Thread: Good Bye...and Good Riddance

Christian conservatives are destroying the US

^ oh i dont know, i think the right to bear arms, social meejah and a declining IQ could also play a part

Originally Posted by malmomike77

i think the right to bear arms, social meejah and a declining IQ could also play a part

...agree except for the last part: now that tRump has left office, the national IQ has risen...

Humm ... ignoring the Catholic Hispanic influence?

BTW, I'm not Christian ... but don't you dare steal my Christmas

Oh is it now ? Or maybe its just morphing into something else



Social justice warriors and Christians both come from a place of concern about the least of these. Christians believe that all people are sinners and that Jesus died to redeem our sins, so that we may be forgiven through the grace of God. The Woke believe that, “race shapes every part of our lives.”1 White people are blind to “reality” and either intentionally or inadvertently oppressors – the equivalent of sinners.

Original sin = implicit bias

Where they differ most is in how they treat non believers.

The goal of Woke Religionists is to hunt down, find out, and unveil everyone who will not be converted and see to it that they are fired from their job, ostracized from their communities, and scorned publicly. Not even radical Islam takes such a harsh approach toward those who refuse to be converted. Many innocent people feel it necessary to march along with the Woke Religionists (whether literally or figuratively) just to not be targeted for their sin of non-conformity.

A part of this ‘others are damned’ conviction is the tendency toward iconoclasm, the intolerance toward images or symbols that aren’t approved by the religion. Among Christians, this is seen in Protestants who disapprove of Catholic icons or Catholics who historically have destroyed Islamic sculptures. In the Religion of Wokeness, the tendency toward iconoclasm is more violent than at any time since the Crusades.

And a wild alt-right soy-boy appears...

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Humm ... ignoring the Catholic Hispanic influence?

BTW, I'm not Christian ... but don't you dare steal my Christmas

Catholic Christianity is the dominant religion in Mexico, representing about 82.7% of the total population as of 2010.

Seems like a bit of an own goal on the part of the new religion of Woke to bring in immigrant from Mexico

Originally Posted by tomcat

...agree except for the last part: now that tRump has left office, the national IQ has risen...

His stench remains though and the GQP is his and have abandoned America and the rule of law in the quest for their own power.

Obstruction and wilful lies is all they are now.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Catholic Christianity is the dominant religion in Mexico, representing about 82.7% of the total population as of 2010.

Seems like a bit of an own goal on the part of the new religion of Woke to bring in immigrant from Mexico

There is no new religion of the woke as you like to all it.

The dominant religions all have hardline (conservative) and moderate branches. You seem to be trying to complicate things further with your new use of language. Until such time as you have learned to speak and use proper English, you would be better to keep quiet.

As for Tomcat, his feelings are well known, but this seems to have given him a new head of steam. As an atheist I am similarly minded, but the US branch of Christianity is still loud and proud, and awash with money.

Wherever such intolerance exists, religious wars will continue to be fought, in mosques, churches and anywhere that extreme or radical preaching continues.

Backspin please don’t post again unless it’s in English. The only languages allowed on this forum are English and Thai. You have been warned. If you insist on posting bullshit again, I will be left with no alternative but to report your post.

Originally Posted by tomcat

The weird spiral of declining Christianity in America

By Joel Mathis (This Week)

Wed, December 15, 2021







A cross. Illustrated | iStock

The decline of American Christianity is continuing apace. The Pew Research Center reports today that the number of self-identified Christians has declined by 12 percentage points since 2012, while religious "nones" have grown by 10 points during that time. (Other surveys have shown similar drops.) Christians are still the dominant cultural group in America — at 63 percent of the population, they still have a two-to-one advantage over the non-religious — but they're not quite as dominant as they used to be.

The secularization of America is a long-term process and has many causes, and the percentage of Christians has been trending downward since Pew first surveyed the issue in 2007. Moreover, not everything in public life over the last decade has been about former President Donald Trump, even if it sometimes feels that way.

Still, Trumpism might be both the beneficiary and accelerant of Christianity's loosening grip on the culture.
On the one hand, a 2018 study suggested Trump's victory in 2016 was driven by a cohort — white Christian men — who feared they were losing their cultural dominance: Support for Trump was linked to a belief that "high status" groups actually faced more discrimination than "low status" groups like minorities and Muslims. "This sense of ownership of America just runs so deep in white evangelical circles," Robert P. Jones of the Public Religion Research Institute told columnist Michelle Goldberg earlier this year. As president, Trump cemented the loyalty of this group by fashioning his administration as a champion of "religious liberty," which was mainly a project to preserve the declining cultural power of conservative Christians. It worked: Some 85 percent of white evangelicals who attend services at least once a month voted for Trump in 2020.

Yet Pew's report suggests evangelicals are continuing to lose ground, albeit more slowly than Christianity at large, dropping from 30 percent of the population in 2007 to 24 percent in the new report. (Pew previously reported some conservatives have flocked to evangelical churches in recent years.) But many pastors report their churches have been riven by political conflict as never before, and there's anecdotal evidence that some young people are fleeing their churches rather than be seen as aligning with Trump's toxicity. Some researchers believe the decline in churchgoing is a repudiation of that brand of Republican politics.

White evangelicals are not all of American Christianity, of course. Catholics — who evenly split their votes in 2020 — have seen their numbers hold steady in recent years. But you can see where this is going: If Christianity's decline feeds Trumpism, and if Trumpism feeds Christianity's decline, then American churches might be locked in a nasty spiral, with the rest of the country along for the ride...

You have jumped the gun. Still life in the old dog yet. (Unfortunately)

Originally Posted by Switch

There is no new religion of the woke as you like to all it.

The dominant religions all have hardline (conservative) and moderate branches. You seem to be trying to complicate things further with your new use of language. Until such time as you have learned to speak and use proper English, you would be better to keep quiet.

As for Tomcat, his feelings are well known, but this seems to have given him a new head of steam. As an atheist I am similarly minded, but the US branch of Christianity is still loud and proud, and awash with money.

Wherever such intolerance exists, religious wars will continue to be fought, in mosques, churches and anywhere that extreme or radical preaching continues.

Backspin please don’t post again unless it’s in English. The only languages allowed on this forum are English and Thai. You have been warned. If you insist on posting bullshit again, I will be left with no alternative but to report your post.

If states and public entities are increasingly patronizing woke identities and causes, are they also establishing wokeness as a government-sanctioned religion? In some respects, they surely are.

The Supreme Court case Lemon v. Kurtzman has set the standard for what qualifies as an unconstitutional establishment of religion in America since 1971. The Lemon test consists of three dictates: Laws must have a secular purpose, they must not have the primary effect of advancing or inhibiting religion, and they must not promote excessive government entanglement in religious matters.

If wokeness is indeed a religion, then efforts to establish its tenets through legal and regulatory frameworks clearly violate the Lemon test. State-sanctioned endorsements of woke identities advance the woke faith, as do municipal commissions tasked with promoting identity-based equity initiatives.

Distribution of state money to woke identity groups and causes fosters government entanglement in religion. The hiring of diversity, equity, and inclusion administrators at public universities to oversee the representation of clean identities is akin to those universities hiring priests or rabbis to oversee their adherence to Catholicism or Judaism.

^ What a load of tosh from the far right. Who wrote that?

Put a link u twat.

Wokeness is no more religion than the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Jedism

Originally Posted by cyrille

Put a link u twat.

Since you asked so politely


Wokeness and the New Religious Establishment | National Affairs

Originally Posted by Backspin

Since you asked so politely


Wokeness and the New Religious Establishment | National Affairs

Nobody likes a plagiarist.

Originally Posted by misskit

^ What a load of tosh from the far right. Who wrote that?

We know for sure that he didn’t write it because it’s mostly in English.

Its still Google fu nonsense though.

The only people who use the word woke, are the media, usually being provocative and shit stirring.

I’m not going to say happy holidays, as advised by media. I’ll stick to Merry Christmas.

Originally Posted by Switch

The only people who use the word woke, are the media, usually being provocative and shit stirring.

'Woke' generally meaning 'aware of social issues' is a weird thing to use as a perjorative.

A: You're woke!
B: ...Ok?

And let's be honest, socal's superficial level of navel-gazing contemplation means that he's just parroting it.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

socal's superficial level of navel-gazing contemplation means that he's just parroting it.

Not the first time he deceptively posted someone else's words to look as his own.

Was hoping this was a flounce thread.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Not the first time he deceptively posted someone else's words to look as his own.

He's a dishonest little shit weasel.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Was hoping this was a flounce thread.

In the unlikely event that backspin did flounce, the post would be littered with language undermining his alleged adult status.

He doesn’t fit in the real world, so he pretends to fit in here instead.

America is sick:

"We live in a country where you take a weapon of war to a protest, shoot three people, killing two, get away with it and that gets you booked for a Personal appearance gig where people will cheer that you’re a murderer. USA, USA!"