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    Saw that Cy and can still book flight on AirAsia but still will check what's up at airport. Only 20km away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    Mate flew into SF from BKK. Got the J&J vaccine in the airport via walk-in.

    The trouble is getting back
    Exactly where I am off to. And yes, getting back is a big prob. Especially as things get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I wonder if anyone has any thoughts on whether this could become impossible the way things are going?
    Thailand is currently (since 18 July) on the basic risk area list for Germany, I imagine same for other EU countries. If it stays in the same category and you have proof of vaccination then all should be okay. I doubt the international flights will be stopped or be available for citizens and residents only just yet.

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    Sounds like an usual day in european government healthcare system

    Maybe back to US (if you have insurance) and try figure loopholes to allow you to return asap?

    You're not good to your lady if you are dead with covid imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Thailand is currently (since 18 July) on the basic risk area list for Germany, I imagine same for other EU countries. If it stays in the same category and you have proof of vaccination then all should be okay. I doubt the international flights will be stopped or be available for citizens and residents only just yet.
    A bit silly since Germany allows every poor and beggar from the EU to enter who are about 1000x more probable virus carriers...

    In EU you can buy proof of vaccination or rabies or blindless having it or not in any east european airport. But it may sting you over 30 quid

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    In EU you can buy proof of vaccination or rabies or blindless having it or not in any east european airport. But it may sting you over 30 quid
    Clearly you have no idea how the proof of vaccination works within the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Clearly you have no idea how the proof of vaccination works within the EU.
    The problem is, I know

    Yes - countries like Germany, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, Denmark do it by the book. Same countries actually treat their people.

    East and south europeans are misusing this trust people like you put on Europe. It's not your fault, you just drank the wrong euro kool-aid.

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    More info on flights:

    Thailand News Articles, Breaking Stories & Headlines | Thaiger

    August flight plans: Bangkok Airways, Nok Air, Thai Lion


    With lockdowns, sealed provinces, travel restrictions and ever-changing updates due to the continuously growing Covid-19 infections around the country, struggling airlines are scrambling to keep up. AirAsia was the first earlier this month to cancel all domestic flights, and other local airlines quickly followed suit. Yesterday Bangkok Airways cut nearly all of their domestic flights, extending their flight suspension until August 11. Now other airlines who cancelled flights until the end of July are announcing their updated plans as August begins.


    Bangkok Airways had said they would still operate their flights that are connected to the Phuket Sandbox and Samui Plus reopening programs but were unsure about flights between Phuket and Samui. Today they announced the cancellation of that route, going into effect on August 3 to coincide with the province sealing its border to domestic travellers. The airline did announce again today that the Singapore to Koh Samui flight will still resume operation now, despite the Covid-19 outbreaks over the last several days.



    The Phuket to Samui flights were the largest feeder of tourists into the Samui Plus scheme which was launched on July 15, after Phuket Sandboxers headed to the Gulf island after doing their first 14 days on Phuket. The cancellation of the flights will be a major blow to Samui’s tourist re-opening.


    Nok Air has extended its flight cancellations until the end of August. At the same time, they have arranged flights between Pattaya’s U-Tapao airport and Phuket leading up to the sealing of Phuket. They added extra flights to total 3 flights for the next 3 days and will update their flight schedules following government restrictions during Phuket’s sealing period. The cancelled flights offer options to refund or reschedule flights or to reroute the flight the U-Tapao flights, or retain a flight credit until March of next year.


    Thai Lion extended their flight cancellations until August 15, announcing flexible options for ticketed passengers whose flights have been cancelled. They are offering 1 free flight change or to extend the ticket value to the end of the year so passengers could maintain a credit for travel up until December 31.


    With the changing rules and restrictions coming from the government, expect more updates in the coming days, weeks, and months.

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    It looks like it's going to be a long, painful road to herd immunity for Thailand:



    40,000 cases a day could happen by September, says projection | Thaiger


    40,000 cases a day could happen by September, says projection




    Earlier this month, research by a professor from Mahidol University said worst-case scenario, Thailand could see 32,000 cases a day in a couple of months’ time. Now, according to a projection from the Ministry of Public Health, Thailand could see over 40,000 cases and 500 deaths per day if restrictions are not stringently followed/enforced and all inhabitants give their full cooperation.


    The projection says the 40,000 cases could be seen by September. The prodigious figure comes from a “Susceptible Exposed Infected Recovery compartmental mathematical model”.



    Dr Rungruang Kitpati, who is the advisor and spokesperson for the Ministry, referenced the model and said the current spike in infections and fatalities will only abate if everyone provides their total cooperation and measures are strictly enforced. However, the doctor cautions that it will take more than 2 to 4 weeks for the cases/death toll to slow down.
    The doctor adds that deaths can be avoided and fewer people will become infected if strict measures are instituted and strictly enforced, in conjunction with sped-up Covid screening and mass vaccinations.


    Dr Rungruang says the country needs to be especially careful now that other countries are also reporting Covid surges. Dr Rungruang says 61.67% of the general population of Bangkok has already been vaccinated, and 70% of the elderly population has been vaccinated. The doctor did not state whether those estimates meant the people were fully vaccinated or had just received 1 dose.


    Thailand reported 18,912 new infections today. This week, it was reported that the border between Myanmar and Thailand along Kanchanaburi is closing; Koh Samui’s reopening plans were thrown into question as its cases rise; domestic travel to Phuket has been all but squashed; Cambodia announced it is planning to lockdown 8 provinces that border Thailand; and sleeper trains in Bangkok are set to become Covid isolation centres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    The problem is, I know

    Yes - countries like Germany, Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, Denmark do it by the book. Same countries actually treat their people.

    East and south europeans are misusing this trust people like you put on Europe. It's not your fault, you just drank the wrong euro kool-aid.
    As I thought, you don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel View Post
    Dr Rungruang says 61.67% of the general population of Bangkok has already been vaccinated

    A strong contrast with international news agencies stating less than 20% in Thai have been vaccinated. So, should I trust mil-itar4y junta or western news agencies. So hard...

    61% figure is a total fake. Compare that with really advanced rich countries who have efficient health care systems like the UK, Finland, Sweden, Germany who report real statistics.

    This is like 99.8% voted for communism. Lol

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    ^ It may be a bit difficult for you to grasp but one of the figures is for Bangkok only and the other one is for whole Thailand..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    ^ It may be a bit difficult for you to grasp but one of the figures is for Bangkok only and the other one is for whole Thailand..
    Makes no difference to what I said

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC101 View Post
    A strong contrast with international news agencies stating less than 20% in Thai have been vaccinated.
    Yep, as lom says, you're comparing apples and oranges.

    Though, agree with you that that number is likely not accurate, not to mention misleading.

    "61.67% of the general population of Bangkok has already been vaccinated" probably means "have received at least one dose".

    And the one dose is likely Astrazenaca — with one dose not offering much protection against the delta variant, apparently.

    Not to mention the low efficacy of the Chinese vaccines.

    So, the statement doesn't mean much, all things considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Saw that Cy and can still book flight on AirAsia but still will check what's up at airport. Only 20km away.
    Note that an overwhelming percentage of flights actually taking off and landing are Nok Air, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Found out yesterday there are only 2 places you can get tested in Roi Et province. Both the provincial government hospitals. Naturally as with the vaccine there are not enough test kits so, you sign up to get in a queue and wait until you are informed of appointment date. Only conclusion any thinking person could come to is the "official" number of cases isn't even close to the actual.
    And most probably double the numbers, being reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    You won't get anywhere near correct numbers infected if you have to pay for the test or only include those infected.

    This is bad
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    So it's plan B. Off to the US of A with the possibilty of a very long stay sans my lady.
    What to say

    I feel for you.

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    I've been told that Nok is accepting payment for flights they know won't depart. They don't return the cash but give 9 months to rebook. Dodgy as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Note that an overwhelming percentage of flights actually taking off and landing are Nok Air, though.
    Being a super Hiso place Roi Et mi me Loso Nok Air. Only the posh Air Asia.

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    It is an absolute crime what is happening.
    That really sucks. The sheer incompetence is one thing. The blatant lies take it to a whole new nadir.

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    ^^ The scenario Clark describes happened to me, but with airasia. Nok Air was very good, and as you can see from the link I put up, journeys are being completed as scheduled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark77 View Post
    I've been told that Nok is accepting payment for flights they know won't depart.
    Every single flight departing and arriving at Don Muang today is Nok Air.

    Nok Air flights to Chiang Mai are now leaving from U-Tapao.

    Flight Status – Departures – Don Mueang Airport Guide

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    I live 4 kilometers due west of DM. There are not many airplanes departing at all and I am not sure your information is correct. Here is Nok Air's actual site and what they have going today. It does not match up with your post.

    https://www.nokair.com/flight/status

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    That link doesn't show total flights from Don Muang today.

    I somehow doubt you searched for them one by one.

    I think the opposite is true - they have quite a few flights taking off, but don't want to be too brazen about it.

    That list is accurate as far as I can know, and updated pretty punctually.

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    Update: I see what you mean now. Many flights show up as 'cancelled'.

    Well, I guess the list will show that later in the day if true.

    Last week I found that when my flight was fully booked (max 50% capacity) it just disappeared from that Nok Air site completely, rather than showing as 'Sold Out'.

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