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    Russia to unveil brand new 5th gen fighter jet

    5 days from now, Russia will unveil a brand new 5th generation stealth fighter. This will be a low mix light fighter intended to go up against F-35's and F-16's. The su 57 is Russia's first 5th gen air superiority heavy fighter. This will be the second.




    Rostec , Russia's main military export concern, says that there is interest from 5 countries for export. India, Argentina, Vietnam, Algeria and the UAE

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    Cheaper to run/buy/maintain, no ameristani $$$$$$ or "contractors" required.

    Similar weapons and electronics platform for predominantly overland missions.

    A winning formulae IMHO.

    Coupled with Russian air defence systems, tanks, artillery .... Plus training and competent leadership.

    Eurasian, African and South American air force's affordable dream plane may have arrived.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Eurasian, African and South American air force's affordable dream plane may have arrived.
    ...with all those wonderful attributes, I may buy one myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Cheaper to run/buy/maintain, no ameristani $$$$$$ or "contractors" required.
    I will get back to you in a day or so Maoboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    This will be a low mix light fighter intended to go up against F-35's and F-16's
    Touting capable of going up against the F16, first developed in 1978, is not exactly a strong marketing point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Touting capable of going up against the F16, first developed in 1978, is not exactly a strong marketing point.
    Umm fighter aircraft are not consumer goods. The F-16 is a very aerodynamically capable aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Touting capable of going up against the F16, first developed in 1978, is not exactly a strong marketing point.
    Hmm

    Yes

    When was the last time you saw an airbattle ?

    Iraq ? Vietnam?, Korea ?

    Planes are used to bomb weddings

    Get with it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Hmm

    Yes

    When was the last time you saw an airbattle ?

    Iraq ? Vietnam?, Korea ?

    Planes are used to bomb weddings

    Get with it !
    They use Predator drones you numpty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They use Predator drones you numpty.


    Damn

    Haven't been to a wedding lately

    Carry on

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They use Predator drones you numpty.
    To find the training camps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    To find the training camps?
    No, weddings.

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    Shows the targeting pod with HMS defender on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Hmm

    Yes

    When was the last time you saw an airbattle ?

    Iraq ? Vietnam?, Korea ?

    Planes are used to bomb weddings

    Get with it !

    It wasn't very good point made by Norton at all. F-16's are still made today in 2021. And they fly everyday in the US now too. But he wanted a wise-crack put down because that is what Americans all do with Russia.

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    Here's the trailer. Its marketed to Argentina, UAE, India and Vietnam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    But he wanted a wise-crack put down because that is what Americans all do with Russia.
    Norton knew exactly what he was doing and is very much aware of the history of the F16. He also knows why the F16 was included in the marketing lingo. Obvious to the most casual observer. Yes, it was a wise crack.

    F-16 user countries include Bahrain, Belgium, Denmark, Egypt, Greece, Indonesia, Israel, Netherlands, Norway, Pakistan, South Korea, Poland, Portugal, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, USA, Venezuela. The F-16 continues as a modern, highly capable, affordable and supportable fighter. The program is healthy, with a strong likelihood of new orders that will extend the line for several more years.

    Huge market innit.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    It wasn't very good point made by Norton at all. F-16's are still made today in 2021. And they fly everyday in the US now too. But he wanted a wise-crack put down because that is what Americans all do with Russia.
    Skidmark it might be better if you just stayed in your playpen and not venture out..



    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Norton knew exactly what he was doing and is very much aware of the history of the F16. He also knows why the F16 was included in the marketing lingo. Obvious to the most casual observer. Yes, it was a wise crack.

    F-16 user countries include Bahrain, Belgium, Denmark, Egypt, Greece, Indonesia, Israel, Netherlands, Norway, Pakistan, South Korea, Poland, Portugal, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, USA, Venezuela. The F-16 continues as a modern, highly capable, affordable and supportable fighter. The program is healthy, with a strong likelihood of new orders that will extend the line for several more years.

    Huge market innit.
    Because you were just in a very massive way "OWNED"

    Owned, in common slang, means decisively defeated, with the implication of domination and possession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Owned, in common slang, means decisively defeated, with the implication of domination and possession
    ...so, akin to rape then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...so, akin to rape then...
    Perhaps in your eyes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    This will be a low mix light fighter intended to go up against F-35's and F-16's.
    ...Russians also claimed the Lada was a threat to Detroit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...Russians also claimed the Lada was a threat to Detroit...

    The Mig 21 is the best selling jet powered aircraft in the world. 25 countries have Mig 29's in service.(In cae bsnub fact checks me, yes. Its close) More than the F-16. And as far as heavy fighters go, the su 27 Flanker is one of the best sellers in the world too.

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    Some are saying its similar to the US X-32. I'd say not. The fat fuck is the X-32


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    And as far as heavy fighters go, the su 27 Flanker is one of the best sellers in the world too.
    ...a best seller doesn't necessarily indicate effectiveness, just cheapness...and useful if Sierra Leone wants to threaten Liberia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    and useful if Sierra Leone wants to threaten Liberia...
    Quantity has a quality of its own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Huge market innit.
    Wondering which of the "market" had decided by their own evaluation and decision? (how to express it politely?)

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