Thread: Russia to unveil brand new 5th gen fighter jet

Originally Posted by panama hat

Plus ça change

Originally Posted by bsnub

Par the course

Deux bieres, silver plate

Originally Posted by Backspin

You are my mistaking the Sukhoi civil aircraft program with the military side. Sukhoi has a whole depot and plant in India. Military aircraft sales and service was one of the few things in Russia that grew and was healthy through the 90's till now.

The civilian aircraft had logistics and maintenance issues that they are trying to work out. And they wanted to make the hard mistakes with the Sukhoi Superjet before they started the MS-21 airliner. The MS-21 is designed by the Yakovlev design bureau. They had success with civilian jets before like the Yak 40 village trijet

I'm glad to see you know what you are talking about. As I probably said I respect Sukhoi devs, maybe the best in the world. But you understand tactical has now become global. We track everything air ground naval and it happens right then. In this ecosystem lone fighters like Sukhoi or, say, Swedish JAS39 have no future. China has power to make their own ecosystem which they do.

BS,Tell them brother

Originally Posted by DC101

In this ecosystem lone fighters like Sukhoi or, say, Swedish JAS39 have no future. China has power to make their own ecosystem which they do.

Again WTF? Ecosystem?

Originally Posted by DC101

I'm glad to see you know what you are talking about. As I probably said I respect Sukhoi devs, maybe the best in the world. But you understand tactical has now become global. We track everything air ground naval and it happens right then. In this ecosystem lone fighters like Sukhoi or, say, Swedish JAS39 have no future. China has power to make their own ecosystem which they do.

Lol

China’s J-20 Stealth Fighter is Getting a Major Boost - Thanks to Russia

China’s J-20 Stealth Fighter is Getting a Major Boost - Thanks to Russia | The National Interest

China has struggled to build a sufficiently-powerful engine for the J-20 domestically, which is just as important as a thrust-vectoring capability. Ultimately the newest variant of the Chinese-built J-20, the J-20B, is intended to be equipped with powerful Chinese-designed WS-15 engines that would offer increased performance, likely better fuel efficiency, and a higher-altitude flight envelope. But because the production of the newer engine is lagging behind schedule, China has opted for a foreign design made in Russia.


While the Russia-designed AL-31 engine does offer superior thrust output and improves the J-20 platform’s flight characteristics, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force would no doubt prefer not relying on foreign-sourced engines and move J-20B engine production to China.


Despite the newer Chinese engine missing production deadlines, sources claim that the development of the WS-15 is going ahead smoothly and that the engine should be ready in the next couple of years.

New Russian MC-21 Aircraft Can Compete With Boeing And Airbus Models, Analysts Say

A new report says the Russian narrow body Irkut MC-21 “appears to be an excellent aircraft” that can compete with similar models from Airbus and Boeing, but sales outside Russia will be hampered by concerns over maintenance and geopolitics.


The report by the consulting firm Air Insight said the two MC-21 models, which seat between 132 and 175 passengers in two classes, can be competitive with the Boeing 737MAX 8 and the Airbus A320neo.



New Russian MC-21 Aircraft Can Compete With Boeing And Airbus Models, Analysts Say

China Comac “a true dumpster fire of an organisation..."

China Comac “a true dumpster fire of an organisation..." - FliegerFaust

Originally Posted by aging one

Again WTF? Ecosystem?

Yes... A full supply and information system integrated with military command where air and ground and naval come to support you when elephant crashes on your cynical ass

Originally Posted by Backspin

Lol

China’s J-20 Stealth Fighter is Getting a Major Boost - Thanks to Russia

China’s J-20 Stealth Fighter is Getting a Major Boost - Thanks to Russia | The National Interest

China has struggled to build a sufficiently-powerful engine for the J-20 domestically, which is just as important as a thrust-vectoring capability. Ultimately the newest variant of the Chinese-built J-20, the J-20B, is intended to be equipped with powerful Chinese-designed WS-15 engines that would offer increased performance, likely better fuel efficiency, and a higher-altitude flight envelope. But because the production of the newer engine is lagging behind schedule, China has opted for a foreign design made in Russia.


While the Russia-designed AL-31 engine does offer superior thrust output and improves the J-20 platform’s flight characteristics, the People’s Liberation Army Air Force would no doubt prefer not relying on foreign-sourced engines and move J-20B engine production to China.


Despite the newer Chinese engine missing production deadlines, sources claim that the development of the WS-15 is going ahead smoothly and that the engine should be ready in the next couple of years.

That article from Russian govt. Sorry to break your illusion but China is some 15.7 light years ahead of Russia now in tech. China has about everything in tech. Russia has old nukes designed when Russia was technologically great and specific developer teams are great still but overall now Russia can't compete it's like the EU.

The seppos are having problems with theirs. Hoohoo will be terribly excited.

Personally I'm not, because the more speedbumps in the way of nuclear war, the better.

Maybe they should just buy them off the Indians.

Air Force Hypersonic Missile Failure | GM-183A Hypersonic Weapon

But having said that, Vlad probably needs to think about new AWACS rather than fighters, judging by the shit they were still flying around Europe as recently as yesterday.

has it been pointed out that the Australians are on 6th generation now ?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

judging by the shit

"The B-52 took its maiden flight in April 1952."

Bombing foreigners yesterday, allegedly.

Originally Posted by OhOh

"The B-52 took its maiden flight in April 1952."

Bombing foreigners yesterday, allegedly.

Does Vlad have a B-2 then?

B1 and B2 are the names of vlad's anal beads

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But having said that, Vlad probably needs to think about new AWACS rather than fighters, judging by the shit they were still flying around Europe as recently as yesterday.

It is, the A-100 is due to replace the A-50 Mainstay in a few years time.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The seppos are having problems with theirs. Hoohoo will be terribly excited.

Personally I'm not, because the more speedbumps in the way of nuclear war, the better.

Maybe they should just buy them off the Indians.

Air Force Hypersonic Missile Failure | GM-183A Hypersonic Weapon

But having said that, Vlad probably needs to think about new AWACS rather than fighters, judging by the shit they were still flying around Europe as recently as yesterday.

Except Russia has brand new serial TU-160m's. You fool. They just don't use them for exercises because its rude.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Does Vlad have a B-2 then?

Pak Da is a real project for a flying wing bomber to replace the bear. Protoype will be unvieled in 2-3 years

Originally Posted by Backspin

a real

a render

Originally Posted by Backspin

Except Russia has brand new serial TU-160m's. You fool. They just don't use them for exercises because its rude.

Umm . . . ok. It'd be rude.

Good friggin' grief.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Umm . . . ok. It'd be rude.

Good friggin' grief.

The US doesn't fly B2 bombers on little dog pissing on his territory runs either. Its just considered too provocative and rude. So they use the 2nd tier stuff.

Originally Posted by baldrick

a render

Yeah. But im saying, its a real project. You can track the purchasing online. 6 ejection seats have been ordered for the prototypes. Probably will be unvieled in 2 years

Originally Posted by Backspin

Its just considered ...... rude.

By whom?

Apologies, I can only assume my last post got skidmark frantically googling again.