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    German Easels, sonst noch?

    The Mister Race will need to get the slide rule out to determins the mating options Monday.

    Not since 1939 has the term Germany goes to the Poles been so moot.

    The soft left have slim semi ahead of the rebranded CSU+CDU repenetant nazis who may yet groom a rare Jamaican Brazilian and schhhh (Austrian hunkerbunker coallition of racists Catholics, sausage smugglers and 70s moustached pornstar)

    Mutti Merkel has been recalled to Moscow by her handlers and new boy good soldier Scholz looked a shoe in until market rattle.

    A national slavation front has emerged which instead of straight sex on Ruhetag now intends to bugga immigrants, lesbians on alternate days.
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    AfD Alteranativ fur Deutschland pokeswoman Crystal nacht said Our bite makes Free Corp

    No one is quite sure of the AfD policy agenda but its stiff, the motto gives us a clue , like most Germans they distance themselves from National Socalist and claim Hitler was a failure, being to wishy washy liberals financed by ther new cryto Mine Trumpf

    Ein Ferk, Ein Poof-of-Concept , Ein Farter.

    The worrying thing esp if you are a brown, gay or sporting a Panama Hat, or all 3 that these AfD neo nazis are already in 3rd place and millions and millions rich Germans subsidised for decades by USA , Nato on the cheap will vote for xenophobes.

    The Greens thought they may be Kaiser makers but the CIA party the Liberal Dems are usually allowed to decide important decisions since BRD chose the gemutlicher alte Genscher tendancy to suck Langleys cock.

    Alles Klar oder....

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    FDP slogan for 2021 as many a sodomite has been counselled

    Wie es ist darf es nicht bleiben = It cannot stay as it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    The soft left have slim semi ahead
    Yes, they are slimy
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    The Greens thought they may be Kaiser makers
    Used to be a party with alternatives,......and then Judas Opportunisimus Fischer stepped into the arena.

    Uh !

    He liked that power trip.


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    and millions and millions rich Germans subsidised for decades by USA , Nato on the cheap will vote for xenophobes.
    The rich ?

    Millions will vote for anything else than the established parties, and the ones who would naturally belong in the SPD, still haven't forgotten the ass rape they got from Gerhard Schrøder.

    Does he still work for Putin ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Gerhard Schrøder.
    I fear you may be may be misunderconfusy ID him with Gerhard Schröder of rapers of the lust park

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    Nicht so, Kumbel
    Mehr als Klingon to the Crystal Nacht

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Kumbel
    Pee Tynem reminds me of Innuit playmate Husly Elsie

    Velly velly good Khvn Helge

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    reminds me of Innuit playmate
    You just did

    Have had the aquaintance of some fine and special specimens of our northern humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Used to be a party with alternatives,......and then Judas Opportunisimus Fischer stepped into the arena.
    Easily one of the worst politicians of the times


    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    The worrying thing esp if you are a brown, gay or sporting a Panama Hat, or all 3 that these AfD neo nazis are already in 3rd place and millions and millions rich Germans subsidised for decades by USA , Nato on the cheap will vote for xenophobes.
    Not sure what you're saying here regarding rich/NATO/xenophobe/subsidies etc . . . but the AfD is fourth and only has single digit representation is most states and a majority in none. In the former East Germany they are stronger - less educated and anti-Left from the Communist days.

    Not one state is ruled by the AfD, not one state leader is from the AfD. Not one state has the AfD as a coalition partner.




    To think that the AfD has anything to say or any way to manipulate the political scene on a larger level is ludicrous. They attract a certain type of voter with the same idiotic and simplistic messages as the Conservatives did with their Brexit bravado and lies.

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    To take it further, the AfD lost 8 seats in parliament between 2017 and now and are only helped by the 'Zweitstimmensitzberechnung' (I know your German is quite good, so I'll post it here) as outlined by one state as an example, Baden-Würtemberg



    As far as I can see, they won't have any major role in state nor federal politics as they are poison to be seen working with by other parties who would rather ally themselves in a coalition with their ideological opposites than with the AfD (As is seen in several East German states)

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Easily one of the worst politicians of the times


    Not sure what you're saying here regarding rich/NATO/xenophobe/subsidies etc . . . but the AfD is fourth and only has single digit representation is most states and a majority in none. In the former East Germany they are stronger - less educated and anti-Left from the Communist days.

    Not one state is ruled by the AfD, not one state leader is from the AfD. Not one state has the AfD as a coalition partner.




    To think that the AfD has anything to say or any way to manipulate the political scene on a larger level is ludicrous. They attract a certain type of voter with the same idiotic and simplistic messages as the Conservatives did with their Brexit bravado and lies.

    I agree with most and they represent the vile mentality as elswhere.

    However they are the current largest opposition party just as the NSDAP were once.
    Sachsen was until recently a stronghold for them until Angie cracked down.
    Your own stats show 1/7 in wealthy Hessen and millions more old The Rheinische Paltinate areas Nord Rhein Westfalen, seem t have made less headwau on deeply Catholic Conservative South but that could change if they can find a charismatic leader. Scholz seems like a solid stool , while Laschert teh unwanted enema both dwarfs after SchneeMutti

    I do not imagine they will take power on Sunday however the decline of Germany will make ther agenda as attractive as Brexit or Trump were to the horror of moderates like us. A weak centre or cene left or a weak unpopllar Laschert FDP lash up will only increase their voter base.

    The lesson of History which seems to be being forgotton
    In 1930 Nazis had similar low support , 3 years later they had a dictatoral 3rd Reich. Result 1930
    Nazis (NSDAP): 107 seats and 18.3% of the votes.

    Anyway we may agree to differ and we'll all find out soon enough whose to explain to the German taxpayer that now the Brits have dived into teh Atlantic arms outstretched for Uncle Sam to svae them all teh beggars of Europe will be lookng to Berlin. Komrad Lysenko shovelling the wretched of teh Earth over the Polish Lett and Livonan corridors like confetti and you can be sure teh Poles will pass teh parcel straigh across teh Oder Neisse.

    Alles Gluck I think your sole problesm will be over amourous Sheep and Maoris

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    However they are the current largest opposition party just as the NSDAP were once.
    Define 'opposition'. Where the CDU/CSU is in power the opposition is the SPD and vice versa. Are the AfD in 'opposition'? Of course - even with 5% they'd be in the opposition.



    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    The lesson of History which seems to be being forgotton
    In 1930 Nazis had similar low support , 3 years later they had a dictatoral 3rd Reich. Result 1930
    Nazis (NSDAP): 107 seats and 18.3% of the votes.
    I'm not sure how history is "being forgotten" and somehow applies to a minor right-wing party overthrowing a completely different system under completely different circumstances with an utterly different mentality of the population.
    That's creating unfunded hypostheses, saying what happened once will happen again - without taking any structure into account which allowed the initial occurrence and which prohibits a current one.



    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Your own stats show 1/7 in wealthy Hessen
    Yes. 1/7th. Speaks for itself.



    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    however the decline of Germany will make ther agenda as attractive as Brexit or Trump were to the horror of moderates like us.
    Germany's decline . . . ok. You fail to take into account the difference in education and standard of living between the UK, US and Germany - there's no comparison between any of them. Uneducated Trumptards and right-wing morons or Chav-armies spurned on by the rantings of Robinson and the BNP . . . Germany's equivalent? Yea . . . nah.
    The AfD has had many years to create chaos and man the ramparts - nothing. Anti-foreigner sentiment? Mild at best considering the number of refugees . . . the AfD had nothing to offer creating resentment.



    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    if they can find a charismatic leader.
    . . . you clearly don't understand 'modern' Germans nor Germany if you think a "charismatic leader" can usurp the democratic process, endanger the Wohlstandsgesellschaft and enlist para-military forces and then the real military to take over power.


    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    seem t have made less headwau on deeply Catholic Conservative South
    Odd that you would say that, especially considering the
    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    millions more old The Rheinische Paltinate areas Nord Rhein Westfalen
    and that Bavaria has 10% and NRW 7% - you're contradicting yourself here.



    As an intellectual exercise this is excellent, particularly given one point of Germany's history 80 years ago - as a 'warning' of history repeating itself it is nonsensical, I believe.

    Good discussion

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    As mentioned the left is more powerful than the right and the AfD is cut off, as always, losing votes



    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    However they are the current largest opposition party just as the NSDAP were once.
    They're in fifth at best and without coalition partners, so chucked in the corner where they have been and where they belong.

    Not a coalition partner possibility anywhere with anyone







    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    The lesson of History which seems to be being forgotton
    In 1930 Nazis had similar low support , 3 years later they had a dictatoral 3rd Reich. Result 1930
    Again, history is not forgotten and structures have been changed - what else is there to do in a democracy? For 80 years Germans have despised the idea of fascism, even far right politics - if you knew the society or individuals even you'd know this isn't changing.

    How has history been forgotten? By a group of powerless halfwits?

    I guess when the Queen has been replaced by a Mufti or Imam again we can talk about history.

    Until then the results are just what I had hoped for . . . as long as the Greens don't get the Chancellorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    as long as the Greens don't get the Chancellorship.
    So now the muslims have invaded Germany which way will they turn, North to the Scandi Euro refusnks
    East to the Poles who despite getting lots of Prussia , Silesia don't want a multi culturaal neighbour
    South to all those feckless sunseekers from Cyprus to Portugal with their outstretched arsm to wards teh German worers pocket or I suppose the usual last resort do to teh French what I've been dong to teh English tongue fo ryears.

    I don't think an invason will be necessary they thirst for real beer, women and cars that work, Who knows in a few years the New Condfederation of teh Rein may invite Londonsitan to the Muncher Oktober Haj.

    As a symbol of solid hilarity we in teh Sud Schleswig Partie will pledge our allegiance to

    BUNDESKANZLER HATTY, Epicure Emeritus , our loss here in Ready Ranters will be teh Farter Lands gain
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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    BUNDESKANZLER HATTY
    That has a nice ring to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    That has a nice ring to it!
    Of course if seek the yoof and avant garde vote

    They call it

    BUNDESKANZLERin HATTchen Keep smilin Tropically winter and new wave of misery awaits those who shovel snow

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    Does the position come with nice headgear? Or . . . should I go for the Präsidentenamt? Less work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Does the position come with nice headgear? Or . . . should I go for the Präsidentenamt? Less work.
    Be the heit og Gemutlich

    His n Hers should set you up for any occasion , meetig foreign leaders or a quiet night in the jacuzzi wuth navnfun and lutineprancer




    Your reserved parking is being sorted


    I am lucky to inherit Strollers best outfit with teh silver wandshiled for rainy days.

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    . . . I'm NOT Bavarian!

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    While Kenya Jamaica on teh horizon in 2 Lander AfD topped the poll tho lower in teh West.
    Of course no one will work with them but make me think twice about visiting with Thai wife?

    DW report
    Far-right AfD builds on strongholds in east

    Voting results show continued regional disparities in performance for the populist Alternative for Germany (AfD).
    It emerged as the strongest party in the eastern German state of Thuringia, winning 24% of votes. The Social Democrats came in second at 23.4%. In neighboring Saxony, the AfD also received the largest share of votes at 24.6%, and the SPD were also in second place there at 19.3%
    The AfD traditionally performs better in Germany's less-wealthy eastern states. Its performances in larger and more affluent states like Bavaria (9%) and Rhineland Palatinate (9.7%) it was closer to its national average of between 10-11%

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    I'm NOT Bavarian!
    If you were, you would be the only one supporting The First FC Coal Own.

    (saw they won the other day; what is the world coming to ? )


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    An article regarding the Germany and China relationship. It appears, from German and Chinese sources, to suggest an ongoing, no boat rocking cruise, whoever is elected.

    Any thoughts from our knowledgable TD members?

    Germans vote in crucial poll for Merkel's successor

    Whoever takes office, Germany will remain "pragmatic" on China ties despite short bumpy road: analysts

    By GT staff reporters Published: Sep 26, 2021 09:43 PM Updated: Sep 26, 2021 11:47 PM

    "In what has been dubbed by observers as a "most uncertain election," Germans are voting to decide who will succeed long-serving Chancellor Angela Merkel. Yet what is certain is that the next German leader will carry on Merkel's "pragmatic" policy toward China as it stands for the best interest of Europe's bellwether.

    Polls opened at 8 am local time in Germany on Sunday, marking the final sprint in this important election, not only for Germany, but also for Europe and the world. A clear indication is expected to appear when voting comes to an end at 6 pm German time on Sunday - midnight of Beijing time on Sunday.

    The two camps in the current ruling coalition - the conservative CDU/CSU alliance and the center-left Social Democrats - are almost neck and neck as voters prepare to choose. The latest opinion polls show the center-left Social Democrat Party (SPD) leading on about 25 percent, while Merkel's Christian Democrats (CDU) conservative alliance is lagging on around 22 percent, Deutsche Welle reported.

    Chinese observers said that opinion polls in Germany are more reliable than other Western polls, yet the small margin between the two parties renders them to predict two outcomes: One is a coalition headed by the CDU and the Christian Social Union in Bavaria (CSU), led by Armin Laschet. The other is a coalition led by Olaf Scholz of the SPD. In either case, the coalition would be joined by the Greens and the pro-[at]business Free Democrats.

    The China factor

    Less than three days before the poll opened, candidates from seven major parties engaged in a final televised debate, where they touched on the relationship with China, one of Germany's most important trade partners.

    Laschet said that he supports Merkel's stance on China and believes Germany must continue being China's "reliable friend." Scholz avoided talking about China, only stressing the need for a strong and independent Europe on the diplomatic front.

    The fact that China failed to become the focus of this German election means the parties do not greatly diverge on foreign policy, including on China, therefore, it can be predicted that Germany will largely adhere to its traditional foreign policy toward China.

    "For one thing, the SPD's Scholz follows the line of former leader Gerhard Schröder, which stresses a pragmatic approach and a rather independent values system different from [that of] the US," Zhao Junjie, a research fellow at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences' Institute of European Studies, told the Global Times on Sunday.

    "Its values system traces back to the founding of the party in the 1860s, when it started out as a workers' party, one of the first Marxist-influenced parties in the world. It was once Europe's largest Marxist party."

    Experts noted that if chosen as leader, Scholz will carry on Merkel's pragmatic policy and will not drag Germany into reckless attacks of other countries. The SPD leader has said very little on China.

    The SPD's 15-page position paper on China from last year was replaced by a couple of paragraphs in this year's manifesto.

    The CDU's Armin Laschet has made his position on China clear. When the party launched its campaign in June, the Financial Times quoted Laschet as questioning the logic of criticizing China on human rights, saying Germany's relationship with China was guided by strong commercial ties.

    "The China-Germany intergovernmental consultations will most likely be inherited by Scholz if he takes office," Zhao said. "And the mechanism will continue in the long run, as it will discuss matters of actual cooperation between the two sides which will not be dropped whoever takes office."

    Yet experts predicted that the China-Germany relations will likely hit a short period of bumpy road after a new leader takes office, as the two small parties, the Greens and the Free Democrats, who are hawkish on China, are likely to join a coalition government.

    "Yet such turbulence will be short-lived, as Germany will eventually sway back to sensibility," Jiang Feng, a scholar with Shanghai International Studies University, told the Global Times on Sunday.

    Chinese analysts also pointed out that the China-Germany intergovernmental consultations - the long-standing mechanism between the Chinese and German governments - are a forum where senior members of the two governments can periodically discuss major policymaking issues or resolve discrepancies.


    Stay neutral


    Prior to the German election, the chasm between Europe and the US deepened after the hasty US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan stunned its European allies. Most recently, France was outraged by a nuclear submarine deal among the US, Australia and UK, which caused the cancelation of a $66 billion submarine deal between Paris and Canberra.

    "In the moment, everybody is choked to realize the Americans have changed gear and that Biden, although a nice and polite person compared to Trump, still pursues what they started under Obama, to forge an alliance to contain China… Germany is not interested in being drawn into any type of confrontation with China," an expert on Germany in China told the Global Times on condition of anonymity, noting that although Germany seeks military protection from the US, Berlin disagrees with Washington's hostile position against Beijing.

    Speaking to the Financial Times in June, after US President Joe Biden's first official trip to Europe, Laschet suggested many in Europe were skeptical of Biden's hawkish attitude to China.

    "The question is - if we're talking about 'restraining' China, will that lead to a new conflict? Do we need a new adversary?" he said. "And there the European response was cautious, because, yes, China is a competitor and a systemic rival, it has a different model of society, but it's also a partner, particularly in things like fighting climate change."

    Jiang pointed out that German politicians see very clearly that the US plans to counterbalance France and Russia with Germany, while at the same time making use of the Eastern European countries to check Germany. But Germany knows that its development is inseparable from China.

    Take climate change. Germany will find it hard to push forward climate change-related issues without China's help, and its business and trade cannot thrive without the Chinese market, said Jiang, "especially after the pandemic, it is hard to decouple from Beijing."

    "Germans are quite conservative in their political attitudes, they like constant governments, not too much change and disruption. And if they get the feeling that somebody wants to take them in the leech, they hide in privacy and pay back at the poll station," the above-mentioned anonymous expert said."


    Germans vote in crucial poll for Merkel's successor - Global Times
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    . . I'm NOT Bavarian!

    I am Aryan, I dropped the "Bav" years ago. Stuff Herr Schicklgruber and his butties! We, wogs, gotta stick together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Far-right AfD builds on strongholds in east
    ... and loses seats in general


    Doesn't matter how you want to slice or dice it, whether you want to cry "NAZI" at every turn simply . . . because it suits?

    The AfD has been further marginalised and are fifth overall in the Bundestag, the smallest party and - again - without coalition partners




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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    If you were, you would be the only one supporting The First FC Coal Own.
    Very true . . .



    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    (saw they won the other day; what is the world coming to ? )
    Business as usual . . . if only.

    Although, unbeaten since August!! Until we meet Hoffenheim shortly


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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    the smallest party and - again - without coalition partners
    Your own graphic reveal our Sod Slesvig make Dansih the national sexual position party the slimmest the smallest but undoubtedly the most deviant , see you up past Flensburg , yule find many likeminded folks in Krusa. Like you I am delighted teh AfD have flopped but not crushed their vote larger tha Die Linke in most places and while I hope they will dwindle there is a digrunteld underclass of Saxons who would like to be top Saxons, like those wo mingked with Celts in USA or Angles from Jutland. I fear the closest they'll get to be a master race is a Slovakian maid or Romanian oddknob man.

    IMHO Europe is in almost as fast terminal declne as my good self.I recommend you valve and oil your moving parts with alacrity and duck oil.
    Q. As a point of info if no working colaition can be found who will decde next election date the President?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Your own graphic reveal our Sod Slesvig make Dansih the national sexual position party the slimmest the smallest but undoubtedly the most deviant
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