[QUOTE=cyrille;4285766]Still, loytoy doesn't know anyone who has it.
/QUOTE]
Where have I claimed that I don't know anyone who has had it?
I have posted that I don't know anyone who has died from it!
[QUOTE=cyrille;4285766]Still, loytoy doesn't know anyone who has it.
/QUOTE]
Where have I claimed that I don't know anyone who has had it?
I have posted that I don't know anyone who has died from it!
Excuse Cyrille, hes going stir crazy in ASQ.
We're here for you Sybs, sharing is caring.
We can get through this together
Good to know and maybe this will also help.Cyrille, hes going stir crazy in ASQ.
3 things………
1st – with your QT paperwork. Make damn sure it has an address where you will be staying while in Thailand. It’ll give you a reason to leave the BKK area. YOU HAVE TO GO HOME.
2nd – contact the Head of the Village where you’ll be spending your time. Let them know before hand you’re coming back. Show/send them a copy of your Covid vaccination paperwork/card. More than likely, they will send someone out to see you the day you arrive. Checking paperwork, asking you questions so they can have support and getting you to scan a QR code so that you can register in the province.
3rd – two or more people in a vehicle need to wear a mask. Don’t give anyone any reason to stop you.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Found out yesterday there are only 2 places you can get tested in Roi Et province. Both the provincial government hospitals. Naturally as with the vaccine there are not enough test kits so, you sign up to get in a queue and wait until you are informed of appointment date. Only conclusion any thinking person could come to is the "official" number of cases isn't even close to the actual.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"
It certainly seems likely that proof of either vaccination or negative test (possibly both) is going to be required for travel or social activities nationwide.
M'Sahib was out shopping yesterday and came across a testing place not far from us. They were doing Rapid Antigen tests for 450 baht, which weren't exactly rapid as she tested in the morning and she got the result in the evening. They could also do the full blown PCR tests, though she didn't ask the cost of them.
They have 4 or 5 lab/clinics scattered around Phuket. Anyway, this evening they emailed her the certificate.
You have to be really very naive if you believe the data a Thai agency gave to the World Bank (and what the World Bank made use of it).Originally Posted by Klondyke
But what I do not believe - roughly seen:
The UK has about 8.1 nurses and midwives per 1,000 of the population. Thailand has about 2.8. (World Bank data from 2018).
BTW, never heard of the problem the UK lack of nurses? Same as in all European countries. If not enough nurses from Asia (many also from Tibet), how the health system would function...
I believe that home antigen test kits will be available for purchase fairly soon, though price unknown.
COVID home-testing kits approved
However, a negative home test doesn't provide proof to enable travel, you have to have a certificate from a recognised authority for that, only that you should get yourself to hospital (and presumably properly tested there).
Results from COVID rapid antigen home test kits not accepted for travel
Looks like a hard lockdown coming in many areas. Starting 20th this month. No outside home unless an emergency it seems.
The redefining of provinces:
As COVID-19 infections increase relentlessly in most of Thailand’s provinces, the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has added Ayutthaya, Chachoengsao and Chon Buri provinces to the “maximum controlled and restricted” or “Dark Red” zones.
The number of provinces classified as “maximum controlled”, or “Red” zones has increased to 53, leaving only 10 provinces classified as “controlled”, or “Orange” zones and Phuket as the only province classified as an “under close watch” area.
The remapping of Thailand into these zones, in accordance with the COVID-19 pandemic situation, was published in the Royal Gazette today (Sunday) and will become effective on Tuesday.
The “maximum controlled and restricted zones” now include Bangkok, Chachoengsao, Chon Buri, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Narathiwat, Pathum Thani, Pattani, Ayutthaya, Yala, Songkhla, Samut Prakan and Samut Sakhon.
“Maximum controlled” zones now include Krabi, Kanchanaburi, Kalasin, Kamphaeng Phet, Khon Kaen, Chanthaburi, Chainat, Chaiyaphum, Chiang Rai, Chiang Mai, Trang, Trat, Tak, Nakhon Nayok, Nakhon Ratchasima, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Nakhon Sawan, Buri Ram, Prachuap Khiri Khan, Prachin Buri, Phatthalung, Phichit, Phitsanuloke, Phetchaburi, Phetchabun, Maha Sarakham, Yasothon, Roi-et, Ranong, Ratchaburi, Lop Buri, Lampang, Lamphun, Loei, Si Sa Ket, Sakhon Nakhon, Satun, Samut Songkhram, Sa Kaeo, Saraburi, Sing Buri, Sukhothai, Suphan Buri, Surin, Nong Khai, Nong Bua Lamphu, Ang Thong, Udon Thani, Uthai Thani, Uttradit, Ubon Ratchathani and Amnat Charoen.
The 10 provinces classified as “controlled areas” are Chumpon, Nakhon Phanom, Nan, Bung Karn, Phang-nga, Phrae, Phayao, Muk Dahan, Mae Hong Son and Surat Thani.
https://www.thaipbsworld.com/ccsa-remaps-deep-red-red-orange-and-green-areas-as-covid-19-pandemic-situation-worsens/
^ yeah, but need to see what will be allowed and not. Home food deliveries (staples and cooked)? Will 7-11 be open?
Surely "5-11'?
Added: My mistake,
"4-8".
The restrictions include the closure of all stores in shopping malls at 8pm except for retailers deemed essential, such as supermarkets, chemists and those selling medical and communications equipment. A ban on dine-in eateries continues, while restaurants, wet markets and convenience stores must close from 8pm-4am. No public transport is available from 9pm-4am.
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Agree, not very forthcoming about what the definitive restrictions are. As I understand it though, for the highest (Maximum Controlled and Restricted) provinces i.e. Bangkok etc, work from home unless cannot, mandatory not requested curfew at night from 9 p.m. until 4 a.m. Restaurants takeaway food only, and until 8 p.m. Convenience stores (7/11, Family Mart etc) must close 8 p.m. until 4 a.m. Maximum gathering of 5 people only, and only 1 person at home drinking alcohol.
Just fooking do it!
In all sincerity the way things are going with restrictions, you should be on your way already, unless you like being stuck in a cesspool by the sea.
Blag it with your vaccine certificates if you happen to get stopped at a laxidaisly supposed checkpoint.
Worst case scenario, bung the BIB a 1000 baht note in your passport. Although it probably wont come to that.
I know nothing would stop me from getting home to my family.
All the best .
CCC
Shalom
Klondyke, I think it is always fair to have a healthy scepticism about the data and I guess that the wise folk at the World Bank probably check them a little.
That said, I'm not sure what your question is. Is it that one number is too high or one too low? What do you know that makes you believe the World Bank has it wrong?
Regardless of the margins for error, any sources you look at will tell you that the UK has about three times the medical professional resouces that Thailand has, for a similar population. My point, or maybe it is a question, was: Despite their resources, the UK has suffered many Covid-related deaths. What will stop Thailand from reaching or exceeding that total?
I just see things getting a lot worse here because I can't see how their response is making them better. If Covid problems continue to mushroom then we need to think about social unrest and the local AZ production being exported and whether the government would ban exports, as India did. Bearing in mind all the implications of that.
Well, surely exports won't be banned by the government.
Thai king’s firm at heart of AstraZeneca’s Asia supply saga | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis
Seems unlikely, bearing in mind all the implications.
So, the alternative plan is ...?
Simple folk here in Isan. They want vaccine, they cannot get any, they don't want to get sick and die. I hear people locally blaming people for this situation. Saying things you'd never have heard a couple of years ago.
Shutree, beside my scepticism about any statistics, just by a rough view I hardly can believe such difference in those figures 8.1 - 2.8/1000.
Firstly, considering the high criticism of UK health system.
Secondly, how these figures were collected, there or there, and under what criteria? Who is considered as a nurse? There are so many health personnels, how are they classified in that country?
Having quite a long time experience in different levels of Thai offices and the Thai life anyway, many times being surprised how things are classified, reported, managed. And that none of the higher position people is concerned about the correctness of the outcome - they have much more "important" matters to worry about than a summary of figures collected around the country.
There has not been 'high criticism' of the UK NHS.
On the contrary - it has been lauded to the skies by the vast majority, and is highly valued by UK citizens for doing the best job possible in very trying circumstances.
Being a country that has freedom of speech, there has also been a small number of critics.
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