Thread: Thailand's response to Covid

[QUOTE=cyrille;4285766]Still, loytoy doesn't know anyone who has it.

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Where have I claimed that I don't know anyone who has had it?

I have posted that I don't know anyone who has died from it!

Originally Posted by cyrille

I'll be good with my post-QT paperwork.

But the way it's going there might be no inter-provincial travel at all by next week.

That's actually what they should do, of course.

Posted this yesterday down the alley

Well that was a breeze. Only one checkpoint and if you didn’t have a BKK tag they’ll wave you right through.

Maybe soon (Thai Government),……….from discourage to prohibit (traveling to different provinces)

Excuse Cyrille, hes going stir crazy in ASQ.

We're here for you Sybs, sharing is caring.

We can get through this together

Originally Posted by Klondyke

But what I do not believe - roughly seen:
The UK has about 8.1 nurses and midwives per 1,000 of the population. Thailand has about 2.8. (World Bank data from 2018).

Klongdick vs World Data Bank


Hard to know who to believe.

It certainly seems likely that proof of either vaccination or negative test (possibly both) is going to be required for travel or social activities nationwide.

M'Sahib was out shopping yesterday and came across a testing place not far from us. They were doing Rapid Antigen tests for 450 baht, which weren't exactly rapid as she tested in the morning and she got the result in the evening. They could also do the full blown PCR tests, though she didn't ask the cost of them.





They have 4 or 5 lab/clinics scattered around Phuket. Anyway, this evening they emailed her the certificate.

Good info, PAG.

Originally Posted by Klondyke
But what I do not believe - roughly seen:
The UK has about 8.1 nurses and midwives per 1,000 of the population. Thailand has about 2.8. (World Bank data from 2018).

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

Klongdick vs World Data Bank

Hard to know who to believe.

You have to be really very naive if you believe the data a Thai agency gave to the World Bank (and what the World Bank made use of it).

BTW, never heard of the problem the UK lack of nurses? Same as in all European countries. If not enough nurses from Asia (many also from Tibet), how the health system would function...

Originally Posted by PAG

They have 4 or 5 lab/clinics scattered around Phuket

Thanks PAG. Unfortunately us Lao speaking peons are on the bottom of the list of the General's things to do list.

Originally Posted by Norton

Thanks PAG. Unfortunately us Lao speaking peons are on the bottom of the list of the General's things to do list.

I believe that home antigen test kits will be available for purchase fairly soon, though price unknown.

COVID home-testing kits approved

However, a negative home test doesn't provide proof to enable travel, you have to have a certificate from a recognised authority for that, only that you should get yourself to hospital (and presumably properly tested there).

Results from COVID rapid antigen home test kits not accepted for travel

Looks like a hard lockdown coming in many areas. Starting 20th this month. No outside home unless an emergency it seems.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Looks like a hard lockdown coming in many areas. Starting 20th this month. No outside home unless an emergency it seems.

The redefining of provinces:

As COVID-19 infections increase relentlessly in most of Thailand’s provinces, the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) has added Ayutthaya, Chachoengsao and Chon Buri provinces to the “maximum controlled and restricted” or “Dark Red” zones.

The number of provinces classified as “maximum controlled”, or “Red” zones has increased to 53, leaving only 10 provinces classified as “controlled”, or “Orange” zones and Phuket as the only province classified as an “under close watch” area.

The remapping of Thailand into these zones, in accordance with the COVID-19 pandemic situation, was published in the Royal Gazette today (Sunday) and will become effective on Tuesday.

The “maximum controlled and restricted zones” now include Bangkok, Chachoengsao, Chon Buri, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Narathiwat, Pathum Thani, Pattani, Ayutthaya, Yala, Songkhla, Samut Prakan and Samut Sakhon.

“Maximum controlled” zones now include Krabi, Kanchanaburi, Kalasin, Kamphaeng Phet, Khon Kaen, Chanthaburi, Chainat, Chaiyaphum, Chiang Rai, Chiang Mai, Trang, Trat, Tak, Nakhon Nayok, Nakhon Ratchasima, Nakhon Si Thammarat, Nakhon Sawan, Buri Ram, Prachuap Khiri Khan, Prachin Buri, Phatthalung, Phichit, Phitsanuloke, Phetchaburi, Phetchabun, Maha Sarakham, Yasothon, Roi-et, Ranong, Ratchaburi, Lop Buri, Lampang, Lamphun, Loei, Si Sa Ket, Sakhon Nakhon, Satun, Samut Songkhram, Sa Kaeo, Saraburi, Sing Buri, Sukhothai, Suphan Buri, Surin, Nong Khai, Nong Bua Lamphu, Ang Thong, Udon Thani, Uthai Thani, Uttradit, Ubon Ratchathani and Amnat Charoen.

The 10 provinces classified as “controlled areas” are Chumpon, Nakhon Phanom, Nan, Bung Karn, Phang-nga, Phrae, Phayao, Muk Dahan, Mae Hong Son and Surat Thani.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/ccsa-remaps-deep-red-red-orange-and-green-areas-as-covid-19-pandemic-situation-worsens/

^ yeah, but need to see what will be allowed and not. Home food deliveries (staples and cooked)? Will 7-11 be open?

Originally Posted by nidhogg

^ yeah, but need to see what will be allowed and not. Home food deliveries (staples and cooked)? Will 7-11 be open?

Agree, not very forthcoming about what the definitive restrictions are. As I understand it though, for the highest (Maximum Controlled and Restricted) provinces i.e. Bangkok etc, work from home unless cannot, mandatory not requested curfew at night from 9 p.m. until 4 a.m. Restaurants takeaway food only, and until 8 p.m. Convenience stores (7/11, Family Mart etc) must close 8 p.m. until 4 a.m. Maximum gathering of 5 people only, and only 1 person at home drinking alcohol.

Originally Posted by PAG

Agree, not very forthcoming about what the definitive restrictions are. As I understand it though, for the highest (Maximum Controlled and Restricted) provinces i.e. Bangkok etc, work from home unless cannot, mandatory not requested curfew at night from 9 p.m. until 4 a.m. Restaurants takeaway food only, and until 8 p.m. Convenience stores (7/11, Family Mart etc) must close 8 p.m. until 4 a.m. Maximum gathering of 5 people only, and only 1 person at home drinking alcohol.

Agreed that is now. As said, I heard they may be tightening further.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Agreed that is now. As said, I heard they may be tightening further.

Indeed, particularly in light of Prayuth's utterances on Friday about the need for further measures, then followed by consecutive record numbers on new cases/deaths yesterday and today.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

You have to be really very naive if you believe the data a Thai agency gave to the World Bank (and what the World Bank made use of it).

Klondyke, I think it is always fair to have a healthy scepticism about the data and I guess that the wise folk at the World Bank probably check them a little.

That said, I'm not sure what your question is. Is it that one number is too high or one too low? What do you know that makes you believe the World Bank has it wrong?

Regardless of the margins for error, any sources you look at will tell you that the UK has about three times the medical professional resouces that Thailand has, for a similar population. My point, or maybe it is a question, was: Despite their resources, the UK has suffered many Covid-related deaths. What will stop Thailand from reaching or exceeding that total?

I just see things getting a lot worse here because I can't see how their response is making them better. If Covid problems continue to mushroom then we need to think about social unrest and the local AZ production being exported and whether the government would ban exports, as India did. Bearing in mind all the implications of that.

Originally Posted by Shutree

I just see things getting a lot worse here because I can't see how their response is making them better. If Covid problems continue to mushroom then we need to think about social unrest and the local AZ production being exported and whether the government would ban exports, as India did. Bearing in mind all the implications of that.

Well, surely exports won't be banned by the government.

Thai king’s firm at heart of AstraZeneca’s Asia supply saga | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis

Originally Posted by cyrille

Well, surely exports won't be banned by the government.

Thai king’s firm at heart of AstraZeneca’s Asia supply saga | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis

Seems unlikely, bearing in mind all the implications.

So, the alternative plan is ...?

Simple folk here in Isan. They want vaccine, they cannot get any, they don't want to get sick and die. I hear people locally blaming people for this situation. Saying things you'd never have heard a couple of years ago.

Originally Posted by Shutree

So, the alternative plan is ...?

Well hopefully somebody doing the right thing.

Originally Posted by Shutree

Klondyke, I think it is always fair to have a healthy scepticism about the data and I guess that the wise folk at the World Bank probably check them a little.

Shutree, beside my scepticism about any statistics, just by a rough view I hardly can believe such difference in those figures 8.1 - 2.8/1000.

Firstly, considering the high criticism of UK health system.
Secondly, how these figures were collected, there or there, and under what criteria? Who is considered as a nurse? There are so many health personnels, how are they classified in that country?

Having quite a long time experience in different levels of Thai offices and the Thai life anyway, many times being surprised how things are classified, reported, managed. And that none of the higher position people is concerned about the correctness of the outcome - they have much more "important" matters to worry about than a summary of figures collected around the country.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Firstly, considering the high criticism of UK health system...

There has not been 'high criticism' of the UK NHS.

On the contrary - it has been lauded to the skies by the vast majority, and is highly valued by UK citizens for doing the best job possible in very trying circumstances.

Being a country that has freedom of speech, there has also been a small number of critics.