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    birds of a feather stick together

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You are an idiot.
    We see your "noble duty" never be neglected...

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    Not understanding much about these things - despite being engaged many many years ago during my obligatory military service as a checker of the many lighting bulbs in a foregoer of this toy, there were much more bulbs than in this toy:

    Russia to unveil brand new 5th gen fighter jet-su-75-jpg


    Herewith I saw somewhere the specs:

    Name: Sukhoi Su-75 “Checkmate”
    High commonality with Su-57
    Single engine (crucial!)
    3D thrust vectoring of the engine
    Top speed 2400 km/h (about 1500mph or 1300 knots or just under Mach 2)
    Thrust vectoring engines
    30M dollars typical cost
    5,5 years development only (using supercomputers)
    1500km combat range
    STOL (shorter than Su-57’s about 400m)
    Max load: 7.5 tons
    Service Ceiling just under 17km
    Max load: 8+ G
    Ferry range 3000km+ (on internal fuel)
    Low RCS
    Advanced avionics and all glass cockpit
    The Belka N036 AFAR antenna with a detection range of 350-400km
    Long, medium and short range weapons for any targets
    Can engage 6-8 targets (in air, land, water and air defenses) simultaneously
    Will feature the long-range 30P6 air to air missile (range: about 160km)
    AI support and guidance
    Five air-to-air missiles carried internally
    Onboard advanced EW defenses
    The Su-75 has a canon carried inside its internal sections
    The Su-75 can be configured as a single and double seater
    There will be a pilotless version of the Su-75 (automated and remote-controlled)
    The Su-75 has advanced datalinks allowing it to operate together with other aircraft or drones
    Supercruise (not sure? Probably only in a future engine)
    The aircraft is “open architecture” (so it can be adapted to specific needs)
    Sukhoi expects to sell about 300 Su-75 in the next 15 years or so
    The Su-75 can be adapted for naval carrier use
    The target clients are the both the Russian Aerospace Forces (RuASF) and foreign clients (but only export versions for foreign clients).
    Its first flight is scheduled for 2023 and adoption by the RuASF is, assuming a contract is confirmed, set for 2025.
    Price: 25-30 million dollars depending on specific requirements


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    "Defense One delivers news, breaking analysis, and ideas on the topics and trends that are defining the future of U.S. defense and national security."

    ‘It Failed Miserably’: After Wargaming Loss, Joint Chiefs Are Overhauling How the US Military Will Fight

    In a fake battle for Taiwan, U.S. forces lost network access almost immediately. Hyten has issued four directives to help change that.

    Tara Copp


    July 26, 2021

    "A brutal loss in a wargaming exercise last October convinced the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. John Hyten to scrap the joint warfighting concept that had guided U.S. military operations for decades. “Without overstating the issue, it failed miserably. An aggressive red team that had been studying the United States for the last 20 years just ran rings around us. They knew exactly what we're going to do before we did it,” Hyten told an audience Monday at the launch of the Emerging Technologies Institute, an effort by the National Defense Industrial Association industry group to speed military modernization.

    The Pentagon would not provide the name of the wargame, which was classified, but a defense official said one of the scenarios revolved around a battle for Taiwan. One key lesson: gathering ships, aircraft, and other forces to concentrate and reinforce each other’s combat power also made them sitting ducks.

    “We always aggregate to fight, and aggregate to survive. But in today’s world, with hypersonic missiles, with significant long-range fires coming at us from all domains, if you're aggregated and everybody knows where you are, you're vulnerable,” Hyten said.

    Even more critically, the blue team lost access to its networks almost immediately.

    “We basically attempted an information-dominance structure, where information was ubiquitous to our forces. Just like it was in the first Gulf War, just like it has been for the last 20 years, just like everybody in the world, including China and Russia, have watched us do for the last 30 years,” Hyten said.

    “Well, what happens if right from the beginning that information is not available? And that’s the big problem that we faced.”

    In response, the Joint Chiefs have since October been shifting the U.S. military to a new concept of warfighting operations they call “Expanded Maneuver.” Hyten wants the U.S. military to be ready to fight under the new operating concept by 2030, using many of today’s weapons, aircraft, and ships."

    ‘It Failed Miserably’: After Wargaming Loss, Joint Chiefs Are Overhauling How the US Military Will Fight - Defense One2030, 9 years from today.

    In the meantime ....
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    So they won't bother with cyberwar then...

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    ^^

    What does that have to do with a Russian fighter jet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    What does that have to do with a Russian fighter jet
    A casual look at the posts on the thread indicates a 50% of the posts have nothing to do with the topic.

    My post however:

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    scrap the joint warfighting concept
    The "concept" includes

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One key lesson: gathering ships, aircraft, and other forces to concentrate and reinforce each other’s combat power also made them sitting ducks.
    Which indicates that the mighty alternate planes touted here, are susceptible to being made ineffective.

    According to:

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    Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. John Hyten
    Last edited by OhOh; 28-07-2021 at 05:49 PM.

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    ^

    What you seem to be unable to grasp in your simple little mind was that the US has not had a major nation state opponent in over thirty years, so it had become complacent, focusing its doctrine on insurgencies and small nations states like Iraq.

    You as a snivelling groveler of the CCP should not be happy at all that this war game happened because the war game red team was most likely far far more competent than the actual Chinese military.

    This war game will only make the US stronger, dummy.

    That is why they have war games in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^^

    What does that have to do with a Russian fighter jet?
    Nothing, it's just hoohoo trying to big up the decaying Russian military. Paradoxically by thinking China could win with hackers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Paradoxically by thinking China could win with hackers.
    He is too thick to realize that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    likely far far more competent than the actual Chinese military.
    The Chinese have been successfully winning, commercially, militarily, culturally ... for most of the last 2000 years.

    There have been no others anywhere close.

    The dynasties:

    1. Xia Dynasty (c. 2070-1600 BC)

    .....

    13. Qing Dynasty (1644-1912)

    The 13 Dynasties that Ruled China in Order | History Hit

    The competence of ameristan's single century abberation, will blow away with first puff of wind:


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Nothing, it's just hoohoo trying to big up the decaying Russian military. Paradoxically by thinking China could win with hackers.

    The F-22 program was discontinued 11 years ago. Now they are dusting off the F-15 plant. While Russia's 5th gen is being phased in to take over for the su 27 line. Plus the Checkmate is coming along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    The Belka N036 AFAR antenna with a detection range of 350-400km
    Fantasy

    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Will feature the long-range 30P6 air to air missile (range: about 160km)
    More fantasy, isn't that the anti-satellite missile program?

    It's a lightweight single engine fighter, that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Fantasy



    More fantasy, isn't that the anti-satellite missile program?

    It's a lightweight single engine fighter, that's about it.

    Your point ? light fighter with 2 side weapons bays and a bomb door

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    birds of a feather stick together

    Are you into deep sea diving ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    The competence of ameristan's single century abberation, will blow away with first puff of wind:
    Hardly related to topic but all empires/dynasties rise and fall. Just a matter of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Your point ? light fighter with 2 side weapons bays and a bomb door
    Point is marketing is BS. Detection range is BS, missile capability is BS, so don't believe any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Point is marketing is BS. Detection range is BS, missile capability is BS, so don't believe any of it.
    It is all bullshit as is the stealth tech in the plane. It is a 4.5 gen plane at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    It is all bullshit as is the stealth tech in the plane. It is a 4.5 gen plane at best.
    It's a 5th gen plane shit for brains

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    It is a 4.5 gen plane at best.
    You are suggesting tha amerstani military can deploy more superior equipment, with or without the latest "must have tag",
    4th, 4.5, 5th, 6th, ...., generation/a capable deterring force where needed.

    This author of this Asia Times article, suggests otherwise
    , insufficient in quantity and quality:

    America’s ‘Great Retreat’ is well underway

    The US is rapidly lowering its military profile and backing away from commitments to allies in the Middle East and Asia.

    by Stephen Bryen July 29, 2021

    "Why would the US Department of Justice drop five cases against Chinese researchers including Dr Juan Tang, a cancer researcher who allegedly lied on her visa application after photos of her were found wearing a Chinese military uniform?

    Part of the answer is that Tang’s case was dropped to facilitate Deputy Secretary of State Wendy Sherman’s high-level visit this week to China, where she was treated hostilely by her Chinese hosts.

    The five cases are just part of a bigger picture which can best be termed as “The Great Retreat.” In many areas, the US is lowering its profile and backing away from its commitments.

    For example, the US has pulled its only aircraft carrier, the USS Ronald Reagan, from the Pacific ostensibly to cover the retreat from Afghanistan. But whether the Ronald Reagan carrier will return to Japan in the future isn’t altogether clear.

    As the need for an aircraft carrier while the US pulls out of landlocked Afghanistan is questionable, the result is that the US is leaving the Pacific devoid of carrier coverage, which appears to contravene the US policy of protecting its regional allies and partners in the region.

    In Guam, the US has moved its big bombers including the B-1 and B-52 back to the continental United States (CONUS in Penatgonese) and is using the Guam base mostly as a forward depot where it can try and cycle in bombers on an as-needed basis. The real problem: Guam is increasingly threatened by Chinese missiles.

    Meanwhile, the B-1 “Bone” strategic bombers, which have played an important tactical role in Afghanistan, are now mostly grounded with problems ranging from fuel delivery issues to failing aerostructures. Less than 10 B-1s are currently flyable.


    There are only 21 B-2 stealth bombers in the entire US inventory, but most if not all of these would be on standby for a nuclear mission. This leaves the lumbering B-52 as the main US long-range bomber that can be used on conventional missions.


    Unfortunately, the B-52 is an easy target and can only operate with standoff weapons, removing its main advantage which is the ability to deliver heavy bomb loads on targets.

    The US has also pulled its air defense systems, including the Patriot and THAAD from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, making clear its displeasure with those countries and underscoring its effort to conciliate Iran.

    Of course, the decision to leave Afghanistan was taken without adequate coordination with Afghan authorities. US troops and contractors left Bagram Air Base in the middle of the night unannounced, and never formally turned the base over to the Afghan army. The base was immediately looted.

    Along with Afghanistan, President Biden is preparing to take US troops out of Iraq. Already the US Embassy in the Green Zone in Baghdad is subject to regular rocket attacks.

    The US has the C-RAM gun system in place, but its effectiveness against rockets is poor. It won’t be long before the embassy will be indefensible.


    Meanwhile, the US Defense Department has released information about yet another war game apparently focused on the “battle for Taiwan.” But the Pentagon thinks that US forces in support of Taiwan would be “swiftly and thoroughly dominated.”


    The latest wargame only reaffirms results in earlier wargames run by Rand Corporation, the US Marines and a number of think tanks. But the difference is that now the Pentagon has come to the realization (if it hadn’t known before) that its warfighting methods no longer can work in peer-to-peer or peer-to near-peer conflicts.


    Making matters worse, US air defense systems remain a shambles and probably are ineffective in any war scenario.

    The US relies on three main systems: tactically on Patriot PAC 3, strategically on AEGIS (at sea and ground-based) and THAAD. The fourth system, the Ground Based Interceptor (GBI) is at the moment a nearly dead letter, despite huge costs, because it needs a new interceptor missile.

    And Northcom assesses that North Korea could overwhelm and knock out the GBI as early as 2025, if not sooner, and potentially attack the United States. GBI is based in Greely, Alaska and Vandenberg Air Force Base near Lompoc, California.

    In the latest test of AEGIS against two short/intermediate-range ballistic missile targets, only one of the targets was hit. That test, on July 24, 2021, took place off of Hawaii.

    The AEGIS system was installed on the USS Ralph Johnson (DDG-114) and used the AEGIS interceptor missile, SM-6 Dual II. The ship fired four missiles against two targets and hit only one.

    This was an improvement over a previous test last May where a single target was not intercepted. AEGIS is regarded as perhaps the best US system for short and intermediate-range terminal ballistic missile defense and is the backbone of Japan’s sea-based interceptors.

    In missile defense, it is generally understood that firing two missiles at a target should yield a 95% probability of a hit. The latest AEGIS test only achieved 50%.

    Concern over missile defenses is matched by the increasing vulnerability of US weapons platforms and bases. While the US has bases in Japan including on Okinawa, and further away in South Korea and Guam, all of them would be exposed to massive Chinese missile attacks.
    In addition, US aircraft carriers, even if available, will have to locate hundreds, if not thousands, of miles from a war front such as Taiwan, rendering them less than useful for launching and supporting fighter aircraft. Most US carriers do not support the F-35.

    The latest wargame also suggests that the US could not maintain networked communications, meaning that they could be disrupted by the enemy.

    A key US wartime advantage is the ability to mass firepower on high-value targets using networked systems to find the target, direct the nearest interceptor to the target, and knock it out. Networked communications is an important US force multiplier and key to US battle dominance.

    Not included in the wargame released information is the distinct possibility that the Pentagon does not have high confidence in the usefulness or survivability of the semi-stealthy F-35.

    The F-35 is mainly a tactical air superiority platform that carries only a limited number of bombs because it must carry them internally. It has somewhat limited range and it will have to potentially compete in a conflict scenario with increasingly better Chinese aircraft (Su-35, J-20) equipped with beyond visual range (BVD) air-to-air missiles and advanced AESA radars.

    The Navy’s surface ships are primarily useful for anti-air missions and for challenging China’s surface ships. There is some progress in anti-ship missiles, especially the Long Range Anti-Ship Missile (LRASM) which can be used by aircraft including the F-18, B-1B and F-35 and on surface ships.

    It has a range of 300 miles and is regarded as stealthy. Unlike the Russian Tsirkon (Zircon) hypersonic missile, which flies at 5,000 mph or 8,047 kph and fits in existing ship launch tubes, the LRASM (when it is deployed) is subsonic.

    The Russians successfully test-launched a Tsirkon missile from the frigate Admiral Gorshkov on July 19. The Tsirkon has a range of 1,000 kilometers (621 miles) and can’t be detected on radar, according to the Russians.

    Whether China will acquire the Russian missile or build their own is not known, but the Tsirkon significantly outperforms anything the US now has or will have in the next four or five years.

    Meanwhile, the Biden administration’s proposed defense budget (roughly $716 billion) is 4% less than the 2020 Trump defense budget after galloping inflation is taken into account. The Biden administration is maintaining the US Navy at 296 ships, down from the Trump administration goal of 316 ships by 2026.

    The Navy will get only one new Arleigh Burke class guided-missile destroyer at a cost of $2 billion, not two as the Navy had planned. The proposed defense budget also cuts older US Air Force jets from the inventory, including some of the A-10 fleet (42 to be retired from a fleet of 367), and retiring 47 F-16 C/Ds, 48 F-15 C/Ds, 14 KC-10 and 19 KC-35s.

    The US Marines’ expeditionary capability is also being terminated, leaving the Marines as some sort of adjunct to the US Navy. The Army’s budget is also being cut back compared to the other services, but yet it hopes to be able to overmatch potential opponents, mainly China, by 2035.

    In essence, then, the current US posture is best defined as “The Great Retreat.” The US is pulling in its military horns, at least for the time being, leaving partners and allies, especially in the Middle East and East Asia, exposed and uncertain.

    Under the circumstances, many current US allies and partners may thus seek accommodation with China or in the Middle East aligned instead with Russia and Iran."

    https://asiatimes.com/2021/07/americ...well-underway/

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    Hoohoo still doesn't get how it works.

    As the need for an aircraft carrier while the US pulls out of landlocked Afghanistan is questionable, the result is that the US is leaving the Pacific devoid of carrier coverage
    Perhaps words like "ally" are a bit too long for him.

    China has warned the UK's Carrier Strike Group, led by the aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth not to carry out any "improper acts" as it enters the contested South China Sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    aircraft carrier
    In a future conflict involving major powers, there will be only one role to play for aircraft carriers. S--k.

    First targets.

    They are nice bullying banana republics though

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    He is too thick to realize that.
    There seems to be a lack of understanding, especially in "computerised" war games. They are designed to show up your weaknesses against an opponent so you can improve or change tactics, weapons etc and adjust any future defence policy going forward. You learn little from winning other than underestimating your opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    You learn little from winning other than underestimating your opponent.
    Exactly.

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