cycling distance from the Palaces of the Oligarchs, Royals and the many multi million pound homes of Surrey suburbs /Hills my own former modest 3 bed house is now well over 6 figures I hear.

    Nurses, shop assistants and youth workers are among large numbers of people in low-paid jobs forced for the first time to accept charity food parcels to stay afloat as the cost of living crisis transforms the profile of the typical UK food bank user.
    Research by the Trussell Trust, Britain’s largest food bank network, found one in in five people referred to its 1,300 food bank centres in the summer were from households where someone worked. It also reported 145,000 families had used its food banks for the first time in recent months, an increase of 40%.

    Examples of people in in-work poverty referred to Trussell Trust food banks in recent months include trainee nurses, teaching assistants, factory workers, retail assistants, delivery drivers and hospitality workers.
    The Trussell Trust announced on Thursday morning it had given out record numbers of food parcels in the six months since April as shrinking incomes and rising bills drove a “tsunami” of need to its food banks. It gave out 1.3m food parcels over the period, a third more than during the same period in 2021.
    “These new statistics show that, even in summer months, people are struggling to afford the essentials and we are expecting that this winter will be the hardest yet for food banks and the people they support. This is not right,” said Emma Revie, the Trussell Trust chief executive.
    The increasing numbers of people holding down jobs while relying on the trust’s food parcels has persuaded some food banks in its network to open at 8am to allow people referred to them to pick up a food parcel on their way to work.
    “Although we have a large proportion of people referred to us who are on benefits, we are seeing more and more people who are working, but whose wages have not increased in line with the rise in the cost of food, fuel and other items needed for a basic living standard,” said Gill Fourie, the operational manager at Blackburn food bank.


    She added: “We are talking about anyone who is in a minimum wage job, or people on zero hours contracts. These people are often really struggling.”
    Greenwich food bank head Jamie Ginns told the Guardian “lots of new faces were coming through the doors” of food banks, adding: “Basically, anyone that is on under £25,000 a year is in danger of using a food bank.”



    Sharron, a youth worker from London in her 30s, told the Guardian she had had to use a Trussell Trust food bank while working part time. “Your dignity and pride takes a blow. You are working, you have a flat – how can you not afford to feed yourself? It strips you of your self-esteem.”
    Ironically, the youth project she now works at is to start offering emergency food packages for the parents of some of the youngsters who attend, many of whom are really struggling. She would prefer those families were helped through higher wages but “sometimes there is no time for pride, it’s about survival”.

    FYI the 25k a year is about 2.5 times the UK state pension , of course some have occupational pensions too or big equity in homes shares, but many in social housing (projects Houso HLM etc ) are reliant entirely on the state . Whatever government policy the costs of the non productive , asylum seekers, disabled, unemployed , retired and sick is rocketing at a time when public appetite for higher personal taxation is minimal due to inflationary pressures.

    As in most nations people are living longer but not working sufficiently longer to offset the costs.
    While working to 70 or beyond may be fine for us white collar types , it may be impossible for health and safety reasons for some jobs, we wont really want 100 year old airline pilots, surgeons even taxi drivers, I heard there is lower demand for 90 year old masseurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43 View Post
    I left the UK 20 years ago. I did a quick check on accommodation rental prices, should I be forced for whatever reason to return to ol' Blighty. According to rightmove.co.uk, the only accommodation that I can actually afford would be a lock-up garage. Better to stay renting my 208 GBP cabin in the woods on Koh Phangan!
    Didn’t take long to work out that, while subsistence levels are possible in UK, the third world and developing countries are better than just managing to exist in UK.
    The cost of living here rose sharply after peak Covid, then returned to more acceptable levels when tourism started up again.
    My rent is a bit more than yours, but still manageable.

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    Whole planet has been living it up in cheap credit , some have acquired assets , savings, businesses, for those unable to increase their income for whatever reason it's going to be a tough time .

    IMHO it is no ta single issue there ar emultiple major isuse inter alia

    Climate
    Inlfation
    Fuel costs
    Disease
    War
    Transition to sustainable lifestyles

    I a sure there are many others and some are region, class or age specific

    Good luck to the younger generation they need all the help they can get esp education

    As a teenager sport and where to obtain French Letters gfs and tickets to events dominated my thinking til I bought my first paid off home age 22

    Having a stake the ability to improve garden paint decorate to your taste , invite friends was a great step forward denied to those destined to live in parnets basement ot their childhood room forever

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    China and its lockdowns and container capacity is a biggie

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